IRC Chat : 2008-04-22 - OpenMRS

00:00:15 <mshanks> lol
00:02:33 <mshanks> hm
00:02:41 <mshanks> bored
00:03:03 <mshanks> might fill out a group registration form for openmrs on freenode. host cloaks ftw
00:08:14 <mshanks> lol
00:08:25 <mshanks> I'm not authorized to post to the interns mailing list
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07:19:27 <OpenMRSBot> Hey there Ben!
07:20:10 <bwolfe> good morning/afternoon/evening everyone
07:21:44 <nribeka> morning bwolfe
07:31:01 <mshanks> alloha
07:43:22 <nribeka> napi: where are you right now?
07:43:40 <mshanks> at home working on my dissertation
07:43:52 <mshanks> y?
07:44:02 <nribeka> same here ....
07:44:14 <nribeka> waiting for the reds vs the blues haha :D
07:44:47 <nribeka> i mean same in home but without the dissertation part :D
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07:57:07 <mshanks> :(
07:57:08 <mshanks> git
07:57:30 <mshanks> only up side to it all is I spoke to my tutor the other day, and she's a fan of the short+concise+to the point style writeups
07:57:38 <mshanks> most poeple handing in ~15,000 words
07:57:43 <mshanks> I'm going with 7.5k lol :)
07:58:44 <nribeka> haha ... lolz ...
07:59:19 <nribeka> do you know how do we contact our mentor?
07:59:27 <nribeka> using the interns mailing list?
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08:02:07 <mshanks> doesn't really matter. email, forums, irc, skype.. whatever your flavour
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08:15:30 <bwolfe> nribeka: if you have questions about direction for you project, contact your mentor directly.
08:15:50 <bwolfe> nribeka: if you have questions about how to do somethign in openmrs, the dev@openmrs.org list is probably the best option
08:15:56 <bwolfe> !projects
08:15:56 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org
08:16:27 <bwolfe> your mentor unfortunately does not have a very good wiki home page. http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:Sgrannis
08:16:31 <bwolfe> :-/
08:17:29 <bwolfe> nribeka: you can try <firstname>@openmrs.org or, because Sean works here at RG, <sgrannis> at regenstrief.org should work for him
08:17:48 <nribeka> i have his email
08:18:05 <nribeka> i was just wondering whether he is in the interns mailing list
08:19:21 <nribeka> i will send email today :D
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09:10:13 <nzeyi> hi every one
09:10:32 <bwolfe> hey nzeyi
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09:12:40 <bwolfe> where in rwanda are you based nzeyi ?
09:13:03 <nzeyi> I am in Kigali
09:14:34 <nzeyi> I am a new into the chat, today GSoc results were announced and I going to work on one of the openMRS project
09:14:45 <nzeyi> hope it ll be cool
09:14:49 <bwolfe> in kigali, just for university?
09:14:55 <bwolfe> hopefully it is. :-)
09:14:58 <nzeyi> yeh
09:15:08 <bwolfe> one of your mentors is in rwanda for the month of May
09:15:23 <bwolfe> he is out in rwinkwavu I believe
09:15:26 <nzeyi> I met him yesterday
09:15:44 <nzeyi> it was quite good
09:15:56 <bwolfe> great. :-)
09:16:44 <bwolfe> you met christian in rwanda, or just met him online here?
09:16:58 <bwolfe> did you happen to meet Chase also ?
09:17:20 <nzeyi> I met him at the Burbon Cofee in Kigali
09:17:29 <nzeyi> Chasa no
09:18:19 <bwolfe> Chase will be staying in rwinkwavu through the summer I think
09:18:43 <nzeyi> Oh that's good
09:19:09 <nzeyi> I was also chatting with Maros, but today he seems be disconnected from MSN
09:19:33 <nzeyi> bwolfe , where are you based ?
09:20:18 <bwolfe> yeah, maros has a full time job that is not openmrs. so he is not on constantly. it is easier to catch him in the evenings here in the US (about 7 hours from now)
09:20:31 <bwolfe> I'm in Indianapolis, Indiana in the States
09:21:09 <nzeyi> good;)
09:22:13 <nzeyi> So, can you tell me a little bit more about these days plan before the project starts
09:22:42 <bwolfe> well, you're welcome to start anytime. :-)
09:22:52 <bwolfe> but the first thing to do would be to read through the developer documentation
09:22:55 <bwolfe> !developers
09:22:55 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "developers" is not a valid command.
09:23:18 <bwolfe> !learn developers as http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers
09:23:18 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded.
09:23:23 <bwolfe> !developers
09:23:23 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "developers" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers
09:23:39 <bwolfe> nzeyi: that link has some background on openmrs for developers
09:23:45 <bwolfe> and a "how to install"
09:24:20 <bwolfe> before the start of the project you should definitely have openmrs running and an idea of what/where you will be working in the code
09:27:11 <nzeyi> Ok, I got that yesterday , I am going to install the system on my laptop just today and go on with it
09:38:00 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3984]: remoteformentry: updating to the latest scheduler requirements <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3984> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3983]: remoteformentry: Fixing export queue items code to have a smaller memory … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3983> || OpenMRS Modules: Remote FormEntry 1.7 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=remoteformentry&version=&1.7> || OpenMRS Modules: Remote FormEntry 1.6 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=remoteformentry&version=&1.6>
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09:48:52 <nribeka> ah ... shaun is gone again :(
09:49:37 <bwolfe> he's here somewhere...I saw him sitting in a meeting earlier :-p
09:50:07 <bwolfe> its probably best to assume that if you don't hear anything from him, he's just busy and will get back with you
09:50:07 <nribeka> yeah, i got an email from him
09:50:25 <nribeka> he said that he will try to improve his presence in the chat room :D
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09:51:14 <bwolfe> ah yes
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09:51:33 <bwolfe> well, he, docpaul, and burke have meetings for about 50% of their time everyday
09:51:48 <bwolfe> so as they pull the laptop on/off wired/wireless they will jump on and off :-)
09:53:21 <nribeka> ah ic. Shaun also introduce new people from regen. James Egg and Jodi Trotter
09:54:32 <bwolfe> ah yes, theyre good people. :-)
09:56:40 <nribeka> yup :)
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10:12:05 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #696 (enhancement created): Enforce Integer Values for non-precise numerics at both the web and service layers <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/696>
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10:42:08 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #693 (defect closed): ObsGroup branch merge wasn't entirely successful... <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/693#comment:10> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3991]: Fixed obs group id not being created for child objects - #693 Author: … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3991> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3990]: report-api-refactoring: Change package references in … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3990> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3989]: -- dss * added a new method signature to loadRule to accept a different … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3989> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3988]: report-api-refactoring: Make providers static in DataSetServiceImpl <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3988> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3987]: report-api-refactoring: Refactor ReportServiceImpl to retrieve … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3987> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3986]: report-api-refactoring: Refactor RunReportController to call … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3986> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3985]: report-api-refactoring: Add obsGroupId to RowPerObsDataSetDefinition and … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3985>
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11:42:41 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Small changes without remaking forms <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=367#p1177>
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12:14:26 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Small changes without remaking forms <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=367#p1178>
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12:41:10 <r0bby> hey jmiranda
12:41:17 <jmiranda> hey r0bby
12:41:42 <jmiranda> congratulations
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13:14:45 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3996]: report-api-refactoring: Moved rowIterator() to Iterator(); getParameters() … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3996> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3995]: -- chica * continuation of previous commit <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3995> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3994]: -- chica * made changes to accommodate changes in dss and atd modules <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3994> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3993]: -- atd * changed method signatures to include rulePackagePrefix <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3993> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3992]: -- dss * changed method signatures to include rulePackagePrefix from atd … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3992>
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13:51:54 <r0bby> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1247/
13:56:18 <r0bby> I'm trying to figure out a way that i could track tasks
13:56:33 <r0bby> I actually went so far as to copy/paste the wikimarkup and print it
13:57:24 <bwolfe> track your own tasks ?
13:57:45 <r0bby> yes
13:58:18 <r0bby> i suppose i'll wait til burke gives me a rundown of how he wants it completed :x
13:58:42 <r0bby> the way it's looking -- i'll have to do some reflection :(
13:59:05 <r0bby> and based on that generate the components
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14:22:42 <r0bby> [OmegentooX]: did you get accepted?
14:22:55 <r0bby> jmiranda: by the way thanks -- diddnt see your msg
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14:34:56 <Jmiranda_> Ignore - just testing blackberry irc client
14:35:27 <r0bby> nice!
14:35:40 <bwolfe> quality
14:35:51 <bwolfe> Jmiranda_: how does it do at notifying ?
14:36:28 <Jmiranda_> Cool - it works
14:37:25 <Jmiranda_> Bwolfe: Not sure yet. I haven't figured out how to do nickname completion either.
14:37:53 <bwolfe> thats annoying
14:38:26 <bwolfe> the client for palm sucks down battery life
14:38:38 <bwolfe> mainly because it keeps the screen on and is continually pinging the server
14:39:10 <bwolfe> ...and it apparently doesn't leave me signed in (when I tell it to) when I leave the app to do other things.
14:39:45 <[OmegentooX]> bwolfe, Palm OS doesn't multitask
14:40:08 <[OmegentooX]> I'd have to assume that keeping you signed in has to use a proxy, like the AIM client for Palm I used
14:40:25 <[OmegentooX]> This is what makes the iPhone so awesome =D
14:41:07 <bwolfe> alright, now I want to test it again :-p
14:41:33 <[OmegentooX]> (and anything that uses WiFi sucks down Palm battery)
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14:41:49 <bw-palm> yo homies
14:41:59 <[OmegentooX]> word to yo mutha
14:42:16 <Jmiranda_> Please stop
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14:42:40 <bwolfe> odd
14:43:03 <bwolfe> as soon as I click a button to leave the program it kicks me....but then it asks if I want to keep the connection alive
14:43:06 <bwolfe> very odd
14:43:23 <[OmegentooX]> hm
14:43:32 <r0bby> [OmegentooX]: answer me
14:43:48 <r0bby> :P
14:44:58 <[OmegentooX]> r0bby, oh. I'm not working with OpenMRS through GSoC, but I'll be working with them this summer. I did get into the org I applied for though
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14:45:51 <bwolfe> hmm, who could that be
14:45:56 <r0bby> which one?
14:46:00 <bwolfe> which org [OmegentooX] ?
14:46:07 <r0bby> traitor!
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14:46:21 <r0bby> congrats nonetheless
14:46:29 <[OmegentooX]> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/sfc/about.html <--
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14:47:31 <[OmegentooX]> It's a fairly simple project to rewrite a web annotation system
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14:48:50 <[OmegentooX]> Quitting that client asked if I wanted to close my PPP connection o.O
14:53:13 <bwolfe> which palm client [OmegentooX] ?
14:53:19 <[OmegentooX]> upIRC
14:53:27 <bwolfe> yeah, thats what I'm using
14:53:31 <bwolfe> and thats what I'm getting
14:54:42 <[OmegentooX]> Ah
14:54:56 <[OmegentooX]> It's asking if you want to keep your WiFi/Cell connection open, not the IRC connection
14:55:28 <bwolfe> thats junk
14:55:35 <bwolfe> but it does make sense, actually
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14:58:01 <bwolfe> going to write some cool custom plugin for us r0bby ?
14:58:12 <bwolfe> ...or are you just looking for vulnerabilities? :-p
15:03:31 <r0bby> I'm not malicious
15:04:09 <r0bby> I may just to learn
15:04:13 <r0bby> i got time between now and soc
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15:31:10 <bwolfe> peartizer, eh ?
15:32:18 <peartizer> :)
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15:41:02 <r0bby> wtf is a peartizer?!?!! furthurmore what the HELLL is an appletizer
15:41:51 <appletizer> wikipedia
15:42:02 <appletizer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appletiser
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15:53:56 <bwolfe> interesting
15:54:07 <bwolfe> I was thinking like appletini
15:58:08 <pearlbear> bwolfe: you're right, no action items. I'm about to futz with the semantic plug in now
15:58:38 <bwolfe> cool
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16:03:37 <bwolfe> pearlbear: we're using wiki 1.8.2
16:03:53 <bwolfe> its a little old...so that might be why things weren't working
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16:04:42 <pearlbear> hmmm, OK
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16:27:01 <pearlbear> bwolfe: damn
16:27:34 <pearlbear> semantic plugin has a different, non-trivial issue with my version of mediawiki
16:27:48 <pearlbear> and from the mailing lists, it appears not solved. Sigh
16:30:07 <bwolfe> which version are you on ?
16:30:14 <pearlbear> 1.9.3
16:30:46 <pearlbear> I could try a newer version (if there is one). I could also try 1.8.2
16:31:20 <pearlbear> they are up to 1.12
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16:33:43 <pearlbear> but I'm not convinced - it seems there are a fair # of issues with the extension
16:47:01 <pearlbear> bwolfe: any plans to upgrade MW? I'm just wondering how much sense it makes to walk down the SemanticWiki path. I could install 1.8.2 and see if I can find a fix, but who knows what would happen on an upgrade...
16:47:46 <bwolfe> pearlbear: we can upgrade if need be
16:47:55 <bwolfe> I think
16:47:57 <bwolfe> :-p
16:48:18 <pearlbear> :-)
16:48:34 <bwolfe> I can't remember if there were big changes to some of the MW libraries /before/ 182 or /after/ 182
16:48:47 <bwolfe> I remember last summer Adam Aisen was working on it
16:49:04 <bwolfe> he mentioned something about the MW code being different and having to fix a bunch of stuff
16:49:27 <bwolfe> ...but I don't know if bailed and we stayed at 1.8.2 or if he did it /because/ we were at 1.8.2 :-/
16:49:46 <pearlbear> Alright, what I'll do is this: - upgrade my install of MW, and see if I can get the extension to work *and* really have a thought as to whether the extension is really worth the effort in terms of what we want to get done
16:49:48 <bwolfe> pearlbear: what'd you mean by "they are up to 1.12" did you mean 2.12?
16:50:09 <pearlbear> no, I think 1.12. Lemme check
16:50:27 <bwolfe> ok, I guess 12 is greater than 8
16:50:34 <pearlbear> 1.12.0
16:50:35 <pearlbear> yeah
16:50:42 <bwolfe> thats why I prefer using "02" instead of just "2"
16:51:02 <pearlbear> I actually don't like version #s beyond 9, but that's my own thing
16:51:28 <bwolfe> maybe its just me, but in my head I say "one point one two" instead of "one point twelve" :-/
16:51:31 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3999]: complex_obs branch: Added ConceptComplex and ConceptComplexHandler; and … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3999> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3998]: Merging trunk to report-api-refactoring [3896]:[3997] <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3998> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3997]: Updating hl7 handler to propagate saves to obs groupings <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3997>
16:51:44 <pearlbear> bwolfe: ne - me too
16:51:56 <pearlbear> or 1.1.2
16:52:23 <bwolfe> I've gotta run...late for dinner already
16:52:28 <pearlbear> adios
16:52:30 <bwolfe> ping me tonight with what you find out
16:52:32 <bwolfe> :-)
16:52:40 <pearlbear> ok
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18:44:27 <OpenMRSBot> Hey there Ben!
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19:45:23 <pearlbear> bwolfe: I think we're going to ditch the semantic wiki idea for now, and just try to do a really good job of using categories
19:45:31 <bwolfe> hmm, ok
19:45:44 <bwolfe> semantic is still a little unstable?
19:47:01 <pearlbear> yeah, and I think it's overkill for what we really need right now, anyway. We can revisit later, perhaps it will have gotten better
19:47:28 <pearlbear> there seem to be a variety of efforts in mediawiki development around tagging, etc. - so more might emerge later anyway
20:10:45 * r0bby mugs everybody!
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21:06:59 <Keelhaul> hi
21:07:06 <Keelhaul> ..bernate question =P
21:07:18 <Keelhaul> <key>
21:07:18 <Keelhaul> <column name="case_id" />
21:07:18 <Keelhaul> </key>
21:07:29 <Keelhaul> <key column="case_id" />
21:07:32 <Keelhaul> do these do the same
21:07:49 <Keelhaul> or do you have to use a particular one depending on the mapping type
21:08:05 <nribeka> hehe ...
21:08:08 <nribeka> :D
21:08:13 <Keelhaul> first one is from the many-to-many user/priv mapping
21:08:33 <Keelhaul> other one is how its in normal many-to-one mappings
21:13:02 <nribeka> if i remember it correctly, the first one is for composite key. if you have more than one property as a key. while the second one is for a single key.
21:13:13 <nribeka> please correct me if i'm wrong
21:22:26 <Keelhaul> hm
21:22:28 <Keelhaul> ah
21:22:32 <Keelhaul> good to know
21:22:44 <Keelhaul> so for one key, both should do i guess
21:22:47 <Keelhaul> thx
21:27:33 <bwolfe> nribeka: you are incorrect :-p
21:27:39 <bwolfe> they are /exactly/ the same Keelhaul
21:27:59 <bwolfe> I think they started with that first form
21:28:08 <bwolfe> it has more options for "column" if you need them
21:28:16 <Keelhaul> o
21:28:18 <bwolfe> the second one is just to make the mapping files a little smaller and neater
21:28:36 <Keelhaul> well i think i found my bug from last night
21:28:40 <bwolfe> really?
21:28:46 <Keelhaul> it was an order-by prop
21:28:56 <Keelhaul> which was set to an object name, not table field name
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21:29:55 <bwolfe> ah, ok.
21:30:07 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: was that in your case mapping file, or one of hte location ones?
21:30:24 <Keelhaul> encounter-encounter mapping
21:30:51 <bwolfe> ah, ok
21:30:51 <Keelhaul> <set name="childEncounters" inverse="true" cascade="all" order-by="encounter_datetime">
21:30:52 <Keelhaul> <key column="parent_encounter_id" />
21:30:52 <Keelhaul> <one-to-many class="org.openmrs.module.inpatientcare.Encounter" />
21:30:52 <Keelhaul> </set>
21:31:58 <bwolfe> cool
21:31:58 <Keelhaul> hm
21:32:07 <Keelhaul> if i create an admin list extension
21:32:13 <Keelhaul> can i add items to an existing block
21:32:18 <Keelhaul> rather than adding my own
21:33:18 <bwolfe> each block should have its own extension
21:33:24 <bwolfe> you can add links to another section
21:33:36 <bwolfe> or you can add your own entire section with an adminListExtension
21:33:38 <bwolfe> is that what you mean?
21:34:16 <Keelhaul> ah
21:34:21 <nribeka> ah ... sorry :P
21:34:24 <Keelhaul> i only found out how to add edminlist extensions
21:34:28 <Keelhaul> err
21:34:29 <Keelhaul> adminlist
21:34:43 <Keelhaul> havent figured out extension points yet
21:34:48 <Keelhaul> might be useful
21:35:11 <Keelhaul> if i understand correctly, adding your own boxes to the patient overview tab wasnt possible until just recently?
21:36:11 <bwolfe> right
21:36:26 <Keelhaul> ah thats good
21:36:40 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: yeah, just check the code in the local_header page for the section you want to add to
21:36:44 <bwolfe> there should be an extension there
21:36:58 <Keelhaul> ok
21:37:14 <bwolfe> there is a wiki page on extension points on the modules doc page
21:37:17 <bwolfe> !modules
21:37:17 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "modules" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Modules
21:38:28 <bwolfe> I need to run. jmiranda is a pro at modules. he can answer all your questions. :-)
21:38:41 <Keelhaul> ok thx, gn
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22:06:44 <r0bby> installed supybot =)
22:06:50 <r0bby> hey docpaul !
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22:14:31 <r0bby> :)
22:14:37 <r0bby> ~part #openmrs
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22:14:41 <r0bby> okay
22:14:43 <r0bby> sorry.
22:14:50 <r0bby> cool :D
22:15:02 <r0bby> now i can code plugins while i have free time :D
22:17:35 <r0bby> :x
22:18:11 <docpaul> hi. :)
22:18:28 <docpaul> why not hack groovy in your spare time? :)
22:18:51 <docpaul> mr. summer of code recipient!
22:24:01 <r0bby> :)
22:24:06 <r0bby> I should
22:24:18 <r0bby> I need burke's help getting started
22:24:26 <r0bby> so I can't do much til then
22:27:04 <r0bby> I'm not gonna last long in #gsoc
22:28:29 <r0bby> docpaul: did you add my blog feed yet>
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23:50:18 <lh> wow
23:50:20 <lh> hi guys
23:50:32 <upul> hi
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23:53:16 <nribeka> hi lh
23:53:23 <nribeka> hi shaun
23:53:29 <sgrannis_away_> hello!
23:53:36 <lh> hi
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23:54:03 <nribeka> lh: are you leslie from google?
23:54:18 <lh> nribeka: yes indeed
23:54:33 <nribeka> sgrannis: jodi contacted me early on
23:54:53 <sgrannis> great! do we have some itmes set up?
23:55:10 <sgrannis> i was hoping to be able to demonstate the linakge GUI at some point
23:55:10 <nribeka> she told me about the weekly call
23:55:23 <nribeka> tuesday at 10am est
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23:55:27 <sgrannis> the GUI will help pout things in context, i htink
23:55:31 <sgrannis> great
23:55:51 <nribeka> yeah, i was wondering about the application
23:56:01 <nribeka> where can i find the sample data
23:56:09 <nribeka> so i can see the matching process
23:56:21 <sgrannis> I can send you some sample data -- we have a number of synthetic test sets
23:56:23 <nribeka> is it in the source code svn as well?
23:56:33 <nribeka> i don't see any in there
23:56:38 <sgrannis> the test dat ais not in the soruce code - - good point -- we should put it there
23:56:52 <nribeka> ah ic.
23:57:02 <nribeka> could i have the sample data?
23:57:09 <sgrannis> for now i can email the test data to you
23:57:21 <nribeka> great.
23:57:36 <nribeka> lh: gsoc channel is very packed
23:57:50 <nribeka> lh: and you must reply all the intro thread :D
23:58:43 <nribeka> sgrannis: when is james going to get back from his vacation?
23:58:45 <nribeka> :D
23:58:49 <sgrannis> popular place ot be!
23:59:04 <sgrannis> james will be back on monday