IRC Chat : 2008-04-21 - OpenMRS

00:02:57 <r0bby> http://xkcd.com/413/
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07:29:09 <OpenMRSBot> Hey there Ben!
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08:35:42 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #661 (enhancement closed): Allow OpenMRS User to Change Log Level <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/661#comment:7> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #139 (enhancement closed): Error Log Viewable on Web <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/139#comment:7> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3977]: Added ability to change server log level at runtime via global property - … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3977> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3976]: -- sockethl7listener * made changes so that HL7SocketHandler can be … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3976>
08:36:46 * napi plays dramatic music on loop suitable for today
08:38:21 <bwolfe> heh
08:38:40 <bwolfe> everybody still have their fingernails left?
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08:46:57 <napi> hah I wish... lost those about a week ago
08:47:28 <nribeka> bwolfe: how many more hours do we need to bite our fingernails?
08:47:35 <bwolfe> !gsoctimeline
08:47:35 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "gsoctimeline" --- http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline
08:47:43 <bwolfe> theres a countdown somewhere too
08:48:19 <nribeka> 12 pdt ... so it's less than 6 hours
08:48:26 <bwolfe> http://timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?month=4&day=21&year=2008&hour=19&min=00&sec=00&p0=0
08:48:39 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1ovU> (at timeanddate.com)
08:48:39 <nribeka> i think my fingernails should be enough for another 6 more hours
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09:05:46 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #625 (task closed): ModuleClassLoader.loadClass generates > 100 megs worth of log <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/625#comment:2>
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09:35:54 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #678 (enhancement closed): Add id's to navigation links and patient overview boxes <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/678#comment:1> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #679 (enhancement closed): Add extension point to patientOverview.jsp for adding boxes <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/679#comment:1> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3980]: Adding css ids to web elements - #678 Adding extension to patient overview … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3980> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #680 (defect closed): try/catch inListener.getRuntimeProperties would ease an already difficult install... <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/680#comment:1> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3979]: Catching throwable exceptions in Listener to ease startup pains - #680 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3979> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3978]: Dropping debug level messages to trace level in ModuleClassLoader - #625 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3978>
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09:41:39 <napi> fgs
09:41:41 <napi> can't concentrate on work
09:41:48 <napi> can't stop refreshing my email :(
09:42:02 <nribeka> still 4 hours to go napi :D
09:42:13 <napi> tell me about it
09:42:24 <nribeka> isn't you dissertation marathon today?
09:42:37 <nribeka> ups your
09:43:28 <napi> hah yeah it's meant to be
09:43:34 <napi> but I write a line, refresh email, write a line... :p
09:45:11 <nribeka> i install google talk :D
09:48:43 <Keelhaul> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1246/
09:50:28 <napi> hahaha
09:50:28 <napi> love it
09:50:35 <nribeka> lolz ...
09:51:21 <nribeka> i like the damon scott and bubles too
09:51:25 <nribeka> lolz
09:55:52 <Keelhaul> it wasnt very funny =(
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09:56:21 <napi> hey docpaul
09:56:25 <nribeka> really? i thinks it's funny :P
10:08:01 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Ime Asangansi: Getting a fuller picture <http://asangansi.blogspot.com/2008/04/getting-fuller-picture.html> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3981]: report-api-refactoring: Fixing compile errors <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3981>
10:09:32 <bwolfe> man, the only conversation going on in #gsoc is "I can't wait for another 4 hours, boo hoo..."
10:09:40 <Keelhaul> lol
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10:11:23 <nribeka> lolz ...
10:11:24 <nribeka> :D
10:11:51 <napi> not all that dis-similar to in here :p
10:12:17 <bwolfe> true
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10:20:35 <omar> Have been to participate in the project, but from what i see could not be
10:21:13 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: child rooms work now, but only for locations, not for departments =/
10:21:35 <bwolfe> haha
10:21:50 <Keelhaul> the problem in Location was me being too picky with the setters
10:22:03 <Keelhaul> setLocations was set to only do anything if the given Set wasnt null
10:22:10 <Keelhaul> didnt know hibernate uses it
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10:22:20 <Keelhaul> err setRooms()
10:23:17 <bwolfe> hmm, I hope omar didn't think that was directed at him
10:23:18 <bwolfe> :-/
10:23:45 <Keelhaul> =o
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10:32:34 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: if i create an Encounter, and then add obs and orders
10:32:47 <Keelhaul> is it enough to just do a save call for the encounter
10:34:00 <bwolfe> it should cascade, yes
10:34:13 <bwolfe> you can look in the hibernate mapping file to make sure
10:34:59 <Keelhaul> yea so i thought
10:35:09 <Keelhaul> if i save the location, it doesnt =/
10:35:24 <Keelhaul> i have to save depts and rooms manually
10:35:38 <Keelhaul> or the test gives me an error about dateCreated for a child element being null
10:36:23 <Keelhaul> i actually iterate through all child elements and set the dateCreated and creator if null in serviceimpl
10:40:01 <bwolfe> yeah, you have to iterate through child elements and add the dateCreated...thats how the other service methods are doing it
10:40:35 <Keelhaul> that i do
10:43:10 <docpaul> hi!
10:44:04 <Keelhaul> hi
10:46:35 <bwolfe> docpaul: everyone is busy incessantly checking their email...they have no time to greet you
10:46:48 <docpaul> hehe
10:46:59 <docpaul> i'm trying to catch up a bit mysel
10:47:00 <docpaul> f
10:47:18 <docpaul> how was the trip to mysql conf?
10:49:02 <napi> read the stuff about self joins... it's brilliant
10:53:20 <jmiranda> bwolfe, did you tell everyone about the application review extension?
10:53:47 <bwolfe> no, not yet
10:53:55 <bwolfe> I didn't want to be the one to break the bad news
10:54:06 <bwolfe> google really should get their act together
10:55:41 <nribeka> extension?
10:56:04 <napi> ¬.¬
10:56:12 * napi looks for hitman's phone number
10:56:59 <bwolfe> yeah, sorry, hope thats ok with you guys
10:57:07 <bwolfe> you weren't waiting on the results or anything, were you ?
10:57:28 <nribeka> for how long bwolfe?
10:58:03 <bwolfe> I think they said no longer than 12 days nribeka
10:58:51 <nribeka> omg, seriously?
10:59:20 <nribeka> so there will be no announcement today then?
10:59:43 <nribeka> another two weeks then ... :(
11:00:28 * napi gives nribeka a cookie
11:01:29 <nribeka> napi: let's send our hitman to find lh :D
11:01:38 <napi> great plan
11:01:52 <jmiranda> nribeka, good luck with that ... she has very good security
11:02:14 <jmiranda> APRIL FOOL'S!
11:02:38 <nribeka> arrgghhh ... that's 20 days late jmiranda :(
11:02:39 * jmiranda is 20 days late
11:02:40 <Keelhaul> whos lh
11:02:55 <napi> Keelhaul; woman from google who's in charge of gsoc overall
11:03:31 <Keelhaul> =o
11:04:38 <docpaul> did you guys enjoy your stop at google?
11:04:52 <napi> ?
11:05:00 <nribeka> hi docpaul
11:05:03 <docpaul> ben and justin went to visit lh last week
11:05:06 <docpaul> heya nribeka
11:05:18 <Keelhaul> leslie hawt-horn =D
11:06:00 <Keelhaul> o wait
11:06:02 <Keelhaul> i googled her pics
11:06:03 <Keelhaul> nm
11:06:04 <bwolfe> docpaul: yeah...wasn't exactly smooth, but she gave us a mini tour in the time she had
11:06:07 <docpaul> hehe
11:06:10 <bwolfe> ouch
11:06:47 <bwolfe> we were supposed to meet at 8...but I had forgotten to actually confirm that in all of the emails back and forth
11:06:59 <bwolfe> so we never /officially/ made it onto her calendar
11:07:02 <docpaul> whoops
11:07:32 <bwolfe> so around 9 we got a hold of her and she stopped by the office and took us around
11:08:19 <docpaul> is burke in the office today?
11:08:46 <bwolfe> yeah
11:09:20 <docpaul> i'm at home just trying to catch up with family and email
11:09:26 <docpaul> i'll be in on wed
11:09:56 <bwolfe> ok, I'll allow it. ;-)
11:10:27 <bwolfe> docpaul: whats your inbox size now?
11:10:39 <docpaul> some really good things happened last week. :)
11:11:05 <docpaul> at this moment, 1269
11:11:34 <bwolfe> not too bad
11:12:09 <bwolfe> docpaul: good to hear...didn't see any blog posts from you or hamish during the week :-p
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11:16:36 <jmiranda> docpaul: hamish?
11:16:58 <docpaul> what about hamish? :)
11:17:55 <jmiranda> "didn't see any blog posts from you or hamish"?
11:18:32 <bwolfe> wasn't hamish at the same conf with you docpaul?
11:18:42 <docpaul> yes, he was
11:18:52 <docpaul> we had a lot of time to catch up
11:18:56 <docpaul> it was good for us
11:19:10 <jmiranda> oh sorry ... i thought paul was saying that to you
11:19:16 <bwolfe> jmiranda: perhaps I should have said "I didn't see any blog posts by you and I didn't see Hamish start a blog during the week"
11:19:22 <jmiranda> and i thought paul was confusing me with hamish
11:19:22 <docpaul> "lh: hang on i am being bothered with bullshit"
11:19:25 <docpaul> hehehe
11:19:32 <docpaul> sucks for her today
11:21:08 <jmiranda> i love LH's ... ummm ... extensive use of the english language
11:21:58 <jmiranda> and her honesty
11:22:10 <docpaul> yeah. she rocks
11:23:16 <jmiranda> for example, "your new logo is crap"
11:23:20 <Keelhaul> lol
11:23:50 <Keelhaul> computer-like honesty =)
11:24:11 <docpaul> she's said that from the get go
11:24:20 <docpaul> thinks it looks like everyone else's
11:24:46 <docpaul> i feel as if I've tried to state my case... and i've been overruled... so, this isn't a thing worth bantering over
11:24:47 <jmiranda> which is not a bad criticism
11:24:55 <docpaul> i'd rather save the ammo for more important things
11:25:00 <jmiranda> exactly
11:25:13 <jmiranda> that's what hamish just said on our weekly call
11:27:48 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: could it be that it wont cascade unless i extend the service for Location as well (administrationservice)
11:30:49 <bwolfe> jmiranda: hamish said it wasn't worth bantering with paul, or with lh ?
11:31:05 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: you will need to put logic in to fill in the dateCreated/creator fields
11:31:25 <bwolfe> you can set those before you call the save location
11:31:34 <Keelhaul> that means i'll have to extend all the administration service hiearachy
11:31:38 <jmiranda> bwolfe: just that we've spent a lot of time/effort on the logo already
11:31:54 <Keelhaul> i'll rather wait for locationservice to be put into trunk =P
11:32:30 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: yeah, we're going to change it so that there is a beforeSave(User, Date) method on the pojos (or something similarly named)
11:32:31 <jmiranda> and that there are more important things to do
11:32:40 <bwolfe> this would allow you to override that method to do what you need to do
11:32:57 <Keelhaul> btw, i noticed some daos (location) return the object back after saving, others (encounter) return void
11:32:58 <jmiranda> bwolfe, i missed that conversation
11:33:05 <bwolfe> which logo, the new ubuntu-esque one ?
11:33:12 <jmiranda> yeah
11:33:25 <jmiranda> when did we discuss the beforeSave() method
11:33:46 <bwolfe> not sure
11:33:52 <bwolfe> might have just been darius and I
11:33:55 <bwolfe> maybe MIke
11:34:08 <bwolfe> or Dave
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11:34:14 <bwolfe> one of those two
11:34:43 <jmiranda> is that for setting the created/modified date and user?
11:35:51 <bwolfe> yeah
11:36:29 <bwolfe> its a better way to do the patient/person user/person stuff than how I did it the first time (having patientservice call personservice.setCollectionProperties())
11:37:57 <jmiranda> yeah, i agree
11:39:05 <bwolfe> good, you had me worried for a second
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11:49:20 <r0bby> holy crap all doctors are in except burke
11:49:26 <r0bby> well all devs :P
11:49:32 <r0bby> two docs that i know of :)
11:49:44 <bwolfe> hamish is the only other doc
11:49:51 <bwolfe> I don't think I've ever seen him on
11:49:56 <r0bby> heh
11:49:59 <bwolfe> but there are plenty of devs that are missing :-p
11:50:05 <r0bby> I know =)
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11:50:19 <r0bby> students are getting restless...
11:50:27 <bwolfe> djazayeri, mseaton, dthomas, maros, andreas
11:50:52 <r0bby> heh
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11:56:54 <jmiranda> r0bby, why are students getting restless?
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11:57:39 <r0bby> haven't released the list yet (in less than 2 hrs or so)
11:57:52 <jmiranda> oh right
11:57:54 <jmiranda> that
11:58:51 <jmiranda> i'm kidding ... i'm really excited to get another summer of code underway
11:59:33 <r0bby> :)
11:59:46 * r0bby has hitman on speed dial =)
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12:05:56 <bwolfe> nice
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12:16:10 <eray> bwolfe I think you don't have to let the google to get the honour of announcing the results, you deserves this honour :P
12:16:39 <bwolfe> eray: ahah, good try :-)
12:16:47 <eray> :D
12:19:36 <r0bby> they can't.
12:19:46 <r0bby> lh will have their heads
12:19:51 <r0bby> eray++
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12:21:52 <eray> let's see the rep's :P
12:22:51 <me> hullo
12:24:36 <bwolfe> hi me
12:33:52 <me> whats up, ben
12:34:29 <bwolfe> not much...Ime is it ?
12:34:46 <bwolfe> there aren't too many people that use openmrs in Nigeria... :-)
12:35:18 <me> yep
12:35:23 <me> not much
12:35:36 <me> hey how did u know it was me, Ben?
12:35:52 <bwolfe> did a "/whois me" here in xchat
12:36:03 <bwolfe> then a ip locator lookup on your IP :-)
12:36:03 <me> Ha!!!
12:36:13 <me> Ha!!!
12:36:16 <me> bad guy!
12:36:24 <napi> lol
12:36:41 <[OmegentooX]> Ben is 1337 h4x0r
12:36:48 <me> and you assume there could be no other nigerian?
12:37:05 <me> here?
12:37:13 <bwolfe> its cool, just this morning I set up a "URL Handler" in xchat labeled "IP Locator" that goes to "!firefox 'http://www.ip2location.com/free.asp?ipaddresses=%s'"
12:37:14 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1oyw> (at www.ip2location.com)
12:37:28 <bwolfe> your (approx) location is only a right-click away for me :-)
12:37:54 <me> really?
12:38:31 <bwolfe> me: I try to find out where all of our new visitors were from during GSOC signup...no one claimed to be from nigeria. :-)
12:39:08 <me> oh! Maybe next time.
12:41:30 <bwolfe> maybe
12:41:41 <bwolfe> you need to promote it a little more next year to your countrymen!
12:41:55 <me> so, whats up with the xforms stuff, Ben
12:42:25 <me> yap, I will
12:42:32 <bwolfe> me: in fact, according to official google stats, there were only 3 nigerian apps (out of 7000 apps)
12:42:34 <me> so how do you handle anonymous ips
12:42:46 <bwolfe> I ask :-)
12:42:57 <bwolfe> I don't know where the xforms stuff is right now
12:43:51 <me> cos I need to know where I can hook up my project, please
12:45:23 <eray> bwolfe: how many slot does openmrs have this year, can you give this info or it is confidential :):):)
12:46:14 <bwolfe> also confidential eray. sorry :-/
12:46:20 <bwolfe> eray: you'll know soon enough
12:46:30 <me> hmmm
12:46:38 <Keelhaul> as many slots as you have coins ;]
12:46:43 <bwolfe> me: have you been following the xformsorbeon project?
12:46:48 <bwolfe> heh
12:47:09 <me> depending on the kinda coins
12:47:13 <me> yep!
12:47:22 <me> I've been following it
12:47:31 <me> from afar
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13:05:08 <nribeka> 55 minutes and counting ...
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13:28:29 <Keelhaul> hmm
13:28:45 <Keelhaul> say i want to add child encounters to a parent encounter
13:29:00 <Keelhaul> and the child encounter's encounterDatetime happens to lie before the parent's
13:29:07 <Keelhaul> and i want ot prevent that
13:29:37 <Keelhaul> should i throw an exception while saving and/or prevent addChildEncounter right in the object?
13:29:45 <bwolfe> probably both :-p
13:29:48 <Keelhaul> ok
13:40:24 <bwolfe> uh oh: mlankhorst has changed the topic to: There is a delay, a matter of an hour or two - Free kick/mute for
13:42:26 <r0bby> this is annoying
13:42:35 <r0bby> :(
13:42:41 <bwolfe> the delay?
13:42:59 <bwolfe> c'mon...you couldn't seriously think they would /actually/ be ready at 12PDT, did you ??
13:43:46 <r0bby> I'm naive
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13:58:35 <napi> heh
13:58:38 <napi> gsoc chan is going mental
14:01:06 <r0bby> napi: no shit
14:01:22 <r0bby> the list finally quieted down after i redirected people to irc
14:01:35 <r0bby> i woke up to read messages about the weather in Beijing
14:02:27 <jmiranda> apparently the delay is because ohloh didn't assign mentors :)
14:02:39 <jmiranda> (according to leslie)
14:03:17 <jmiranda> r0bby, you better call your hitman back and give him the new coordinates
14:03:30 <nribeka> but the delay is not 12 days right, jmiranda?
14:03:33 <nribeka> :D
14:03:37 <jmiranda> no :)
14:03:42 <r0bby> ohloh?
14:03:44 <jmiranda> that was a terrible joke
14:03:54 <r0bby> jmiranda: nah
14:04:01 <napi> play some typeracer to pass the time
14:04:06 <napi> I'm currently top of the table \o/ matt - 107 wpm
14:04:16 <r0bby> I can still get google swag and i fully intend to follow through on my promise w/ paul and burke
14:04:57 <napi> mwahaha 114 wpm
14:05:49 <r0bby> napi: holy shit you're right
14:06:05 <r0bby> im watching law and order
14:06:17 <r0bby> I gotta shower got a chiropreactor appt @ 5pm
14:06:46 <r0bby> and i need it
14:07:07 <r0bby> finally
14:07:11 <r0bby> +m'd
14:08:04 <napi> aaaaah 124 wpm when it updates the high score table
14:09:16 <r0bby> oh boy
14:11:26 * napi is slowly taking over the scoreboard
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14:16:43 <r0bby> holy crap
14:17:02 <napi> ?
14:17:13 <r0bby> they are insane
14:38:47 <bwolfe> results are out
14:41:28 <r0bby> I got accepted!!!!
14:41:29 <r0bby> !
14:41:50 <nribeka> no email to me
14:41:51 <Keelhaul> congrats
14:41:58 <nribeka> i guess i'm out then :(
14:42:13 <Keelhaul> so who makes the final decisions
14:42:26 <r0bby> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/openmrs/about.html
14:42:27 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1p1F> (at code.google.com)
14:42:50 <nribeka> wow my name is there ...
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14:42:59 <nribeka> hoorraayyy ...
14:43:03 <bwolfe> emails are slow
14:43:07 <bwolfe> and sometime inaccurate
14:43:15 * r0bby dances
14:43:17 <bwolfe> (so sayeth lh on #gsoc)
14:44:13 <r0bby> napi you're accepted too
14:44:14 <r0bby> i thin
14:44:30 <r0bby> you're Matthew SHanks right?>
14:45:14 <napi> yeah
14:45:15 <napi> results are up? :D
14:46:00 <jmiranda> if you thought the gsoc channel was going crazy before ...
14:46:07 <napi> awesome
14:46:09 <napi> congrats r0bby
14:46:10 <napi> :D
14:46:20 <nribeka> congrats robby and napi :D
14:46:25 <napi> thanks
14:46:27 <napi> you too :D
14:46:37 * nribeka is calling his hitmen back to base
14:46:42 <napi> lol
14:46:43 <nribeka> thanks
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14:49:03 <TorLye> Yay, I'm in! Thanks guys.
14:50:44 <napi> Wheres this list of names?
14:50:52 <Keelhaul> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/openmrs/about.html
14:50:59 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1p1F> (at code.google.com)
14:50:59 <napi> ah cool
14:51:00 <napi> ta
14:53:52 * r0bby now has erm .. no free time :)
14:54:03 <r0bby> cept i'm going to atlantic city on thursday :)
14:55:44 <nribeka> congrats TorLye
14:55:47 <r0bby> http://planet-soc.com/
14:55:49 <r0bby> go register
14:55:53 <r0bby> :DDD
14:56:20 * r0bby sets up a seperate blog
14:56:45 <Keelhaul> blogging is overrated
14:57:05 <bwolfe> r0bby: you can be aggregated via tagging...might as well just use your same one
14:57:39 <bwolfe> we'll integrate your blog into feed.openmrs.org based on the "openmrs" tag...no reason planet-soc couldn't do it on "gsoc" or "soc"
14:58:08 <r0bby> I don't feel like blogging in it as i'm aggregated
14:58:14 <r0bby> so just use this one
14:58:16 <r0bby> http://robbysoc.blogspot.com/
15:01:20 <bwolfe> r0bby: I don't understand. you don't want openmrs people to see your other posts, or you don't want other people to see your openmrs ones?
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15:03:36 <r0bby> the latter
15:03:39 <r0bby> ah
15:03:44 <r0bby> screw it
15:03:52 * r0bby deletes new blog
15:04:33 <r0bby> deleted.
15:04:41 <Keelhaul> your email address is posted on your blog =o
15:05:24 <r0bby> Keelhaul: yes -- as all code i posted uses a prototype compiler
15:05:50 <r0bby> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com/
15:05:57 <r0bby> keep it at that bwolfe -- good pt
15:06:03 <nribeka> i blog but doesn't use english ...
15:06:10 <nribeka> so will set up a new one :D
15:06:43 <bwolfe> nribeka: you could just double-blog it :-)
15:06:53 <bwolfe> surely someone has solved the language thing with blogs
15:07:25 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: eh, its a gmail account...hardly anything gets through their spam filters :-)
15:07:30 <nribeka> yeah, i seen that kind of blog once ... but have no idea how to do that ...
15:07:35 <Keelhaul> o
15:08:24 <Keelhaul> !gsoctimeline
15:08:24 <OpenMRSBot> Keelhaul: "gsoctimeline" --- http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline
15:08:50 <Keelhaul> scummvm only got 6 ppl
15:09:29 <napi> if any one needs webspace for blog/files or something give me a shout - got plenty on my server
15:10:52 <bwolfe> well, nribeka, you have a few weeks to figure it out
15:11:03 <bwolfe> surely wordpress has something
15:12:52 <eray> !boom
15:12:52 <OpenMRSBot> eray: "boom" --- BOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:13:21 <bwolfe> nribeka: http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/09/10/blogging-in-more-than-one-language/
15:13:22 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1p20> (at lorelle.wordpress.com)
15:13:23 <napi> lol
15:13:46 <r0bby> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com/2008/04/accepted-to-google-summer-of-code.html
15:13:46 <bwolfe> looks complicated to do
15:13:47 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1p22> (at robbyoconnor.blogspot.com)
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15:16:41 <nribeka> thanks bwolfe
15:16:42 <nribeka> :D
15:20:00 <nribeka> my blog is in wordpress.com so i can't add custom plugins :(
15:20:18 <napi> gotta love a site that required microsoft silverlight... i install it.. .but it still says I need to install it lol
15:20:19 <bwolfe> nribeka: time to move the blog! :-)
15:21:29 <nribeka> bwolfe: i guess so. one of my friend offer me to move my blog to his server :P
15:21:37 <nribeka> i guess i'll take that offer :D
15:21:41 <nribeka> napi: lolz ...
15:22:01 <napi> :)
15:22:04 <napi> sure
15:22:43 <nribeka> never trust microsoft but i'm still stuck with it
15:23:10 <r0bby> bwolfe: not that bad
15:23:24 <r0bby> MarkupBuilder will generate the html pretty sweetly :)
15:23:35 <bwolfe> whats not that bad ?
15:23:39 <bwolfe> the plugin?
15:23:46 <r0bby> the plugin
15:27:15 <bwolfe> r0bby: well good, napi won't mind installing it for nribeka then. :-)
15:27:54 <r0bby> I also wanna learn how to write a builder but that goes on the back burner til i figure how how the _HELL_ to learn this MASSIVE api
15:27:56 <bwolfe> ...and if he isn't willing, I also am willing to host for anyone that needs some space
15:28:16 <bwolfe> its not that big...
15:28:26 <r0bby> yeh yeh
15:28:30 <napi> happy to install most things on the server tbh
15:29:08 <nribeka> hehe ... i still couldn't believe i'm accepted :P
15:30:14 <r0bby> What did i get myself into!
15:30:15 <r0bby> lol
15:30:26 <Keelhaul> i put in i a good word for each of you and was promised half of your money in return.
15:30:53 <nribeka> lolz ...
15:31:07 <r0bby> Keelhaul: nice try
15:31:15 <r0bby> good try
15:32:31 <r0bby> bwolfe: also I'll prolly run tomcat semi-permanently throughout the summer
15:32:51 <r0bby> burke++
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15:32:57 <r0bby> for doing the leg work
15:33:07 <nribeka> will replace vista with ubuntu over the weekend haha :D
15:33:15 <bwolfe> heh
15:33:24 <bwolfe> r0bby: to be expected. :-)
15:33:41 <bwolfe> I run tomcat 6.5 days out of the week on average :-)
15:33:54 <r0bby> bmckown: << accepted
15:33:59 <r0bby> as was napi and TorLye
15:34:09 <r0bby> nt sure about the others
15:34:13 <bmckown> Yeah!
15:34:30 <r0bby> just be glad you're not my mentor
15:34:35 <r0bby> I have adhd :D
15:34:45 <bmckown> I'm glad I'm not my mentor, too.
15:34:50 <Keelhaul> you need adderall
15:36:05 <r0bby> Keelhaul: nah
15:36:36 <r0bby> what the hell did i do to my back
15:39:32 <bwolfe> I feel sorry for Upul. His mentor is the worst.
15:39:37 <Keelhaul> broke it
15:40:39 <bwolfe> bmckown: how was the dentist?
15:40:56 <bmckown> Man, it took two hours.
15:41:06 <bmckown> My mout id num
15:41:49 <bmckown> I cannod tok vewy well
15:42:42 <bmckown> Hey, it looks like there are irc chats for adhd.
15:44:18 <bwolfe> haha
15:44:47 <nribeka> haha
15:45:49 <nribeka> bwolfe: upul got the update project :D
15:46:23 <docpaul> :)
15:46:30 <docpaul> congratulations all. :)
15:46:52 <docpaul> we increased our students by 10% this year
15:46:57 <nribeka> thanks docpaul
15:46:59 <docpaul> i think that works out well for all of us
15:47:16 <docpaul> 11 students is a nice pull, and a great nod towards OpenMRS
15:48:59 * nribeka disband his hitmen squad
15:49:11 <atomicturtle> did they gain weight?
15:50:39 <upul> it's around 2.30 in the morning. I going off now.
15:51:02 <upul> thanks ben :-)
15:51:02 <upul> see you tomorrow, hopefully
15:51:06 <upul> bye all
15:51:06 <nribeka> atomicturtle: who gain weight?
15:51:12 <nribeka> bye upul
15:51:15 <bwolfe> cya upul
15:51:51 <atomicturtle> he said he increased the students by 10%. I just assumed paul ment by total volume
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15:52:21 <bwolfe> atomicturtle: I dunno, we had some pretty skinny students last year
15:54:28 <bmckown_> the madwifi driver on atheros ar5418 still has a few bugs I guess. lost connection.
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16:20:04 <Keelhaul> hmm
16:20:12 <Keelhaul> boolean cols cant be nullable?
16:22:03 <bmckown> correct
16:22:21 <Keelhaul> that is unfortunate
16:22:52 <bmckown> getThings(thingId, null, null, null, null, false);
16:23:00 <bmckown> that's pretty much what ya have to do.
16:23:03 <Keelhaul> i'm adding that col to an existing table
16:23:14 <Keelhaul> so i hope it doesnt render unaltered records useless
16:23:24 <Keelhaul> does the default value propagate to all existing records?
16:23:38 <bmckown> I was looking at it from the Service layer point of view. A little inconvenient I suppose.
16:24:08 <bmckown> ahhh, I don't remember.
16:24:49 <bmckown> A fix to that is not to use boolean, but tinyint, or a Concept
16:26:14 <Keelhaul> well tinyint is what mysql uses anyway
16:26:27 <bmckown> ah, yes that's right.
16:26:46 <Keelhaul> if i use a concept or encountertype as i originally wanted, how would i reference it
16:26:57 <Keelhaul> the same item could have a different id on different installations
16:27:40 <bmckown> We had an idea of eventually replacing booleans with Concepts I thought, so that the obs.value_coded would be the answer and you could make it YES, NO, MAYBE, TRUE, FALSE whatever you want.
16:27:59 <Keelhaul> ah
16:28:19 <bmckown> With the OpenMRS Concept Cooperative, the idea is that we would all share a concept like TRUE and FALSE, etc.
16:28:51 <bwolfe> bmckown: that statement is both TRUE and FALSE
16:29:25 <bmckown> help me some, bwolfe please on that.
16:29:41 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #694 (task closed): Super minor change to ObsServiceTest <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/694#comment:1> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #695 (task created): Super minor change to ObsServiceTest <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/695> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #694 (task created): Super minor change to ObsServiceTest <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/694>
16:29:45 <bwolfe> the occ is meant to be more of a place where people can go and find pre-made concepts...so that they don't have to do all of the mapping themselves
16:30:13 <bwolfe> different implementations will still have different concept_ids for the "same" concept in a different installation
16:30:21 <bmckown> I see Concepts in the dictionary for YES and NO, not for TRUE or FALSE.
16:30:56 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: the way we've "solved" the issue is to use a global property
16:31:09 <bwolfe> there are a few "concept.___" GPs already
16:32:19 <Keelhaul> i need a per-record true/false
16:32:22 <Keelhaul> not global =(
16:32:43 <bwolfe> right
16:33:04 <bwolfe> well, you probably want to do a tinyint as the column
16:33:19 <bwolfe> if you have a DEFAULT '0' in your sql it will backfill all current rows
16:33:32 <Keelhaul> ok
16:34:13 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: and to clear things up, the GP for, say, concept.true would just store the current installations concept_id for the "true" concept. you would then use that to lookup other things
16:34:35 <bwolfe> the column is then a foreign key to the concept.concept_id column
16:34:46 <bwolfe> and programatically you can set the concept_id
16:35:20 <bwolfe> bmckown: I'm hoping I can convince Upul to work on the boolean project. :-)
16:35:28 <Keelhaul> lol
16:37:14 <bwolfe> bmckown: the remoteformentry bug was a OOM exception :-/
16:37:27 <bwolfe> it was just being buried because of how I was returning the zip file
16:37:50 <bwolfe> now I need to figure out how to zip up all of the files in a more memory-conscious way...
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16:40:54 <bmckown_> argh. blasted wireless driver!
16:41:02 <bmckown_> using cable now.
16:42:02 <bmckown_> is anybody there?
16:42:10 <jmiranda> no
16:42:20 <bmckown_> anybody except justin?
16:43:44 <bwolfe> no
16:44:07 <bmckown_> you found the solution to the remoteformentry error!
16:44:18 <bmckown_> that's great news.
16:46:07 <jmiranda> bwolfe: who is bmckown_ ?
16:46:18 <bmckown_> moo
16:46:51 <bwolfe> jmiranda: I dunno...
16:47:02 <jmiranda> oh, brian ... sorry didn't recognize you with that underscore
16:47:21 <bmckown_> :-) haha.
16:47:41 <bwolfe> !moo
16:47:41 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "moo" --- MOOOOOOO!!!!!
16:47:44 <bmckown_> just wait till the dark side bmckown gets kicked off.
16:48:07 <bwolfe> bmckown_: you haven't registered both nicks?
16:48:17 <bmckown_> I guess I should have, huh?
16:48:25 <bwolfe> if so, you can use /ghost bmckown <password> to kill the other one off
16:48:32 <bwolfe> !privatemessage
16:48:32 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "privatemessage" --- In order to send private messages on Freenode you must register. Type /msg nickserv register to learn how
16:49:01 <bwolfe> hmm, not as helpful as I was hoping
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16:49:12 <bwolfe> I don't remember how to do it :-p
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16:50:15 <bmckown> :-)
16:51:36 <bwolfe> success!
16:52:27 <bmckown> yes
16:54:38 <r0bby> [OmegentooX]: ping did you get accepted
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17:16:19 <napi> just done 2 hours of insanely good work
17:16:23 <napi> so easy to concentrate now gsoc is sorted
17:24:58 <napi> righty
17:33:49 <r0bby> okay so what's next
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17:34:02 <OpenMRSBot> Hey there Ben!
17:34:54 <r0bby> hey ben :)
17:36:19 <bwolfe> hey r0bby
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17:50:10 <r0bby> what do i do now :x
17:52:09 <napi> my java coursework? :p
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17:55:09 <r0bby> bah i finished all that :)
17:56:35 <napi> lies
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18:10:43 <r0bby> napi: i did
18:11:00 <r0bby> even my computer architecture course (x86 assembly using Masm)
18:11:11 <napi> you did my java coursework? :o
18:11:18 <r0bby> no
18:11:21 <napi> lol
18:11:23 <r0bby> i've done the course :)
18:11:32 <napi> feel free to do mine if you're bored
18:11:35 <napi> won't take more than 2-3 days
18:11:44 <r0bby> i'm bored -- but im not that bored :)
18:11:45 <napi> :-)
18:11:50 <napi> it'll be good practice for you
18:11:51 <napi> lol
18:16:07 <r0bby> what kind of project (I won't do it out of principle)
18:19:25 <napi> haha :p
18:19:43 <napi> think I've shown you it before
18:19:43 <napi> http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~nxk/TEACHING/G53BIO/Coursework2007-2008.htm
18:19:44 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jdX> (at www.cs.nott.ac.uk)
18:20:52 <napi> (without meaning to sound rude, but couldn't give a damn if you do it or not tbh. :p gone through all my education doing my own work - don't see why i'd change at the very end)
18:28:19 <napi> well... yeah... that shut you up :p
18:31:12 <r0bby> good :)
18:31:20 <r0bby> that's a GREAT attitude to hve :)
18:31:36 <r0bby> &barf
18:31:38 <r0bby> applets?!?!!
18:32:01 <r0bby> id never do this because i *HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE* swing.
18:32:06 <napi> pos coursework
18:32:07 <napi> i know
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19:02:57 <r0bby> LOL@ my parents
19:04:00 <Keelhaul> indeed
19:04:03 <Keelhaul> =P
19:04:14 <r0bby> told my father -- he calls my grandmother
19:14:02 <napi> lol
19:14:25 <napi> told my mum, she said "so you'll be paying rent when you come home over the summer now that you've got a job? excellent" :(
19:16:32 <Keelhaul> =o
19:16:49 <Keelhaul> tell them you're gonna dump them in the cheapest retirement home
19:16:58 <napi> hmm. looks like I'm going to have 1 unread in my inbox non-stop for next few days while ~700 people respond to the "introduce" yourself email lol
19:24:26 <bwolfe> yeah, they had a similarly annoying email on the mentors list
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19:26:12 <bwolfe> hey there farhat
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19:29:48 <Keelhaul> hm
19:30:04 <Keelhaul> innodb is really unforgiving when you try to drop anything
19:32:23 <bwolfe> how so?
19:32:53 <Keelhaul> #1025 - Error on rename of '.\openmrs\#sql-d5c_8c6' to '.\openmrs\inpatientcare_room' (errno: 150)
19:33:04 <Keelhaul> i get that if i try to drop any field with a contstraint, or the constraint itself
19:33:42 <bwolfe> right
19:33:48 <farhat> yes
19:33:52 <farhat> i m dissappointed
19:33:53 <bwolfe> you can turn off contraints
19:34:43 * napi gives farhat a cookie
19:34:43 <bwolfe> farhat: yeah, did you get accepted with another project?
19:34:51 <farhat> nope
19:35:37 <farhat> i am confused
19:36:03 <farhat> are all these accepted projects http://code.google.com/soc/2008/openmrs/about.html
19:36:03 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1p1F> (at code.google.com)
19:36:48 <napi> farhat; yes
19:37:09 <bwolfe> yeah, we were given 11 slots/students this year
19:37:34 <farhat> congs to everyone,though its difficult to identify by your virtual names,who is who?
19:37:34 <r0bby> jj
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19:38:11 <matts> every sodding name I try to use is reserved already. so annoying
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19:38:17 <shanks> fgs
19:38:30 <bwolfe> shanks: why use napi?
19:38:34 <bwolfe> fgs?
19:38:40 <shanks> fgs = for god's sake
19:39:01 <shanks> napi is an old alias - I hadn't used irc for ~5 years before the gsoc application
19:39:06 <shanks> was just the name in the conf files lol
19:39:07 <r0bby> time to filter out these messages on gmail's side
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19:40:34 <bwolfe> farhat: the boolean project was not given out as a project, so if you still want to do that, you can get google swag (taken from #gsoc's /topic)
19:41:46 <farhat> what is that
19:41:49 <r0bby> voila noise reduced :)
19:42:26 <bwolfe> google stuff
19:42:35 <bwolfe> shirts, books, posters, etc
19:42:44 <bwolfe> usually a shirt and a book
19:42:47 <r0bby> I just created a gmail filter
19:43:03 <farhat> ben: I will send you an email
19:43:32 <bwolfe> r0bby: do you use the gmail webapp ?
19:43:38 <bwolfe> I so much prefer using an email client...
19:45:12 <bwolfe> farhat: theres also the irc private messaging option
19:45:15 <bwolfe> !privatemessage
19:45:15 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "privatemessage" --- In order to send private messages on Freenode you must register. Type /msg nickserv register to learn how
19:45:41 <bwolfe> use "/msg bwolfe you smell like funky cheese"
19:47:06 <r0bby> bwolfe: no
19:47:38 <r0bby> bwolfe: i did it on the gmail side because i can bypass archiving.
19:47:50 <r0bby> they DO have a quota -- it just happens to be huge
19:49:30 <farhat> Congs to everyone who got selsected..please identify your virtual name..
19:51:26 <r0bby> on the
19:51:29 <r0bby> I'm Robby O
19:51:34 <r0bby> Robby O'Connor
19:53:16 <napi> I'm Matt S
19:53:18 <napi> Matt Shanks
19:53:24 * napi slaps r0bby
19:53:44 <r0bby> I'm Robert Michael O'Connor -- i never use my full name on the lists I'm Robby O'Connor
19:53:58 <farhat> coongs robby and matt
19:54:23 <r0bby> you want SSN too? I can give that? But be forewarned i have like NO assets
19:54:31 <napi> SSN = ?
19:54:35 <napi> thanks farhat
19:54:38 <r0bby> social security number
19:54:42 <napi> and sorry you didn't get in mate
19:54:44 <r0bby> universal identifier in the US
19:54:53 <napi> did you apply for any others apart from the openmrs one?
19:55:00 <farhat> napi what approach are u going to take..would u mind shating your detailed proposal..I am interested..
19:55:11 <r0bby> farhat: dude still do it if your project isn't taken
19:55:17 <napi> umm sure :)
19:55:19 <farhat> no I DIDNT..i had only one application in..
19:55:28 <r0bby> or even do it just for the reward of making a difference
19:55:34 <r0bby> find something else :)
19:55:42 <farhat> how do I find osmetihng else
19:55:50 <napi> First couple of weeks will be making a questionaire type thing to hand out to all the old devs + new ones
19:55:52 <r0bby> !projects
19:55:52 <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org
19:56:00 <r0bby> those are available
19:56:10 <napi> and while I'm waiting for responses to that, will get on with setting up the installs with some of the plugins pre-configured
19:56:20 <r0bby> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/openmrs/about.html
19:56:20 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1p1F> (at code.google.com)
19:56:25 <r0bby> cross check with that
19:56:30 <napi> after 2 weeks, will hit the eclipse plugin hard, then when thats finished go back to configuring the rest of the plugins
19:56:44 <r0bby> napi: you're doing the eclipse plugin?
19:56:47 <napi> ja
19:56:50 <napi> development studio
19:56:52 <r0bby> fun :)
19:56:57 * r0bby doesn't use eclipse
19:57:09 <r0bby> I'm one of the minority using IDEA
19:57:12 <napi> doesn't really matter
19:57:19 <r0bby> I <3 it
19:57:22 <bwolfe> a minority of one, that I know of r0bby :-)
19:57:25 <napi> just so you know, I'm going to be pestering you a LOT over the first couple of weeks btw
19:57:30 <napi> as you're one of the other 'new developers' :p
19:57:36 <farhat> robby i sened u a pm
19:57:50 <napi> "developers" just meaning some one adding new stuff to openmrs
19:57:55 <r0bby> talk here
19:58:16 <r0bby> farhat: you can still get some google 'swag'
19:58:21 <r0bby> you just won't get paid
19:58:31 <farhat> wha is google swag,link please
19:59:09 <r0bby> farhat: t-shirts, books, stickers, etc
19:59:37 <napi> when it's done you can also ask the org for a reference you can hang on to for future job applications
20:00:04 <r0bby> I'm hoping to work for OpenMRS :)
20:00:16 <bwolfe> farhat: swag is on thephpjedi.com
20:00:17 <bwolfe> http://thephpjedi.com/
20:00:24 <bwolfe> click the "swag" link
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20:00:50 <bwolfe> farhat: "swag" is english slang for "stuff"
20:01:40 <napi> where in america do you lot live?
20:01:59 <napi> http://albums.kimag.es/albums/thephpjedi/82124385.jpg <-- love that one
20:02:00 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1p7j> (at albums.kimag.es)
20:02:24 <farhat> ben did u get my email
20:03:35 <bwolfe> yep
20:03:56 <bwolfe> haha, napi, my wife is wearing that shirt right now :-)
20:04:02 <napi> lol nice
20:04:08 <napi> give her a high five from me :p
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20:06:03 <nribeka> can we have google's swag too?
20:06:21 <r0bby> if you were accepted to google soc :)
20:06:30 <r0bby> we're gonna work our asses off for it
20:06:55 <nribeka> i want one too
20:07:24 <r0bby> sucks to be you :)
20:07:33 <r0bby> I'll take pictures :)
20:08:21 <nribeka> haha ... got tons of email here ...
20:09:27 <maveriick> congratualtions to all who are accepted here.
20:09:47 <farhat> virtual name > Mohammad Shahiduzzaman
20:09:48 <r0bby> you didn't?
20:09:49 <r0bby> :X
20:10:01 <r0bby> that's your real name :P
20:10:25 <farhat> whose virtual name is > Mohammad Shahiduzzaman
20:10:36 <maveriick> maveriick: mine is :)
20:10:37 <r0bby> oh
20:10:43 <farhat> congs to you
20:10:50 <r0bby> congrats
20:10:54 <r0bby> :)
20:10:59 * r0bby is excited today
20:11:01 <r0bby> :)
20:11:04 <farhat> mavriick where r u located?
20:11:31 <maveriick> Bangladesh
20:12:03 <maveriick> farhat: and your name?
20:13:38 <farhat> I am farhat
20:14:11 <farhat> mavriick good for you,I am interested in your approach,would u mind sharing in a m Pm
20:15:23 <Keelhaul> meh
20:15:29 <Keelhaul> mysql has sold out, it seems
20:15:48 <napi> aye
20:16:05 <Keelhaul> i keep looking for the non-enterprise dbms
20:16:09 <Keelhaul> and cant find it
20:16:37 <Keelhaul> ah seems like i found it
20:19:15 <bwolfe> yeah, they make it tough to find :-p
20:21:18 <Keelhaul> i give up =/
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20:21:23 <Keelhaul> it wont let me drop keys
20:21:25 <Keelhaul> or rows
20:21:32 <Keelhaul> er cols*
20:27:44 <bwolfe> set foreign_key_checks=0
20:28:43 <Keelhaul> yep, tried that already
20:28:45 <Keelhaul> didnt help
20:28:47 <bwolfe> ?
20:28:49 <bwolfe> really??
20:29:11 <Keelhaul> it gives me a rename error
20:29:15 <bwolfe> odd
20:29:23 <Keelhaul> SQL query:
20:29:23 <Keelhaul> ALTER TABLE `inpatientcare_room` DROP `location_id`
20:29:24 <Keelhaul> MySQL said: Documentation
20:29:24 <Keelhaul> #1025 - Error on rename of '.\openmrs\#sql-d5c_9dc' to '.\openmrs\inpatientcare_room' (errno: 150)
20:29:25 <bwolfe> are you using mysql command line, or something else?
20:29:29 <Keelhaul> phpmyadmin
20:29:35 <bwolfe> I see
20:30:03 <bwolfe> do a "describe inpatientcare_room"
20:30:13 <bwolfe> what indexes/keys do you have on location_id ?
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20:30:54 <Keelhaul> i constraint on location.location_id originally
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20:31:36 <Keelhaul> location_id int(11) YES MUL NULL
20:33:03 <Keelhaul> lolz
20:33:09 <Keelhaul> to hell with phpmyadmin i guess
20:33:24 <Keelhaul> disabling foreign key checks and dropping the table worked fine in cmd line
20:34:42 <farhat> keelhaul> I downloaded dbisualiser to quickly look up all indexes etc.u can get a free copy on the web
20:34:50 <farhat> dbvisualiser
20:35:12 <farhat> it comes built in with mysql driver
20:35:25 <Keelhaul> thx
20:35:29 <Keelhaul> i'm downloading
20:35:32 <Keelhaul> will check it out later
20:35:33 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: there are plenty of things better than phpmyadmin
20:35:37 <bwolfe> mysql command line is one of them :-)
20:35:48 <Keelhaul> i'm not a big fan of anything console based
20:35:57 <farhat> I agree with ben,if u like the console
20:36:14 <bwolfe> toad is a good one
20:36:25 <farhat> dbvisualiser is drag and drop
20:36:31 <bwolfe> the new mysql gui tools looks like (saw a very brief demo of it at the conf)
20:36:41 <farhat> toad is not free though
20:36:45 <bwolfe> we use navicat
20:36:54 <bwolfe> burke bought a license...but the free one is good enough for me
20:37:11 <bwolfe> I thought toad was free. hmm
20:37:45 <bwolfe> http://toadsoft.com/toadmysql/Overview.htm
20:37:49 <Keelhaul> navicat costs money too
20:38:07 <bwolfe> toad looks to be freeware...although when I last used it, it had a slow startup
20:38:16 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: there is a free version of navicat
20:38:19 <Keelhaul> o
20:38:20 <Keelhaul> btw
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20:38:32 <nribeka> nope
20:38:33 <Keelhaul> i decided to drop the idea of locations being direct children of locations
20:38:38 <sunbiz> hey guys!
20:38:38 <nribeka> toad is not free ...
20:38:39 <Keelhaul> i tihnk it caused problems with hibernate
20:38:46 <nribeka> hey sunbiz
20:38:48 <Keelhaul> hi
20:39:00 <sunbiz> congrats to all guys who got through
20:39:01 <Keelhaul> err -locations +rooms
20:39:28 <bwolfe> nribeka: I'm going to have to disagree. :-) "" Toad for MySQL is an official Quest Software Inc. Freeware Product. Click on the button below to download a copy. ""
20:39:46 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: so are you going with a dummy department then ?
20:40:05 <Keelhaul> yea
20:40:10 <Keelhaul> "(default department)"
20:40:26 <Keelhaul> for some reason, it did find rooms hanging directly on a loc
20:40:29 <nribeka> really bwolfe?
20:40:34 <Keelhaul> but not those being children of departments
20:40:35 <sunbiz> hi bmckown... u r my mentor !!
20:40:40 <nribeka> i didn't know about the mysql
20:40:40 <sunbiz> :)
20:40:54 <nribeka> i usually use toad for oracle hehe :D
20:41:03 <bmckown> hey, sunbiz! Congratulations!
20:41:11 <Keelhaul> what i like about phpmyadmin is that it just sits on my webserver
20:41:15 <Keelhaul> and i dont have to install it
20:41:17 <bmckown> Haven't seen you around in awhile.
20:41:31 <sunbiz> yea... dissertation and practicals going on
20:41:51 <bmckown> ooh. pretty busy.
20:41:59 <sunbiz> but I've been looking at the IRC logs
20:42:07 <sunbiz> and the changesets all the time
20:42:39 <bmckown> Okay. That's good. I look forward to working with you. I think this is going to be a great project and you are going to do very well.
20:42:48 <sunbiz> I didn't even rememebr the date for the announcement
20:42:53 <bmckown> Today.
20:43:00 * r0bby got accepted.
20:43:07 <sunbiz> the inbox was a lot of mails about GSoC and I realized they must have announced
20:43:25 <bmckown> Yes. :-)
20:43:27 <r0bby> sunbiz: did you get accepted
20:43:29 <sunbiz> saw r0bby's mail about keeping the noise down ;)
20:43:45 <bmckown> I missed that one.
20:44:08 <r0bby> sunbiz: it cut down on the noise for me :)
20:44:11 <sunbiz> I did get accepted or someone subscribed me to the Google Groups ;)
20:44:18 <r0bby> bypasses my inbox :)
20:44:22 <r0bby> gmail really is kickass.
20:44:25 <sunbiz> yea... I did that
20:44:42 <bwolfe> just change your subscription to a "daily digest"
20:44:46 <r0bby> imagine 1,125 students ALL introducing themselbes
20:44:50 <r0bby> bwolfe: no
20:44:52 <r0bby> too lazy
20:44:56 <sunbiz> quite a lot of the people I knw got selected
20:45:00 <bwolfe> then you just get an email once a day that says "x number of people sent mail to this subject"
20:45:14 <bwolfe> r0bby: ha, it would have taken less time than setting up a filter :-p
20:45:24 <sunbiz> really 1125 isn't a lot and it felt like the world's not a big place
20:45:25 <r0bby> bwolfe: bah the filter works
20:46:36 <Keelhaul> keeping up with the rss feed is half a day's work
20:46:47 <Keelhaul> still got 94 unread
20:48:24 <r0bby> I dont keep up i read what interests me :)
20:48:55 <r0bby> i don't read half the blog posts i'm subscribed to
20:49:03 <Keelhaul> i look for relevant stuff in everything
20:49:44 <bwolfe> what what you're saying r0bby and Keelhaul, is that if it doesn't saw "wolfe", you don't read it? ;-)
20:49:53 <Keelhaul> lol
20:50:18 <r0bby> I'm not interested in your work bwolfe
20:50:26 <r0bby> pfft
20:50:42 <r0bby> I sometimes read the changesets if i'm bored enough
20:50:51 <r0bby> but I *WILL* follow the gsoc and intern list
20:51:48 <bmckown> r0bby changes his nick to gr0bby because he likes groovy so much
20:51:55 <Keelhaul> ok hibernate is magic
20:52:05 <Keelhaul> and any attempt to customize setters and getters will break something
20:52:05 <Keelhaul> =/
20:52:15 <r0bby> Keelhaul: and spring too, don't forget about spring
20:52:20 <Keelhaul> yea
20:52:54 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: thats not a hard and fast rule
20:53:02 <bwolfe> you can tell hibernate to not go through the getters/setters
20:53:07 <Keelhaul> hm
20:53:10 <bwolfe> by changing a setting in the mapping file
20:53:14 <Keelhaul> o
20:53:22 <Keelhaul> well
20:53:23 <sunbiz> when do we get subscribed to OpenMRS mailing list ??
20:53:34 <bwolfe> sunbiz: are you on dev and impl already ?
20:53:49 <Keelhaul> in the latest case, it seems to initialize a set of child encounters, even though the encounter from the db doesnt have any children
20:53:53 <bwolfe> burke will put the students on the students one at some point tomorrow or wednesday
20:53:54 * r0bby coughannotationscough
20:53:58 <Keelhaul> so te set wasnt null and everything went nuts
20:54:25 * bwolfe coughIliketohavemorecontroloverthemappingfilesthanwhattheannotationsgivemecough
20:54:28 <sunbiz> bwolfe: no
20:54:32 <r0bby> bmckown: don't be bitter
20:54:47 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: yeah, I told you that would happen! :-)
20:54:50 <r0bby> the groovy in action book is thick and I throw like a girl
20:54:55 <bmckown> r0bby it was *supposed* to be funny.
20:55:03 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: no you didnt =o
20:55:03 <r0bby> so was that
20:55:04 <r0bby> :)
20:55:12 <bwolfe> people forget I've been toking the hibernate pipe for almost 3 years now :-p
20:55:30 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I most certainly did...I'll find it in the logs for you
20:55:32 <bwolfe> :-)
20:55:40 <r0bby> please I'm in 3 channels now that i take flak daily
20:55:42 <r0bby> =)
20:55:49 <r0bby> I can handle it :)
20:56:50 <Keelhaul> http://rafb.net/p/Cq88Bs82.html
20:56:54 <Keelhaul> something weird going on =o
20:57:16 <Keelhaul> the set is not null, but if i try to check its size(), i get this exception
20:57:50 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: looks like an hql error
20:57:57 <bmckown> encounter_datetime?
20:57:58 <bwolfe> whats your hql or criteria statement(s) ?
20:58:04 <bmckown> instead of encounterdatetime
20:58:12 <bwolfe> bmckown saw it too :-)
20:58:27 <Keelhaul> encounter_datetime="2008-02-22 22:00:00.0"
20:58:32 <Keelhaul> thats in the db for that encounter
20:58:48 <bwolfe> hql ?
20:59:13 <Keelhaul> where
20:59:55 <bwolfe> I was trying to ask for you hql statement. can you rafb it ?
21:00:16 <Keelhaul> i'm not quite sure what you mean by hql statement =/
21:00:25 <bwolfe> what are you passing to hibernate
21:00:38 <bwolfe> how/when are you getting the error
21:00:58 <bwolfe> hql is hibernate query language. it looks like sql, but it uses the java pojo methods/attributes instead of hte database column names
21:01:20 <Keelhaul> =o
21:01:31 <Keelhaul> hear it for the first time
21:01:43 <Keelhaul> theres no query language i use in particular for this
21:01:57 <Keelhaul> it all originates form an updateEncounter call
21:02:44 <bwolfe> ok Keelhaul, you win. I can't find it in the logs. must have been either another time...or I just said it in my head but then never typed it :-/ (which is /quite/ possible)
21:02:55 <Keelhaul> lol
21:03:36 <bwolfe> well, childencou0_.encounterDatetime is the problem
21:03:39 <Keelhaul> i remember oyu telling me it might cause problems to return an empty set with a getter instead of the actual variable which is null at the given moment
21:03:52 <bwolfe> is that in a mapping file?
21:04:02 <bwolfe> or are you passing that in as an argument to sort on to the method?
21:04:16 <Keelhaul> encounterDatetime is in the original openmrs encounter.hbm.xml
21:04:19 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: yeah, that sort of comment
21:07:49 <nribeka> bwolfe: where can i find the list where openmrs is implemented. i want to write a blog on openmrs but in my native language hehe :D
21:08:35 <bwolfe> there is a page on the wiki...one sec
21:08:37 <Keelhaul> whats your native language
21:09:05 <nribeka> indonesian language. i'm from Bali :D
21:09:11 <sunbiz> cya guys... AI & ImageProcessing practs in 5hrs
21:09:13 <Keelhaul> ah
21:09:21 <Keelhaul> sunbiz: cool
21:09:24 <sunbiz> when do we start coding ??
21:10:02 <nribeka> bye sunbiz
21:10:10 <sunbiz> and what if we finish faster !??
21:10:14 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: if hibernate causes problems with encounters being children of other encounters, then my entire concept will have to be re-invented =/
21:10:17 <sunbiz> do we start only on May26th ??
21:10:28 <bwolfe> sunbiz: that is the "official" start date
21:10:33 <Keelhaul> yea, you dont get to start till it's summer =P
21:10:46 <Keelhaul> hence the SUMMER of code
21:10:46 <bwolfe> we will "allow" you to start early
21:10:46 <Keelhaul> google wants you to sit inside all summer
21:10:55 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: haha
21:10:56 <napi> sod that. out side in the garden on a laptop ^^
21:11:09 <sunbiz> Keelhaul: :D
21:11:30 <bwolfe> if you finish faster, well, 2 extra cookies for you...and your pick of a new project :-)
21:11:31 <nribeka> found it in the faq page :D
21:11:47 <bwolfe> sweet
21:11:47 <sunbiz> bwolfe: grr8888888 !!
21:11:56 <bwolfe> your pages were loading faster than mine apparently
21:12:21 <sunbiz> bwolfe: but make those cookies lite... Im trying to cut my weight!!
21:12:32 <nribeka> sunbiz: haha ...
21:12:34 <bwolfe> sure thing
21:12:42 <bwolfe> made with real splenda
21:12:54 <nribeka> lol
21:12:56 <sunbiz> cya alll...and congrats to everyone!!
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21:35:01 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Announcements List: OpenMRS announces students for Google Summer of Code 2008 <https://listserv.iupui.edu/cgi-bin/wa-iupui.exe?A2=ind0804&L=openmrs-announce-l&P=75>
21:42:17 <Keelhaul> trunk 3981 fails to compile confirm/deny
21:43:17 <bwolfe> is that the latest Keelhaul ?
21:43:23 <bwolfe> !timeline
21:43:23 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "timeline" is not a valid command.
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21:43:32 <Keelhaul> yea
21:43:35 <bwolfe> !learn timeline as http://dev.openmrs.org/timeline
21:43:35 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded.
21:43:45 <Keelhaul> hmm
21:43:51 <Keelhaul> where do the javac logs fo to
21:43:52 <Keelhaul> go*
21:44:35 <bwolfe> hmm
21:44:51 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: what build error are you seeing ?
21:44:56 <bwolfe> javac logs ? what do you mean by those ?
21:45:06 <Keelhaul> BUILD FAILED
21:45:06 <Keelhaul> J:\Workspace\openmrs\build.xml:159: Compile failed; see the compiler error output for details.
21:45:13 <bwolfe> heh
21:45:13 <Keelhaul> it suggest to see the compiler error output
21:45:17 <Keelhaul> i guess there are no logs
21:45:17 <bwolfe> console
21:45:32 <bwolfe> anything in your "problems" tab in eclipse?
21:45:55 <Keelhaul> only warnings
21:46:27 <Keelhaul> http://rafb.net/p/WQOx9053.html
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21:55:32 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: ah...I had thought I fixed those!
21:55:40 <bwolfe> I had...I just hadn;t committed them yet :-p
21:55:45 <bwolfe> committed now :-)
21:55:51 <bwolfe> thanks for the reminder!
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21:59:32 <r0bby> burke_away: o/
22:00:02 <burke> heya r0bby! congratulations!
22:00:08 <r0bby> thanks
22:00:19 <r0bby> you have no idea how happy i was when i saw the page :)
22:00:31 <r0bby> did you guys know or did google have the final say?
22:00:34 <nribeka> thanks everyone :D
22:00:45 <nribeka> thanks burke :D
22:00:58 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: thx for fixing =)
22:00:59 <burke> congrats nribeka!
22:01:32 <burke> r0bby: we had I good idea. but nothing is "for sure" until Google makes the announcement.
22:02:05 <r0bby> =)
22:02:27 <Keelhaul> o hi burke
22:02:32 <burke> I'll be adding students and mentors to our mailing list and sending out some getting-started thoughts soon
22:02:40 <burke> Keelhaul: howdy
22:02:48 <r0bby> i have no clue what to do now
22:03:04 <nribeka> same here ... emailing my mentors?
22:03:20 <farhat> nribeka what is your real name
22:03:28 * r0bby 's mentor is here :P
22:03:36 <nribeka> hi farhat
22:03:42 <farhat> hello
22:03:43 <nribeka> Nyoman Ribeka
22:04:03 <nribeka> my mentor is not here and never seen him here :P
22:04:31 <farhat> congs so u got picked..good
22:05:30 <farhat> upul congs to u too..
22:06:02 <upul> thanks farhat
22:06:28 <nribeka> thanks farhat
22:10:07 <burke> guys...I'll be sending out an intro e-mail shortly
22:10:23 <maveriick> burke, That would be great
22:10:33 <nribeka> ok. grr8 :D
22:11:01 <burke> I'll get you all on our mailing list and send out an e-mail thru there.
22:11:08 <burke> expectations, getting started tips, etc.
22:11:32 <maveriick> farhat, you want to discuss something with me an hour ago?
22:15:02 <farhat> upul i see you got assgined to boolean concept and person to tribe etc..u r assigned to 3 projects..did u applied to all three>
22:15:29 <upul> where is it?
22:15:38 <farhat> on project page
22:16:39 <upul> looks like it
22:17:02 <upul> i did put appications for lot of them that 31 night
22:17:56 <farhat> oh did u put them seperately or all in one
22:18:02 <upul> still, lots to learn, lot of work to do
22:19:21 <upul> i think i applied for project titles on that page separately
22:19:31 <upul> but i think, they are not hardcoded
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22:20:16 <burke> Ben felt like Upul's projects (specifically the Boolean and Tribe thing) could be done early. So, we rolled them together.
22:21:56 <upul> yes, workload could vary in different suggested projects
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22:34:23 <burke> r0bby: ok. i've got clinic tomorrow, so I'm going to try to get something out to the interns list before I get to bed.
22:34:53 <burke> r0bby: I wonder if you can avoid java 1.7 :p
22:35:17 <r0bby> that's easy :)
22:35:22 <r0bby> have fun
22:35:51 <r0bby> burke: oh wait -- I've touched java 7 :)
22:36:00 <r0bby> in ways you can't imagine
22:36:29 <r0bby> :D
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22:36:34 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3982]: Adding libraries to ant build classpath for latest commit <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3982>
22:36:57 * r0bby giggles at the image he created
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22:44:09 <r0bby> actually i just played with proposed features and prototype compilers -- but ran them w/ java 6
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23:26:47 <napi> r0bby; i suspect google doesn't hold the taxes
23:26:52 <napi> as it varies from country to country so much
23:26:58 <napi> most likely they just leave it with the student to sort out
23:27:03 <r0bby> ah ok
23:27:54 <napi> r0bby, how do you make a new folder in gmail? ¬.¬
23:29:15 <napi> ah nm
23:31:30 <r0bby> I dont use gmail's web ui
23:31:35 <r0bby> I just use it when i need to
23:32:05 * r0bby /soc
23:33:10 <upul> gmail has labels, so messages can have more than one label
23:34:57 <r0bby> upul: thunderbird has message filters =D
23:35:07 <r0bby> and it's enough for me (sorts everything nicely
23:35:37 <r0bby> burke: are you gonna put us soc'ers on the intern list?
23:35:56 <burke> done. i'm writing an intro e-mail as we type
23:36:40 <upul> but after i got used to labels, folders (even saved search folders) looks far limiting
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23:38:06 * r0bby sets up a folder for those messages :)
23:39:54 <napi> aah
23:40:13 * r0bby humps thunderbird
23:40:23 <r0bby> i use it for EVERYTHING
23:40:31 <napi> aaah. nice filter that labels anything from the mailing list, then archives them
23:40:47 <r0bby> it archices everything anyways :)
23:41:03 <napi> aye but this way it doesn't clog my in box :p
23:41:12 <r0bby> it doesn't clog mine :)
23:41:17 <r0bby> I see the folder :)
23:43:07 <napi> hehe
23:43:13 <napi> this I don't even have to see a folder :)
23:45:15 * napi wonders where to go to subscribe to the openmrs dev mailing list
23:45:28 <burke> okay kiddies. I sent out an e-mail to the interns list. I've got clinic tomorrow and my bedtime was about 1-2 hours ago...so g'night.
23:45:57 <upul> napi: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Community
23:46:02 <burke> BTW...I already subscribed all GSoC students to the interns and dev mailing lists. So don't bother.
23:46:05 <burke> :-)
23:46:14 <napi> ah cool
23:46:16 <napi> thanks :)
23:46:22 <burke> (that is, if you hadn't joined already)
23:47:01 <napi> night burke. and thanks :)
23:47:03 <burke> k. cya. i'll try to poke my head in tomorrow after clinic just to see what trouble you guys are getting into.
23:47:04 <napi> (for all the fish)
23:47:48 <nribeka> bye burke
23:48:09 <r0bby> burke
23:48:11 <r0bby> hold up
23:48:17 <burke> ?
23:48:19 <r0bby> i tried to reg. on the forum
23:48:30 <r0bby> the captcha is...horrid
23:48:46 <burke> then type "horrid" ;)
23:49:06 <napi> lol
23:49:08 <r0bby> no
23:49:17 <r0bby> i mean i can't read the f'in thing
23:49:41 <r0bby> I understand you wanna make it secure -- but christ
23:49:56 <r0bby> I hate forums anyways
23:50:10 <burke> wow...phpbb3 really wants to prevent bots...and most humans too.
23:50:20 <burke> i'm impressed at those folks who have managed to register :p
23:50:26 <r0bby> yeh
23:50:31 <r0bby> see..
23:50:40 <burke> yeah. some people like lists, some like irc, some like forums. that's why a feed aggregator rocks
23:50:55 <napi> Whats the "to" address for the dev list please?
23:50:58 <napi> (interns one is openmrs-interns-l@listserv.iupui.edu)
23:51:03 <r0bby> interns@Openmrs.org
23:51:16 <r0bby> interns@openmrs.org rather
23:51:57 <upul> if you want to make filters wait until the first mail comes in gmail
23:52:19 <burke> r0bby: well, I gotta go to bed. FYI - if you refresh the forum reg page it will make a new captcha...so refresh until it's legible (or at least better than your first try) and then register
23:52:36 <burke> hopefully you've gotten an e-mail from me?
23:52:39 <upul> you can create a filter from the first message easily from the menu
23:52:41 * r0bby si.
23:52:42 <burke> on the interns list?
23:52:45 <burke> ok.
23:53:08 <burke> now I *really* gotta go.
23:53:20 <burke> ...but I'm going to wait for r0bby to try to ask another question before I quit IRC
23:53:30 <napi> lol
23:53:34 <nribeka> lol
23:53:38 <nribeka> haha ...
23:54:09 <r0bby> no questions
23:54:15 *** napi is now known as mshanks
23:54:26 <burke> r0bby: why not?
23:54:29 <r0bby> how much would could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood
23:54:35 <r0bby> god that was painful to type
23:54:47 <burke> s/would/wood/
23:55:05 <r0bby> yeh yeh
23:55:07 <r0bby> go to bed :P
23:55:08 <mshanks> lol
23:55:42 <burke> r0bby: btw...did I tell you about the most important feature for the Groovy Form module yet?
23:55:54 <r0bby> oh god
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23:56:15 <r0bby> that bastard
23:56:20 <nribeka> haha ... lolz ...
23:56:40 <r0bby> that was just...
23:56:44 <r0bby> burke++
23:56:51 <r0bby> !karma burke
23:56:51 <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: Karma for "burke" has been increased 7 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 6.