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<napi> real quiet in here these days
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<nribeka> i think everybody is busy napi hehe ...
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<napi> aye
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<nribeka> final week here :D
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<napi> i am too... but desperately looking for distractions from coursework
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<napi> so sick of trying to build a gui in c++ :(
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<napi> i win
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<nribeka> wow ...
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<napi> worst. month. ever.
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<nribeka> i only have two project
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<nribeka> one presentation
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<nribeka> you still win napi :D
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<napi> ah oh yeah - gotta do a dissertation demonstration aswell to head of the department, my tutor, and the module convenor
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<napi> know c++ there's plenty to go around :p
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<napi> got some java that needs doing too if you game haha
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<napi> http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~nxk/TEACHING/G53BIO/Coursework2007-2008.htm <-- java .. feel free to have a go :p
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<napi> never heard of it lol
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<nribeka> hehe ... it's visualization lib too
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<nribeka> but i think the project is discontinued :D
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<r0bby> ...scheme isn't that ugly im realizing :)
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<r0bby> burke_away!
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<burke_away> heya r0bby
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<r0bby> how goes
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<pearlbear> hey, has anyone here used freemind?
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<burke_meeting> nope
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<pearlbear> it's pretty cool. Open source mind mapping software
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<pearlbear> I'm going to use it to map the docs as they are
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<bmckown> Hmm. Sounds cool. I've looked at freemind briefly before (as in downloaded it), but never really used it.
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<r0bby> pearlbear: the docs should all be neatly put into a pdf
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<bmckown> Makes me think of Mooter.org search engine. Works by clustering.
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<bmckown> oops. Mooter.com
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<r0bby> you know if that M is changed to an H it's obscene :P
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<bmckown> Hey, wow: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FreeMind
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<bmckown> r0bby, you're a sick man.
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<r0bby> nonsense
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<bmckown> but you're welcome to go to the 'other' page if you 'want'
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<bmckown> hehe
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<r0bby> heh i'm a sick intelligent (sort of) man :P
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<r0bby> peach snapple++
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<r0bby> !karma peach snapple
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: I didn't know the karma for any of those things.
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<r0bby> stupid bot
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<pearlbear> r0bby: indeed, that's the idea.
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<pearlbear> freemind has great export tools
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<pearlbear> r0bby: oh, sorry
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<pearlbear> you meant all of the documentation?
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<r0bby> yeh
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<pearlbear> bmckown: wow, that is cool
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<r0bby> the openmrs docs are scattered
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<r0bby> I'd rather have it all on one page
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<r0bby> or in a pdf
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<bmckown> I guess it just allows you to display the freemind map in mediawiki.
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<r0bby> where i just hit page down :)
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<r0bby> Confluence allows you to export to PDF
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<pearlbear> Confluence is a rather good wiki
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<r0bby> I managed to bring down antlr's wiki
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<r0bby> by generating pdfs like mad :x
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<bmckown> hmm.
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<bmckown> what's your user name on our openmrs site, r0bby ? we might have to 'watch' that.
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<r0bby> see -- i have a problem -- I tend to collect as much documentation (books etc)
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<r0bby> bmckown: same here :P
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<r0bby> bmckown: I don't do it there!
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<r0bby> i think it's r0bby
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<r0bby> bmckown: I rarely edit
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<bmckown> Let me go see if there's a "don't let r0bby mess up our web site" permission.
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<bmckown> hehe
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<r0bby> honestly, i don't think it was all me
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<bmckown> sure
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<r0bby> you think i INTENTIONALLY brought down a site i was using to learn how to use a tool?
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<bmckown> it was you. admit it. now we get to know the real r0bby.
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<r0bby> Don't make me call my sloppy hitman :)
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<r0bby> welcome back
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<bmckown> Thanks. It was weird. Processor running at 100% for some display processes.
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<r0bby> just kill the process :)
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<bmckown> hehe
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<pearlbear> here's the map ... http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developer_Documentation_Analysis
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<bmckown> I was just looking at it. That's, cool pearlbear
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<pearlbear> freemind is such a cool tool. It didn't take me that long to do
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<bmckown> Very nicely organized I think.
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<r0bby> oh you're using xchat bmckown =)
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<r0bby> I could lose my x session and still keep irc running :)
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<bmckown> ? Ah, that's right you use 'that' client.
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<bmckown> In fact, why are you in x-windows at all?
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<bmckown> hehe
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<r0bby> yes -- in fact i can connect to it from anywhere w/ an intarweb connection :)
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<r0bby> says the man using xchat.
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<bmckown> because the man using xchat is not being serious.
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<bmckown> :-)
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<r0bby> I use x because i need it for IDEA
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<bmckown> I need it for eclipse.
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<bmckown> I like vim.
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<r0bby> I'm contemplating trying out emacs
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<r0bby> w/ the vim plugin to get around the horrid keymapping
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<r0bby> primarily for the lisp features =)
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<bwolfe> eray: number?
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<eray> I have submitted this version 3 days ago :D
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<bwolfe> ah, cool
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<bwolfe> it doens't send notifications when just the attachments are added or changed
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<eray> I haven't do anyhing on java side yet
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<eray> because of my exams
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<bwolfe> eray: a lot is not compatible?? :-/
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<bwolfe> thats no good
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<bwolfe> it would be nice to pull the month abbreviations from java somehow
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<bwolfe> instead of hardcoding into the javascript
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<bwolfe> eray: would be nice to write a taglib for the scriptlet you have on line 20
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<bwolfe> looks good otherwise :_)
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<bwolfe> :-)
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<eray> ok
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<eray> I can do whatever needed
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<pearlbear> bwolfe: I haven't looked at deki wiki. What do you like about it in particular?
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<eray> I will get month abbreviations from JAVA
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<bwolfe> they forked mediawiki a few years ago and "fixed the problems with it".
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<bwolfe> they have things like wysiwyg editing and "better" plugins
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<eray> bwolfe: however I have looked at the dictionary for month names of all languages :):):)
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<eray> it was a detailed job :P
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<bwolfe> eray: added the comments to the ticket for (double) posterity
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<bwolfe> eray: yeah, I was wondering if you didn't just know all of those languages. :_)
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<bwolfe> :-)
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<eray> euheuheueh
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<bwolfe> pearlbear: I don't really see any compelling reason to switch to deki, was just wondering what your stance was
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<eray> I know English
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<bwolfe> eray: eventually it would be nice for openmrs not to hardcode the available languages
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<eray> y un poco espanol
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<eray> :)
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<bwolfe> so then we wouldn't want them hardcoded into javascript either
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<eray> ok ok, I can arrange the code
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<eray> I did not think I could get the abbreviations from Java side :S
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<eray> it would be cool
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<pearlbear> bwolfe: hmmm, well, if it were really better for documentation, it might be worth thinking about - one would think that the migration would be not a big deal
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<bwolfe> pearlbear: yeah, they said they have a converter
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<bwolfe> they store everything as normal html, so its fairly trivial I think
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<r0bby> eh -> http://www.springframework.org/node/627
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<bwolfe> r0bby: yeah, would be nice to use that instead of our hacked in custom authentication
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<bwolfe> ...we use everthing else "spring", so why not security too? :-p
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<pearlbear> http://www.wikimatrix.org/compare/DekiWiki+DokuWiki+MediaWiki
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1oRV> (at www.wikimatrix.org)
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<bwolfe> wow, thats a lot of wiki comparisons
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<bwolfe> the only big difference is the html editing
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<r0bby> wow i like this dude's blog
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<bwolfe> (wysiwig editing)
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<r0bby> he modeled the entire layout after vim
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<bwolfe> r0bby: which dude?
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<pearlbear> yeah, it seems that the major diff betw mediawiki and deki wiki is the wsywig editing. And, weirdly, the Mono requirement
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<r0bby> http://www.sudovi.com/blog/
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<r0bby> I saw one blog that pretty much stated the obvious
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<bwolfe> odd
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<r0bby> it's unique to say the least
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<r0bby> mm
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<r0bby> 5 minites
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<r0bby> make that 15
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<r0bby> dual monitors WERE working
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<r0bby> til i installed the new keyboard
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<bwolfe> haha
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<bwolfe> reverted your xorg.conf file r0bby ?
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<r0bby> yes
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<r0bby> :P
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<bmckown> :P
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<Keelhaul> um
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<Keelhaul> i have a question about the api
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<Keelhaul> http://rafb.net/p/33qssF81.html
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<Keelhaul> what are the first two lines for
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<Keelhaul> they dont seem to be in any other update methods
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<Keelhaul> i forgot
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<bwolfe> hey, is that really docpaul, or is that just docpaul's computer signing him on??
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<Keelhaul> hm
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<Keelhaul> the computer usually wouldnt join and leave channels
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<Keelhaul> only connect/disconnect
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<bwolfe> if his is set up to auto-join #openmrs on startup (as mine is)...and to auto connect to freenode...and to start icechat on startup...
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<bwolfe> :-)
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<bwolfe> its possible..
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<Keelhaul> sure
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<Keelhaul> if the computer disconnects, you dont see a leaving message
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<Keelhaul> like this
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<Keelhaul> blue, not green (at least with most irc clients i know)
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<bwolfe> odd, I thought it was the other way around
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<Keelhaul> "hasl left" is when the person does /part
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<Keelhaul> i have a question
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<Keelhaul> or two
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<Keelhaul> not long
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<bwolfe> sure
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<Keelhaul> first of all, the api has lots of methods like "getObsByEncounter()"
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<bwolfe> there's about 30 mins of train ride left, so they can be medium questions :-)
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<Keelhaul> are methods like that really needed, since hibernate automatically gets all obs for the encounter object
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<bwolfe> right
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<Keelhaul> i had them before
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<Keelhaul> and deleted them all at some point
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<bwolfe> those kind of methods should be removed in the new api refactoring
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<Keelhaul> ok
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<Keelhaul> and another one
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<bwolfe> if the object has the set of objects on it, we don't need to duplicate that in the api...you are 100% correct
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<Keelhaul> good
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<Keelhaul> saves me some lines =)
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<Keelhaul> i hate scrolling..
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<Keelhaul> if you create an obs, and assign it to an encounter
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<Keelhaul> lets say manually in some random web app
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<Keelhaul> e.addObs(o);
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<Keelhaul> at what point does o get e assigned as its parent encounter?
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<Keelhaul> does it happen automatically somewhere or do i have to call o.setEncounter(e);
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<bwolfe> the addObs method should do that. does it not do that now ?
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<Keelhaul> http://rafb.net/p/mWVSgQ33.html
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<Keelhaul> yep
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Keelhaul> it does
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<Keelhaul> ok then, i wasnt sure where to make it happen
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<Keelhaul> there doesnt seem to be a call to save the obs though
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<Keelhaul> unless it cascades
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