| 00:00:37 | <nribeka> great. probably i need to get overview of the hierarchy and interaction between classes from him |
| 00:00:51 | <nribeka> or from you sgrannis? :D |
| 00:02:19 | <sgrannis> james may be the best resource |
| 00:02:26 | <sgrannis> i've sent you the test cases |
| 00:04:43 | <nribeka> got it |
| 00:04:48 | <nribeka> extracting it now |
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| 00:08:22 | <nribeka> the readme file explain about the expected results? |
| 00:10:15 | <r0bby> okay soc'ers identify yourselves! |
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| 00:13:46 | <nribeka> sgrannis: RecMatch is the main app right? |
| 00:14:02 | <nribeka> hi rob :D |
| 00:14:55 | <upul> what time is it there r0bby |
| 00:15:49 | <nribeka> 1.15 :P |
| 00:16:11 | <r0bby> 115am |
| 00:16:34 | <upul> so you are all in east of us? |
| 00:17:10 | <nribeka> yeah, i'm in pittsburgh |
| 00:17:16 | <r0bby> well paul and burke are in indiana |
| 00:17:32 | <nribeka> robby is in NY, right? |
| 00:18:09 | <r0bby> si. |
| 00:18:23 | <r0bby> and I have a cough that is annoying as hell |
| 00:18:29 | <upul> most are going to sleep when i log in ;) |
| 00:18:39 | <r0bby> upul: where are you? |
| 00:18:44 | <upul> sri lanka |
| 00:18:47 | <sgrannis_away_> RecMatch GUI generates that configuration file by allowing the user to specify fields and analyzing the data content of the dat sources to be matched |
| 00:18:47 | <r0bby> go and register on the private wiki! |
| 00:19:10 | <upul> it at the bottom of india, but it is not india |
| 00:19:28 | <r0bby> I'm writing a module which will generate forms via groovy scripts -- and DEFINITELY later on via a domain specific language |
| 00:19:36 | <r0bby> the DSL is gonna be difficult |
| 00:19:45 | <r0bby> but fun nonetheless |
| 00:19:51 | <r0bby> :D |
| 00:20:10 | <upul> that's nice |
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| 00:20:41 | <upul> you've been in openmrs for more than year? |
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| 00:23:07 | <nribeka> sgrannis: RecMatch is the gui i assumed? |
| 00:23:14 | <sgrannis_away_> yes |
| 00:25:17 | <nribeka> how do i run test 5? |
| 00:25:19 | <maveriick> upul, You can find me when u log in... |
| 00:25:25 | <maveriick> we are close in timezone.... |
| 00:26:09 | <maveriick> But one thing to admit the openMRS interns come from a divers area - USA, UK, Norway, Rwanda, Bangladesh, Srilanka and India :) |
| 00:26:44 | <upul> yes |
| 00:27:01 | <maveriick> I wonder, if we can arrange a get together in a place which is geographically equally close to all these countries :-D |
| 00:27:06 | <nribeka> sgrannis: i get ArrayIndexOutOfBound :P |
| 00:27:26 | <upul> may be antactica |
| 00:28:19 | <r0bby> i plan on staying with openmrs :) |
| 00:28:28 | <r0bby> I just had to find a niche to reel me in :) |
| 00:29:00 | <upul> yes i like it, though i've been only here a few weeks |
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| 00:31:00 | <sgrannis_away_> g'night all... |
| 00:31:25 | <upul> good night |
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| 00:34:36 | <nribeka> good night sgrannis_away_ |
| 00:36:40 | <r0bby> people would have to pay :) |
| 00:39:01 | <r0bby> upul: I've been here for a while yeh |
| 00:45:48 | <upul> you never sleep? ;) |
| 00:45:58 | <upul> or am i talking to a bot |
| 00:50:05 | <nribeka> it's r0bby's supybot |
| 00:57:05 | <r0bby> it's me |
| 00:57:06 | <r0bby> lol |
| 00:57:11 | <r0bby> I sleep |
| 00:57:18 | <r0bby> matter of fact im exausted |
| 00:57:27 | <r0bby> I napped earlier |
| 00:57:35 | <r0bby> I laid down @ i think 6 to 8 |
| 00:57:47 | <r0bby> so 2 hrs or so |
| 00:57:48 | <r0bby> :x |
| 01:33:14 | <nribeka> off to bed now. see you guys tomorrow. |
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| 09:04:59 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4001]: formentry: Adding option for extra information for concepts being filled ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4001> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4000]: Catching Throwable on scheduled tasks startup to prevent complete halt of ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4000> |
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| 09:15:23 | <jmiranda> bwolfe, is there any way to automatically identify my nickname with nickserv when i start a new session (within xchat)? |
| 09:15:33 | <jmiranda> i can't find a preference for that |
| 09:15:43 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 09:16:01 | <bwolfe> its in the Network List box |
| 09:16:10 | <bwolfe> chose Freenode, then "edit" |
| 09:16:20 | <bwolfe> enter your nickserv password there and click save |
| 09:16:27 | <jmiranda> got it |
| 09:16:27 | <jmiranda> thanks |
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| 10:07:25 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4002]: helloworldmodule: Fixing package-module target in build.xml <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4002> |
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| 11:11:47 | <pearlbear> hmmm, I think I may have a good new organizational structure for the developer docs |
| 11:14:53 | <pearlbear> good time for a lunch break. :-) |
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| 11:37:47 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #429 (enhancement closed): Add parameter support to the BIRT generate report use case <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/429#comment:2> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #422 (defect closed): Deploying BIRT Report Module causes NoSuchMethodException in EngineConfig.getLogger() <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/422#comment:3> |
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| 12:10:51 | <bwolfe> pearlbear: looking forward to hearing what that structure is. :-) |
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| 12:18:54 | <pearlbear> bwolfe: basically, divide it into four sections: getting started, how to, detailed documentation (where the encyclopedic stuff resides) and Developers info (stuff like projects, conference calls, code of conduct, etc.) |
| 12:19:25 | <pearlbear> I'll put up a diagram today. I also want to do a draft of what the new developer doc home page might look like |
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| 12:20:34 | <bwolfe> pearlbear: sounds pretty good |
| 12:28:24 | <upul> hi Ben |
| 12:29:40 | <bwolfe> hey upul |
| 12:30:29 | <upul> i'll go through the code and see what's in there these days |
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| 12:36:09 | <bwolfe> ok |
| 12:36:25 | <bwolfe> upul: there have a been only a few commits since your last patch. :-p |
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| 12:39:46 | <upul> :-) I have only gone around the code. didn't touch any of those things in the data model |
| 12:47:02 | <nribeka> why am i always made typo when i write emails :( |
| 12:47:44 | <nribeka> i want to write: I think Shaun already have my number |
| 12:47:53 | <nribeka> but i write: I think Shaun already my number |
| 12:48:07 | <nribeka> arrgghh ... |
| 12:48:29 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 12:48:49 | <bwolfe> mshanks' typing speed fetish has rubbed off on you :-p |
| 12:49:15 | <nribeka> haha ... maybe :P |
| 12:50:06 | <mshanks> hehe |
| 12:50:09 | <mshanks> I do love to type |
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| 12:50:30 | <mshanks> bwolfe |
| 12:50:34 | <nribeka> i only got to 50ish wpm :P |
| 12:50:49 | <mshanks> Can I fill out a form for freenode so we can have openmrs cloak hosts on irc? :D |
| 12:51:28 | <bwolfe> mshanks: my highest wpm was 89...it was frustrating not being able to crack the high scores. :-/ |
| 12:51:34 | <mshanks> hehe |
| 12:51:35 | <bwolfe> mshanks: if you first explain what they are |
| 12:51:42 | <mshanks> bwolfe; do a /whois on some one |
| 12:51:51 | <mshanks> n=napi@cpc3-nott5-0-0-cust637.nott.cable.ntl.com |
| 12:51:56 | <bwolfe> right, ok |
| 12:52:04 | <mshanks> could be n=napi@intern/openmrs |
| 12:52:06 | <mshanks> for example |
| 12:52:27 | <mshanks> a la i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche |
| 12:52:36 | <bwolfe> so after napi is identified it would change to that...or only if napi is logged in from that host ? |
| 12:53:01 | <mshanks> no it's done on your nickserv account |
| 12:53:05 | <mshanks> nothign to do with the host you log on with |
| 12:53:07 | <mshanks> observe |
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| 12:53:20 | <bwolfe> right, so after being identified to nickserv its changed |
| 12:53:23 | <napi> do a /whois on me |
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| 12:53:26 | <bwolfe> I always wondered how they did that |
| 12:53:34 | <napi> [18:53] -NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized |
| 12:53:34 | <napi> - |
| 12:53:34 | <napi> [18:53] * services. sets mode: +e |
| 12:53:34 | <napi> - |
| 12:53:34 | <napi> [18:53] -kubrick.freenode.net- NickServ set your hostname to "unaffiliated/napi" |
| 12:53:34 | <bwolfe> cool |
| 12:53:59 | <bwolfe> what was the line you typed right before that napi ? ;-) |
| 12:54:03 | <napi> umm |
| 12:54:06 | <napi> i dunno i forget :p |
| 12:54:10 | <bwolfe> hehe |
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| 12:54:41 | <bwolfe> yeah, sure, fill one out. docpaul has taken care of all things irc/freenode for us so far, so things might go through him |
| 12:54:45 | <mshanks> now host is back to stupid ntl one |
| 12:55:29 | <mshanks> Well who ever fills out the form becomes the point of contact for freenode on the unlikely event they have any questions, but can easily pass over contact details for paul after registering it |
| 12:55:43 | <mshanks> don't really mind. just thought it would be quite cool for gsoc :) |
| 12:56:00 | <bwolfe> ah, well either use paul's info to fill it out, or tell paul to do it |
| 12:56:04 | <bwolfe> (next time he's on) |
| 12:56:10 | <mshanks> cool will do |
| 12:56:19 | <bwolfe> paul already has #openmrs registered with freenode |
| 12:56:28 | <mshanks> aye |
| 12:56:32 | <bwolfe> so they do know about him |
| 12:56:33 | <bwolfe> heh |
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| 13:08:21 | <mshanks> 2 days of dissertation left! |
| 13:08:29 | <mshanks> then my java coursework, then 2 exams and I finish! woooo |
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| 13:16:28 | <pearlbear> bwolfe: http://openmrs.org/wiki/NewMap |
| 13:16:49 | <pearlbear> not complete, but the basics are there |
| 13:16:53 | <bwolfe> interesting name for a wiki page :-p |
| 13:17:13 | <pearlbear> er, yeah |
| 13:17:16 | <pearlbear> :-) |
| 13:18:10 | <bwolfe> cool |
| 13:18:38 | <bwolfe> so you fit all/most current developer wiki pages into those categories ? |
| 13:18:54 | <pearlbear> exactly |
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| 13:19:04 | <bwolfe> hmm |
| 13:19:06 | <bwolfe> hmm |
| 13:19:38 | <pearlbear> it's going to take some time to figure out exactly what might go where, but it should all fit. |
| 13:20:03 | <bwolfe> we could modify our header to have a main tab of "developers" (or just use "contribute" I suppose) and then have a subheading that appears with those 4 options. then, when throughout the wiki when in developer docs you can see where you are in the hierarchy |
| 13:20:16 | <bwolfe> err hierarchy should have air quotes around it |
| 13:20:48 | <bwolfe> pearlbear: you have trac on there twice you know... |
| 13:21:27 | <pearlbear> bwolfe: I do know |
| 13:21:56 | <pearlbear> there are somethings you should be able to get to via different paths |
| 13:22:07 | <pearlbear> s/somethings/some things/ |
| 13:31:16 | <pearlbear> bwolfe: that mod of the header would be great |
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| 13:42:03 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #688 (task closed): Add extension points to newPatientForm <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/688#comment:3> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4005]: Adding extension points to newPatientForm - #688 Author: rmalla <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4005> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4004]: -- atd * changed the way unique providers are returned by the provider ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4004> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4003]: formentry: Fixing option for extra information for concepts being filled ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4003> |
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| 14:44:27 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #697 (enhancement created): Move ReportRenderer.getLinkUrl() method to web layer <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/697> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4006]: Here's my untested API refactoring of ConceptService... I have yet to ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4006> |
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| 14:56:44 | <bwolfe> hello andrei6200 |
| 14:56:48 | <bwolfe> welcome |
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| 15:14:16 | <r0bby> :P |
| 15:14:38 | <r0bby> bwolfe: by the way i was hoping you didn't notice ##java :< |
| 15:14:40 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #698 ( created): LazyInitializationException occurs when accessing the task properties within Task.initialize() method <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/698> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #697 (enhancement closed): Move ReportRenderer.getLinkUrl() method to web layer <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/697> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4007]: report_api_refactoring: Moved ReportRenderer.getLinkUrl() method to web ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4007> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4006]: api-refactoring: Here's my untested API refactoring of ConceptService. I ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4006> |
| 15:14:50 | <r0bby> :P |
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| 15:18:40 | <bwolfe> r0bby: haha, well, sit in there for only a little while and its easy to tell what their attitudes are |
| 15:19:02 | * r0bby is pleasant here |
| 15:20:17 | * r0bby is going to atlantic city tomorrow! ;) |
| 15:20:20 | <r0bby> er :) |
| 15:20:29 | <r0bby> still mildly feeling like crud |
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| 15:36:47 | <bwolfe> wheres your home base r0bby ? |
| 15:36:53 | <bwolfe> I thought you were in CA for some reason... |
| 15:38:36 | <r0bby> New Windsor, NY (60 mis north of NYC) |
| 15:39:05 | <r0bby> in fact as of right now i make frequent trips to new york presbyterian/columbia university medical center |
| 15:39:24 | <r0bby> they have an exit that goes right onto broadway |
| 15:39:27 | <r0bby> starbucks++ |
| 15:39:28 | <r0bby> :D |
| 15:40:57 | <r0bby> Is it bad that I have no idea how to get started with my project right now? |
| 15:41:41 | <r0bby> how do I get my blog onto the OpenMRS feed? |
| 15:41:42 | <r0bby> :x |
| 15:42:20 | <nribeka> sgrannis: when is the explanation as you said in your email will be given? |
| 15:42:25 | <nribeka> next week? |
| 15:42:28 | <nribeka> :D |
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| 15:44:43 | <bwolfe> r0bby: you have another few weeks to figure out what to do with your project |
| 15:44:45 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4008]: report_api_refactoring: Fixed lazy initialization exception that occurs ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4008> |
| 15:45:21 | <bwolfe> r0bby: whats the feed url for your blog ? |
| 15:45:36 | <bwolfe> I'll put it into feed.openmrs.org for you |
| 15:46:13 | <r0bby> do you want it filtered? |
| 15:46:25 | <r0bby> ie not get bombarded by every post i made? |
| 15:46:37 | <bwolfe> I will set it to filter on the openmrs tag |
| 15:46:40 | <bwolfe> on our side |
| 15:47:09 | <r0bby> http://feeds.feedburner.com/robbyoconnor |
| 15:47:28 | <r0bby> all the cool kids are using feedburner |
| 15:47:30 | <r0bby> lol |
| 15:48:17 | <bwolfe> ha |
| 15:48:18 | <bwolfe> ok |
| 15:49:05 | <r0bby> http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/robbyoconnor/~3/266866431/jerkbot-gets-groovy-makeover.html |
| 15:49:08 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1pOT> (at feeds.feedburner.com) |
| 15:49:12 | <r0bby> my first groovy experience :) |
| 15:49:19 | <r0bby> I was hooked :) |
| 15:49:55 | <r0bby> I used regexp to process the commands :D |
| 15:50:32 | <r0bby> it's a bot i wrote as an example -- i ripped the design from the ##java bot -- i was comfortable w/ it -- the design isn't the best but it works :) |
| 15:55:38 | <bwolfe> anyone else have their blog set up ? |
| 15:55:46 | <bwolfe> nribeka? TorLye? |
| 15:56:16 | <TorLye> yes, I have |
| 15:56:42 | <TorLye> http://tor-soc.blogspot.com/ |
| 15:57:27 | <nribeka> not yet. will set up a new one right away :P |
| 15:58:01 | <bwolfe> nribeka: a new one? you're not going to just use your current? |
| 15:58:14 | <bwolfe> we can filter out all content not tagged with "openmrs" |
| 15:58:38 | <nribeka> my old blog is kind a silly :P |
| 15:58:46 | <r0bby> mine is kinda dorky |
| 15:58:50 | <bwolfe> I see |
| 15:58:59 | <nribeka> just talking about unimportant stuff haha :D |
| 15:59:13 | <bwolfe> isn't that the definition of a blog? :-p |
| 15:59:14 | <r0bby> nribeka: I kept mine technical :x |
| 15:59:24 | <r0bby> blogs are useless |
| 15:59:42 | <nribeka> r0bby: mine is so so so un-technical |
| 15:59:49 | <r0bby> why I even have one? I don't know... but I've made a name for myself sorta. |
| 16:00:08 | <nribeka> my reader is not from IT background mostly haha :D |
| 16:00:47 | <r0bby> sadly, i have to watch what I say since uhm... it's aggregated via javablogs.com and groovyblogs.org (if i tag it as groovy or grails) |
| 16:01:26 | <nribeka> wow ... cule (burke's style) |
| 16:02:17 | <nribeka> you're blog is aggregated by many aggregator then r0bby? |
| 16:03:23 | <r0bby> just those two as far as I know |
| 16:04:06 | <r0bby> Linked here: http://tech.puredanger.com/java7#closures and a few other places |
| 16:06:00 | <nribeka> wow ... |
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| 16:06:22 | <nribeka> my old one is just linked by my classmates :P |
| 16:06:37 | <mshankstest> web client on the openmrs.org site works suprisingly well :p |
| 16:06:43 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 16:06:46 | <r0bby> a few were linked on http://www.dzone.com |
| 16:06:48 | <bwolfe> mshankstest: yep |
| 16:07:02 | <bwolfe> mshankstest: that was all burke's doing...he found and installed that |
| 16:07:04 | <r0bby> mainly all my closure examples |
| 16:07:40 | <bwolfe> it has some very cool implications as far as using it for an openmrs "help desk" of sorts (once we have enough users to warrant it of course) |
| 16:07:49 | <r0bby> I was looking through my javablogs feeds and saw it and was like NIIIIIIIIIICE |
| 16:07:54 | <mshanks> aye |
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| 16:08:41 | <nribeka> probably i will try write technical stuff as well |
| 16:09:52 | <nribeka> at one time i try to write about firefox plugins and i got so many comments and most of them ask: "what is a plugins?" |
| 16:11:43 | <r0bby> nribeka: summer of coder? |
| 16:11:43 | <bwolfe> haha |
| 16:12:20 | <nribeka> nope, my reader. |
| 16:12:38 | <nribeka> most of them have no technical knowledge :P |
| 16:12:54 | <nribeka> just an internet user haha :D |
| 16:13:39 | <nribeka> bwolfe: hardy heron tomorrow? |
| 16:13:54 | <bwolfe> nribeka: I got hardy heron last weekend |
| 16:14:41 | <r0bby> Im using it right now :) |
| 16:14:42 | <r0bby> :> |
| 16:14:51 | <r0bby> sop I have everything being released |
| 16:14:54 | <bwolfe> but yes, I think its supposed to out tomorrow |
| 16:15:03 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #698 (defect closed): LazyInitializationException occurs when accessing the task properties within Task.initialize() method <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/698> |
| 16:16:05 | <nribeka> i going to switch :P |
| 16:16:17 | <bwolfe> very nice |
| 16:16:21 | <nribeka> stop using winwoows wista ... |
| 16:16:29 | <bwolfe> very not nice |
| 16:16:41 | <nribeka> :P |
| 16:17:21 | <TorLye> hey, if you guys are using hardy, have you tried the new display configuration utility? |
| 16:17:41 | <bwolfe> have not |
| 16:17:51 | <bwolfe> r0bby did try I think though |
| 16:18:52 | <TorLye> the main thing preventing me from doing the full switchover until now is the fact that there has not been an easy way to configure external displays connected to TV-out/vga/dvi |
| 16:18:54 | <nribeka> stuck with wista because my advisor has some program that use .net based web services :P |
| 16:19:03 | <TorLye> so I have big hopes for hardy |
| 16:19:49 | <bwolfe> TorLye: I've been using vga out on my laptop to my external monitor since sept 07 |
| 16:20:00 | <bwolfe> I had to do some manual tweaks to the xorg conf file though |
| 16:20:41 | <TorLye> cool. the main problem seems to be when using displays with different resolutions/aspect ratios |
| 16:20:59 | <TorLye> and hot-plugging displays, obviously... this works seamlessly in windows |
| 16:21:17 | <r0bby> I did |
| 16:21:18 | <r0bby> it' |
| 16:21:26 | <r0bby> s annoying as hell to work with |
| 16:22:07 | <r0bby> Ubuntu tries to be easy -- MS tried that |
| 16:22:17 | <nribeka> need to grab a bite ... ttl guys :D |
| 16:22:25 | <r0bby> they're turning linux into windows for christs sakes |
| 16:22:54 | <bwolfe> TorLye: yeah, hot plugging is a problem...I dock my laptop, turn it on, and it uses the 1900x1200 display without a problem. I have to restart the laptop however, if I want to use its display. when I reboot, its 1400x1200 display works fine (by itself) |
| 16:23:07 | <bwolfe> I also was looking forward to that feature in hardy |
| 16:23:10 | <bwolfe> and haven't tried it out yet |
| 16:23:22 | <bwolfe> cya nribeka |
| 16:23:32 | <nribeka> cya bwolfe |
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| 16:23:41 | <bwolfe> r0bby: the only reason windows is popular is because its easy |
| 16:24:17 | <bwolfe> if making linux easy is what you define as "turning it into windows", then great! I'm all for it... |
| 16:24:27 | <bwolfe> things should be easy...things should "just work"... |
| 16:24:43 | <bmckown> it's because computers already ship with windows. It's because of contractual agreements with vendors. |
| 16:25:24 | <bwolfe> yeah, but that came after windows was "just easy" |
| 16:25:32 | <bwolfe> its proliferated now because of that, definitely |
| 16:26:15 | <bmckown> linux is great. oh, I should say gnu/linux |
| 16:26:25 | <bmckown> have you visited the gnu site lately? |
| 16:26:56 | <bmckown> http://www.gnu.org |
| 16:28:10 | <bwolfe> hehe |
| 16:28:32 | <bmckown> hey, I wasn't being serious. people *can* say just linux in this chat room, right? |
| 16:29:25 | <bwolfe> as long as stallman doesn't see you |
| 16:29:34 | <bmckown> definitely. |
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| 16:30:07 | <rstallman> its gnu/linux damnit!! |
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| 16:30:30 | <bwolfe> man! that guy is everywhere! |
| 16:31:02 | <bmckown> hey, that's pretty good. |
| 16:32:12 | <bmckown> Man. I cannot get the controller to save the object id when using spring bind. |
| 16:32:13 | <bmckown> ugh. |
| 16:34:36 | <bwolfe> whats the error ? |
| 16:34:40 | <bwolfe> or is it silent? |
| 16:34:46 | <bmckown> There .... It's silent. |
| 16:35:05 | <bmckown> Tried to copy everything *exactly* like ConceptDatatype. |
| 16:35:24 | <bmckown> Except that my hibernate method uses saveOrUpdate |
| 16:35:50 | <bmckown> instead of just the update call that is used in the ConceptDatatypeFormController |
| 16:36:23 | <r0bby> the GPL is viral as hell |
| 16:36:27 | <bmckown> it can save a change to a current ConceptComplexHandler, but cannot create a new one. |
| 16:36:42 | <r0bby> I found out why when i tried to integrate GPL code into a project which was New BSD |
| 16:36:45 | <bmckown> r0bby just went off and read the GPL a few minutes ago. |
| 16:36:55 | <r0bby> bmckown: no -- i know |
| 16:36:59 | <bmckown> just kidding :-) and teasing. |
| 16:37:26 | <bmckown> r0bby you are kind of fun to tease, actually. |
| 16:37:31 | <r0bby> I know |
| 16:37:46 | <r0bby> I take flak in every channel i'm in -- why not here too? |
| 16:37:55 | <r0bby> << easy target |
| 16:37:58 | <bmckown> poor guy. |
| 16:38:02 | <r0bby> shrug |
| 16:38:09 | <r0bby> I have thick skin |
| 16:38:17 | <bmckown> No. Just a lot of fun. You have a good personality. |
| 16:38:41 | <r0bby> I |
| 16:38:48 | <bmckown> U |
| 16:38:50 | <r0bby> m not ...nevermind i'll offend somebody! |
| 16:39:19 | <bmckown> I think you meant to say :-X |
| 16:39:37 | <bmckown> isn't that like irc for 'being quiet'? |
| 16:40:44 | <r0bby> http://www.groovyblogs.org/entries/jump?id=8247 |
| 16:40:47 | <r0bby> mmm |
| 16:41:06 | * r0bby grumbles |
| 16:41:51 | <r0bby> NIIICE |
| 16:42:08 | <r0bby> I like the first python example!!! closures++ |
| 16:46:46 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4009]: Fixed lazy initialization exception that occurs when accessing the task ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4009> |
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| 17:51:07 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #699 (enhancement created): Hide voided drugs on the patient dashboard regimen tab <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/699> |
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| 18:23:21 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #701 ( created): Add support for handling GET in Generate Report use case in BIRT Report Module <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/701> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #700 ( created): Add support for patient specific reports in BIRT Report Module <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/700> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4010]: reporttemplate: Moving renderer registration to the spring config file <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4010> |
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| 18:50:08 | <mshanks> r0bby just added you on facebook :) |
| 18:53:15 | <r0bby> how |
| 18:53:20 | <r0bby> d you find me :P{ |
| 18:53:28 | <r0bby> oh wait you know my full name |
| 18:53:34 | <r0bby> as does anybody :P |
| 18:53:58 | <nribeka> http://nyomanribeka.wordpress.com |
| 18:54:02 | <nribeka> haha ... :D |
| 18:54:53 | <mshanks> r0bby, and you joined the gsoc group on there |
| 18:54:53 | <mshanks> :p |
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| 19:04:36 | <r0bby> mshanks : diff nick? |
| 19:04:49 | <mshanks> ? |
| 19:04:54 | <r0bby> your nick |
| 19:04:57 | <mshanks> on here? |
| 19:05:00 | <r0bby> yes |
| 19:05:03 | <mshanks> yeah |
| 19:05:06 | <mshanks> didn't like napi |
| 19:05:19 | <mshanks> and my blog + project are all done under my real name, so figured I'd irc under this name too |
| 19:24:25 | * r0bby /me *IS* using his real name :) |
| 20:21:22 | <mshanks> you like my profile r0bby? :p |
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| 20:50:09 | <cancer> anyone out there??? |
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| 20:55:38 | <nribeka> i'm here |
| 20:55:44 | <nribeka> haha :D |
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| 21:00:52 | <machosry> is Daniel Kayiwa here??? |
| 21:01:47 | *** machosry is now known as cancer |
| 21:03:16 | <cancer> how to find my mentor ? :( |
| 21:08:18 | <nribeka> cancer: who is your mentor? |
| 21:08:43 | <r0bby> it's fine |
| 21:08:54 | <r0bby> cancer: who's your mentor? |
| 21:09:16 | <r0bby> cancer: i don't think he hangs on IRC |
| 21:09:29 | <r0bby> you don't need to start coding for a few weeks |
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| 21:14:43 | <docpaul_> dudes and dudettes |
| 21:14:52 | <cancer> hi docpaul |
| 21:14:53 | <docpaul_> yikes, we don't want cancer in our channel! |
| 21:14:57 | <docpaul_> :) |
| 21:15:03 | <cancer> hahaha |
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| 21:15:24 | <docpaul> trying to remember how I met you |
| 21:15:29 | <docpaul> i've talked to you before on here. |
| 21:15:33 | <docpaul> what's your real name? |
| 21:16:16 | <cancer> sri prasanna from india |
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| 21:16:29 | <cancer> i used to hang out a lot with this channel :) |
| 21:16:52 | <r0bby> sunbiz? |
| 21:17:03 | <nribeka> sunbiz? |
| 21:17:10 | <r0bby> his nick.. |
| 21:17:15 | <nribeka> hi docpaul ... |
| 21:17:16 | <cancer> docpaul so where can i find my mentor Daniel Kayiwa??? |
| 21:17:17 | <r0bby> I'm trying to connect the dots |
| 21:17:28 | <r0bby> hey docpaul |
| 21:17:29 | <r0bby> I |
| 21:17:31 | <cancer> whose nick name?? |
| 21:17:40 | <r0bby> yours |
| 21:17:56 | <cancer> noooooooooo... |
| 21:17:57 | <cancer> :) |
| 21:17:58 | <docpaul> hah |
| 21:18:05 | <cancer> always cancer or machosry |
| 21:18:19 | <docpaul> so, daniel lives in uganda |
| 21:18:21 | <cancer> long back someone made fun outta my nick name |
| 21:18:27 | <docpaul> and is one of the brightest developers i know |
| 21:18:30 | <docpaul> he's awesome! |
| 21:18:46 | <cancer> how can i reach him??? i searched for his email address but cud not find |
| 21:18:48 | <docpaul> want his email? |
| 21:18:57 | <cancer> oh then im lucky :) |
| 21:19:01 | <cancer> yep |
| 21:19:33 | <nribeka> kayiwadaniel[at]gmail[dot]com i pressumed? |
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| 21:20:10 | <nribeka> search in openmrs website |
| 21:20:10 | <nribeka> :P |
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| 21:20:22 | <docpaul> kayiwadaniel@gmail.com |
| 21:20:29 | <docpaul> sorry, wireless is acting funky tonight |
| 21:21:39 | <docpaul> did you get that? |
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| 21:23:04 | <machosry> yeah i got that docpaul |
| 21:23:06 | <machosry> thanks a lot |
| 21:23:08 | <docpaul> great |
| 21:23:32 | <machosry> so now im gonna mail my mentor :) |
| 21:23:43 | <docpaul> sweet... encourage him to use irc. :) |
| 21:23:54 | <docpaul> i've forgotten to talk with him about that |
| 21:23:55 | <machosry> hahaha... sure docpaul |
| 21:24:04 | <docpaul> we've met in person a few times, and i love the guy to death |
| 21:24:18 | <docpaul> he's the real deal... and someone that gives me great hope about africa |
| 21:24:22 | <machosry> is it??? |
| 21:24:25 | <machosry> thats cool |
| 21:24:36 | <docpaul> want to see a video by him? |
| 21:24:46 | <machosry> yeah sure |
| 21:25:20 | <docpaul> search google video for openmrs |
| 21:25:25 | <docpaul> he's one of them |
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| 21:39:35 | <mshanks> docpaul |
| 21:39:36 | <mshanks> http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml#groupcontact |
| 21:39:39 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1pRC> (at freenode.net) |
| 21:39:47 | <mshanks> sign up openmrs for it so I can have a cloaked host please :) |
| 21:40:08 | <docpaul> hmm |
| 21:40:12 | <docpaul> ok, i'll do it! |
| 21:40:15 | <mshanks> :D |
| 21:40:16 | <mshanks> yay |
| 21:40:38 | <prasanna> exit |
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| 21:41:47 | <docpaul> do you know of any approved contacts? |
| 21:42:05 | <mshanks> nah you don't need one |
| 21:42:23 | <mshanks> well, it's technically you :) |
| 21:42:35 | <mshanks> as you're the one approving yourself to be the contact person |
| 21:43:00 | <maveriick> mshanks, what actually a group is (on freenode)? |
| 21:43:23 | <mshanks> maveriick; just a sort of official recognition for a software organisation/distribution |
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| 21:44:31 | <prasanna> docpaul im somehow logged out now i cud not get my old nick name |
| 21:44:38 | <prasanna> im cancer docpaul :( |
| 21:44:40 | <prasanna> \ |
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| 21:45:13 | <prasanna> \nick cancer |
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| 21:45:24 | <cancer> gotcha docpaul |
| 21:45:32 | <docpaul> i did it |
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| 21:45:43 | <nribeka> yay my mentor is here ... |
| 21:46:06 | <docpaul> shaun? |
| 21:46:07 | <sgrannis> howdy ;) |
| 21:46:11 | <cancer> docpaul cud u send me the link for daniel's video link |
| 21:46:11 | <docpaul> :) |
| 21:46:26 | <cancer> wat abt my mentor :(( |
| 21:46:31 | <docpaul> do a google video search for openmrs |
| 21:46:33 | <maveriick> mshanks, will that bring any specific benefit or just recognition? |
| 21:46:38 | <cancer> oh wait |
| 21:46:47 | <sgrannis> nribeka: the document is almost done. |
| 21:46:48 | <nribeka> yupz ... |
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| 21:47:01 | <docpaul> hello upul... congratulation! |
| 21:47:02 | <docpaul> s! |
| 21:47:05 | <nribeka> sgrannis: thank you |
| 21:47:18 | <docpaul> saw your blog, excited that you're joining the community |
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| 21:47:22 | <upul> docpaul: thank you |
| 21:47:24 | <docpaul> same goes for all of you, for that matter |
| 21:47:32 | <docpaul> you've got a great mentor in ben |
| 21:47:49 | <nribeka> docpaul: thank you |
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| 21:48:17 | <upul> yes, he's great |
| 21:48:20 | <docpaul> i have a hunch that you guys are going to do very well this year |
| 21:48:52 | <sgrannis> nribeka: ArrayOutOfBounds is likely due to misconfiguration--the document will explain how to create propoer config |
| 21:49:11 | <nribeka> sgrannis: i hope my emails is clear enough |
| 21:49:36 | <nribeka> ah ok ok. i'm still cleaning up my comp right now. |
| 21:49:36 | <docpaul> shaun: it was amazing to see gunther finally "get it" this evening |
| 21:49:50 | <nribeka> preparing for hardy heron tomorrow |
| 21:50:02 | <sgrannis> nribeka: your emails are clear, and if we need clarification, will ask |
| 21:50:11 | <docpaul> hardy heron = ubuntu version? |
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| 21:51:11 | <nribeka> docpaul: yupz. i'm sick with winwoo wista ... |
| 21:51:33 | <upul> i got a old computer setup for openmrs yesterday, half windows all setup now, other half will be kubuntu when it comes out |
| 21:51:38 | <nribeka> sgrannis: thanks. i'm not used to write technical emails in english haha :D |
| 21:51:52 | <upul> so i can check in both |
| 21:52:02 | <maveriick> docpaul, hardy heron = 8.10 |
| 21:55:04 | <docpaul> right |
| 21:56:20 | <sgrannis> nribeka: the same goes from my side--if my emails are unclear please let me know. ;) |
| 21:57:14 | <nribeka> sgrannis: ok ok :D |
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| 21:57:41 | <nribeka> jodi scheduled for a phone call next week for us :D |
| 21:57:49 | <sgrannis> great! |
| 21:58:22 | <docpaul> jodi = cool |
| 21:58:36 | <docpaul> that reminds me... matt? |
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| 21:58:54 | <r0bby> def list = []; def insert = list.&add; insert "OpenMRS" insert "Rocks"; list.each { print it + " "; } println(); |
| 21:59:11 | <nribeka> i send email with typos everywhere to her :P |
| 21:59:16 | <r0bby> def list = []; def insert = list.&add; insert "OpenMRS"; insert "Rocks"; list.each { print it + " "; } println(); |
| 21:59:19 | <r0bby> :D |
| 22:00:04 | * r0bby dances |
| 22:00:13 | <r0bby> grooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooovy |
| 22:00:42 | <docpaul> robby: do you like phone conversations? |
| 22:01:35 | <r0bby> I can deal :) |
| 22:01:57 | <r0bby> Just let me know if it's schedule any time between now and sunday |
| 22:02:07 | <r0bby> s/now/tomorrow/ |
| 22:02:22 | <docpaul> robby: let's play a fast one on burke |
| 22:02:28 | <r0bby> I'm in atlantic city (it's community bonding period, i'm allowed! I have openmrs set up) |
| 22:02:48 | <r0bby> my phone is on the other side of the room :< |
| 22:02:53 | <docpaul> concoct an email to sporemba@regenstrief.org, cc to burke@openmrs.org |
| 22:03:00 | <docpaul> ask for a phone meeting with burke |
| 22:03:09 | <r0bby> sho is the other one? |
| 22:03:10 | <docpaul> sandy helps with my schedule and burke's schedule |
| 22:03:45 | <r0bby> what do i say... |
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| 22:03:51 | <r0bby> I have no idea |
| 22:03:55 | <r0bby> I work better online :X |
| 22:06:08 | <nribeka> r0bby: me too :D |
| 22:06:10 | <r0bby> docpaul: why am i doing this? |
| 22:06:27 | <r0bby> coding doesn't staret for a few weeks |
| 22:06:30 | <docpaul> say: i want to get coordinated with you burke so that i can be the most effect student. :) |
| 22:06:38 | <docpaul> it's going to take a while to get on his schedule |
| 22:06:45 | <docpaul> believe me, it will be worth it |
| 22:06:49 | <docpaul> trust me. :) |
| 22:07:41 | <r0bby> Oh |
| 22:07:44 | <r0bby> this is gonna be fun |
| 22:07:48 | <r0bby> I'll be on my own |
| 22:08:05 | <r0bby> is this a joke |
| 22:08:19 | <nribeka> r0bby: prepare some hitmen :P |
| 22:08:21 | <r0bby> So long as its not anytime tomorrow through to the weekend im fine |
| 22:08:31 | <r0bby> Already done |
| 22:08:35 | <docpaul> no, it's whenever it's convenient for the both of you |
| 22:08:55 | <docpaul> but be proactive and show burke that you're serious about working on this. :) |
| 22:09:01 | <docpaul> he'll be impressed |
| 22:09:26 | <r0bby> I wanna schedule a phone meetng w/ burke so that I can get coordinated with you burke so that i can be the most effective student. |
| 22:09:52 | <docpaul> but in a more intelligible form, of course. :) |
| 22:10:09 | <r0bby> I want to schedule a phone meetng w/ burke so that I can get coordinated with you burke so that i can be the most effective student. |
| 22:10:13 | <r0bby> that's not inteligent? |
| 22:10:17 | <docpaul> no... |
| 22:10:24 | <r0bby> ?!?!?! |
| 22:10:24 | <docpaul> want me to script it for you? :) |
| 22:10:27 | <maveriick> r0bby, :-D |
| 22:10:30 | <docpaul> Burke (and Sandy), |
| 22:10:32 | <r0bby> ?!?!??!?! |
| 22:10:35 | <r0bby> OH! |
| 22:10:51 | <docpaul> I'm so excited to be a part of the summer of code, and I want to get started on the right foot. |
| 22:10:52 | <mshanks> lol |
| 22:10:57 | <r0bby> Okay! |
| 22:10:58 | <docpaul> Can we make time for a phone conversation? |
| 22:10:58 | <r0bby> i got it |
| 22:11:00 | <mshanks> can't afford a phone conversation - but I can skype :D |
| 22:11:16 | <docpaul> matt: i *need" to talk with you over the phone |
| 22:11:22 | <docpaul> and $ will never be an issue |
| 22:11:28 | <docpaul> we can skype, or i will call you |
| 22:11:41 | <docpaul> i want you to write sporemba@regenstrief.org and get that started, ok? |
| 22:11:41 | <mshanks> cool |
| 22:11:42 | <mshanks> :) |
| 22:12:01 | <mshanks> that directed at me or r0bby? |
| 22:12:12 | <docpaul> you, matt.. |
| 22:12:15 | <mshanks> kk cool |
| 22:12:24 | <nribeka> woohoo everybody get a phone call too :D yayy ... |
| 22:12:35 | <mshanks> can I sort it on friday/weekend? bit busy finishing my dissertation at the moment lol |
| 22:12:36 | <r0bby> I'm so excited to be part of summer of code this year, and I want to get started on the right foot. |
| 22:12:39 | <r0bby> Can we make time for a phone conversation to make sure we're all on the same page. |
| 22:13:03 | <r0bby> Can we make time for a phone conversation to make sure we're all on the same page? |
| 22:13:05 | <docpaul> matt: during the call we'll lay out objectives that you have and i have... and get to know each other a little better |
| 22:13:07 | <r0bby> rather |
| 22:13:22 | <docpaul> it can be whenever is convenient for you |
| 22:13:38 | <docpaul> and when it works with my schedule |
| 22:13:41 | <r0bby> I'm horrible at writing emails formally :( |
| 22:13:50 | <docpaul> good time to learn. :) |
| 22:14:05 | <r0bby> docpaul: the world revolves around _ME_ |
| 22:14:10 | <r0bby> j/k |
| 22:14:11 | <r0bby> :) |
| 22:14:15 | <docpaul> hehe |
| 22:14:20 | <r0bby> no really it does |
| 22:14:22 | <maveriick> Oh! everybody catched their mentor, I am still to ..for Kollegger .. |
| 22:14:35 | <docpaul> andreas is a very cool guy as well |
| 22:14:41 | <r0bby> thanks for helping paul |
| 22:14:43 | <docpaul> do you need his email addres? |
| 22:14:47 | <docpaul> rob: of course! |
| 22:15:11 | <r0bby> I have burke's in my address book |
| 22:16:52 | <maveriick> docpaul, I already mailed him afte getting accepted. I think he is bit busy now or somehow the mail slips out of the inbox. Lets wait few moments more. |
| 22:17:07 | <docpaul> sure thing |
| 22:17:19 | <docpaul> andreas is a good mentor, you should have no problem |
| 22:17:46 | <maveriick> docpaul, I also think so :) |
| 22:18:29 | <nribeka> docpaul: andreas nick is andre<somedigit>? |
| 22:18:43 | <docpaul> akolleger typically |
| 22:19:09 | <r0bby> The only time that isn't good is tomorrow through to Sunday as i'll be in atlantic city,nj. |
| 22:19:13 | <r0bby> bad idea to stsate? |
| 22:19:14 | <r0bby> :X |
| 22:19:37 | <r0bby> state |
| 22:19:37 | <nribeka> ic |
| 22:19:37 | <r0bby> :X |
| 22:20:01 | <docpaul> r0bby: he likely wont be avail until next week for a phone call |
| 22:20:42 | <r0bby> How busy is this man?! |
| 22:20:59 | <r0bby> you're making it sound like he's the president LOL |
| 22:21:48 | <docpaul> he's close. :) |
| 22:23:46 | <r0bby> hrm hope that was intelligent enough |
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| 22:24:08 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, howdy |
| 22:24:13 | <[OmegentooX]> Met with Michelle yesterday =) |
| 22:24:20 | <docpaul> great! |
| 22:24:24 | <docpaul> how'd that go? |
| 22:24:52 | <njero> Hey openmrs, trying to solve something that should be easy: I have a set of ids: select id from set => (1, 2, 3) and I have another set of ids: select id from other_set => (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). What is the best way to determine that other_set contains all of the ids in set? |
| 22:24:56 | <njero> any ideas? |
| 22:25:10 | <[OmegentooX]> Good - we basically just sketched out ideas about what we could do and how I would be most helpful to her |
| 22:25:14 | <njero> hi docpaul! |
| 22:25:28 | <docpaul> heya njero ! |
| 22:25:52 | <docpaul> [OmegentooX]: coolness |
| 22:26:01 | <docpaul> i havent met michelle... was she cool? |
| 22:26:10 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, lol!!!! Indiana University sent me an "emergency preparedness" test phone call today |
| 22:26:18 | <[OmegentooX]> Since I'm still in the HR records from last year |
| 22:26:20 | <docpaul> oh lord... hahaha |
| 22:26:52 | <sgrannis> njero: are the id's unique in each set? eg, no dupes in 1 or the other? |
| 22:27:25 | <njero> sgrannis: there could be dups in the second.. it might be 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 7, 9 or something |
| 22:27:34 | <[OmegentooX]> So yeah. Michelle is cool. We didn't get to set the concrete goals I was hoping to, but it sounds like she still has some planning out she's doing |
| 22:27:52 | <docpaul> seem like a good person for the job of coordinating new documentation culture? |
| 22:27:53 | <r0bby> who is this 'michelle' |
| 22:28:00 | <docpaul> pearlbear |
| 22:28:07 | <r0bby> is [OmegentooX] a mentor? |
| 22:28:11 | <[OmegentooX]> lol, no |
| 22:28:19 | <r0bby> heh |
| 22:28:23 | <docpaul> previous intern, and likely intern this year |
| 22:28:29 | <docpaul> perhaps next year, he will mentor? :) |
| 22:28:57 | <r0bby> I plan on staying around prolly maintain the work i did -- i'm protective :x |
| 22:29:18 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, yeah, she's into writing strong style guides and organizing everything. We agree that since I have more coding experience, I'd handle javadoc + developer doc stuff (not writing all of it, but working with devs to write it) |
| 22:29:21 | <r0bby> unless i start work and realize 'holy moly i'm in over my head' |
| 22:29:41 | <docpaul> that sounds real positive |
| 22:29:44 | <njero> sgrannis: any ideas/ |
| 22:29:47 | <docpaul> i like what i'm hearing there |
| 22:29:51 | <sgrannis> njero: select a.id, b.id from (select distinct (id) from table_a as a, select distinct (id) from table_b as b) where a.id=b.id |
| 22:29:53 | <r0bby> what is she doing? |
| 22:29:58 | <docpaul> r0bby: soundsgood to me |
| 22:30:05 | <sgrannis> njero: then count the number of records returned |
| 22:30:08 | <docpaul> oh, you were looking for a sql statement? |
| 22:30:25 | <r0bby> I *REALLY* hope i don't drop out |
| 22:30:25 | <docpaul> why didnt you say so? :) |
| 22:30:30 | <nribeka> i thought njero asking for java :P |
| 22:30:40 | <njero> docpaul: I am looking for an sql statement |
| 22:30:47 | <njero> :) |
| 22:30:57 | <docpaul> what shaun said will work |
| 22:31:11 | <njero> sgrannis: I think tat gets me where I need to get.... I wil make it more difficult in a minut |
| 22:31:29 | <docpaul> r0bby: dropping out? lame |
| 22:31:30 | <sgrannis> njero: in your example if 3 records are returned then all 3 were in the larger set |
| 22:31:34 | <docpaul> totally lame |
| 22:31:42 | <r0bby> I wont |
| 22:31:46 | <r0bby> trust me I won't |
| 22:31:54 | <r0bby> after you and burke doing all you did |
| 22:31:55 | <r0bby> it |
| 22:31:58 | <r0bby> d be an insult |
| 22:32:12 | <r0bby> and totally not my character |
| 22:32:17 | <docpaul> nah, not so much that... but just a lame thing to do to your own ego. :) |
| 22:32:22 | <njero> for the record I am rewriting our regimen calcs in Baobab's OpenMRS impl and trying to determine which regimen a set of ingredients (from drug_orders) matches |
| 22:32:36 | <sgrannis> njero: this may be the solution in SQL, but certainly there are other ways to "skin the cat" ;) |
| 22:32:40 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, so, about the proposal you want from me. At this point I'm not sure what to write since there are no concrete goals in place, but are you looking for the ideas I have, how I can help, and things I plan to do over the summer and then a plan for after summer? |
| 22:33:07 | <r0bby> I have this bad addiction to the computer |
| 22:33:18 | <docpaul> coordinate with michelle, and together propose what you'll accomplish together |
| 22:33:18 | <r0bby> where if i'm away from it i go into withdrawls |
| 22:33:27 | <docpaul> start with this summer |
| 22:33:36 | <r0bby> [OmegentooX]: what are you guys working on? |
| 22:33:38 | <docpaul> we can evolve that over into fall and beyond |
| 22:34:23 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, ok, cool |
| 22:34:31 | <docpaul> what i want to see from you matt: that you're thinking independently about what's needed |
| 22:34:45 | <docpaul> and make suggestions of how you'll be self motivated to attack the problem |
| 22:34:50 | <[OmegentooX]> r0bby, reorganizing documentation, putting style guides in place, and encouraging a sort of documentation "community" |
| 22:35:33 | <docpaul> [OmegentooX]: i'd consider all of those things, plus altering the technologies to make it easier to access |
| 22:35:37 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, oh good. Then we're set on that =) |
| 22:36:29 | <[OmegentooX]> I've already sketched out some ideas I proposed to Michelle in my notebook |
| 22:36:30 | <docpaul> homework assignment: read karl fogel's sections on documentation in open source projects |
| 22:36:50 | <docpaul> do you have "producing open source software"? |
| 22:36:56 | <docpaul> or know of the website for it? |
| 22:36:58 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, I read his book and wrote a paper that cites him last year, even before SoC started =P |
| 22:37:11 | <docpaul> cool... he's becoming part of the openmrs community |
| 22:37:27 | <docpaul> he's going to also help us evolve the community... i spoke with him recently on the phone |
| 22:37:37 | <[OmegentooX]> Oh yeah? Awesome |
| 22:37:44 | <[OmegentooX]> I noticed him poking his head in #gsoc the other day |
| 22:37:57 | <docpaul> yep, he's cool |
| 22:38:38 | <[OmegentooX]> Must be hoping he'll get to sign more books this year, hehe |
| 22:42:10 | <njero> man I want to sleep |
| 22:42:57 | <r0bby> We need a meet up of all developers |
| 22:43:25 | <njero> r0bby: come to Durban in June! |
| 22:43:31 | <[OmegentooX]> r0bby, been there - the main guys get together a lot it seems |
| 22:43:56 | <docpaul> matt joined us for dinner. :) |
| 22:44:04 | <docpaul> and for the meeting, actually |
| 22:44:08 | <njero> sgrannis, docpaul: http://pastie.caboo.se/185952 This works well |
| 22:44:20 | <[OmegentooX]> Yup |
| 22:44:25 | <docpaul> got to see how we hack out consensus. :) |
| 22:45:25 | <njero> man I stayed up all night on this stuff |
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| 22:45:27 | <r0bby> heh |
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| 22:45:38 | <r0bby> this will be fun |
| 22:45:41 | <docpaul> njero: seems fairly specific. :) |
| 22:45:56 | <docpaul> are you going to have to create that for every regimen? |
| 22:46:02 | <r0bby> It was actually Burke's module that piqued(s/) my interest |
| 22:46:04 | <docpaul> given the concept ids? |
| 22:46:04 | <njero> docpaul: where do you guys store which drug_concepts belong to which regimen.. or do you? |
| 22:46:15 | <docpaul> we create sets |
| 22:46:34 | <docpaul> concepts which bundle other concepts |
| 22:46:52 | <njero> I was going to do that... but then I got hung up on ARV first line regimen alternative which has two possible sets |
| 22:46:56 | <docpaul> ie, antibiotics is a concept which is a set of drugs that are all antibiotics |
| 22:47:01 | <njero> do you just make two head concepts? |
| 22:47:19 | <docpaul> regimen 1a is a set |
| 22:47:26 | <docpaul> regimen 1b is a set |
| 22:47:36 | <docpaul> isn't there a WHO naming convention for sets? |
| 22:47:39 | <docpaul> er, regimens? |
| 22:47:51 | <docpaul> ie, each specific regiment? |
| 22:47:54 | <docpaul> er, regimen? |
| 22:47:58 | <njero> I think so, but I am working with Malawi MoH guidelines |
| 22:48:53 | <docpaul> do they have specific regimens? |
| 22:49:02 | <njero> yes, for now I just dropped the ids in as a temporary step |
| 22:49:10 | <docpaul> ie, regimen 1 is 3tc, azt, and nfv? |
| 22:49:28 | <njero> gah.. I only deal in generics |
| 22:49:45 | <docpaul> if so, then make set concepts for each specific regimen (group of arvs) |
| 22:49:59 | <docpaul> and then make set concepts for each group of regimens |
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| 22:50:23 | <njero> Aha |
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| 22:50:59 | <docpaul> and it keeps the knowledge more central... otherwise you'll be forced to maintain regimens within your code, and in other places where regimens are referenced. |
| 22:51:08 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, do'oh, you signed off again. Did you get my msg? |
| 22:51:12 | <njero> Aha, so a regimen concept like ARV first line regimen alternative is a set of regimen sets..... |
| 22:51:20 | <docpaul> given that regimens are a moving target... that's a bad precedent |
| 22:51:24 | <docpaul> nope, i didnt |
| 22:51:32 | <docpaul> right |
| 22:51:39 | <njero> docpaul: it is what we have now.. I am rewriting it :) |
| 22:52:48 | <njero> docpaul: in fact over the past few weeks we have had lots of meetings about drugs and I think we are going to propose some serious changes, or additions. We are looking for serious feedback on it though |
| 22:53:14 | <docpaul> my advice: use the dictionary as your way of describing the reality of your care |
| 22:53:20 | <docpaul> do it centrally |
| 22:53:44 | <njero> as in, make everything cocepts? |
| 22:53:48 | <docpaul> maintaning the relationships of drugs to regimens in code, is.. icky |
| 22:54:05 | <docpaul> you lose nothing by making a series of set concepts |
| 22:54:09 | <njero> or as in: keep everything in the database and leave the code out of it |
| 22:54:34 | <docpaul> use the code to access your regimens within the dictionary |
| 22:54:44 | <docpaul> not represent the regimens themselves |
| 22:54:51 | <njero> got it, makes sense |
| 22:55:20 | <njero> do concepts need names? |
| 22:55:25 | <docpaul> it's paid off for us when we've done so |
| 22:55:26 | <docpaul> yes. |
| 22:55:54 | <njero> even if it is something like 'Regimen 1' |
| 22:55:54 | <docpaul> you want them to have names, for helping people understand how they might be useful in their circumstances |
| 22:56:05 | <docpaul> as a system grows, you wont be able to predict the reuse |
| 22:56:22 | <docpaul> doesnt the malawian MOH have some sort of naming convention for the regimens? |
| 22:57:06 | <njero> yes, but that is what is at the head level... they don't give sub names to the various combinations |
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| 22:57:31 | <docpaul> sorry |
| 22:57:52 | <njero> <njero> yes, but that is what is at the head level... they don't give sub names to the various combinations |
| 22:58:39 | <docpaul> this is old: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Dictionary_101 |
| 22:58:43 | <docpaul> but it might be helpful |
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| 22:59:07 | <docpaul> i'd double check that... |
| 22:59:12 | <r0bby> docpaul: i just realized -- my project i have to have knowledge of the entire app |
| 22:59:31 | <r0bby> ie *ALLLL* models |
| 23:00:27 | <r0bby> :x |
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| 23:04:08 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul_, sheesh, are you using IP over pigeon? =P |
| 23:04:18 | <docpaul_> hahaha |
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| 23:05:49 | <docpaul> ok, this is a sign |
| 23:05:53 | <docpaul> it's time for bed. :) |
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| 23:15:24 | <r0bby> [OmegentooX]: Is somebody hunting the pidgins? |
| 23:18:32 | <r0bby> i thought paul had this kickass irc connection!??!?! |
| 23:18:38 | <r0bby> s/irc/internet/ |
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