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| 08:18:01 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #685 (task created): Manage Patient Programs <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/685> |
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| 09:59:40 | <bhanu> hi udai |
| 10:01:40 | <udai> Hi bhanu |
| 10:01:44 | <udai> How r u? |
| 10:01:52 | <bhanu> fine |
| 10:01:55 | <bhanu> and u |
| 10:02:01 | <udai> nice |
| 10:02:12 | <udai> ready for party :) |
| 10:02:19 | <bhanu> ya |
| 10:02:23 | <udai> gud |
| 10:02:44 | <bhanu> aaj to pene ka bhi programme hai tera |
| 10:02:48 | <udai> I needed to send that solution I asked you yesterday |
| 10:02:56 | <udai> yup |
| 10:03:44 | <udai> I found that you are gud at those things |
| 10:06:42 | <bhanu> ohh thx |
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| 12:19:04 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #686 (task created): Module repository link to "How to install a module" <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/686> |
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| 12:49:10 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #687 (enhancement created): Module description should contain link to module documentation on wiki <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/687> |
| 13:19:22 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3914]: -- chica * pull location from encounter instead of using Unknown location <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3914> |
| 13:23:09 | * napi slaps OpenMRSBot |
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| 13:26:07 | <bhanu> hi |
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| 13:59:03 | <napi> hibha |
| 13:59:06 | <napi> wtf |
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| 15:27:35 | <sunbiz> hi guys!! |
| 15:29:20 | <sunbiz> for all the imaging project planning to use Java applets: http://sunnytalkstech.blogspot.com/2008/04/java-applets-don-run-in-browser-anymore.html |
| 15:29:54 | <sunbiz> I wrote that post and Java 6u10 is really gotten pretty fast |
| 15:30:17 | <sunbiz> They just released a beta few days back... |
| 15:35:30 | <eray> I think they should grow the JAVA user interface technology instead of growing performance issues :D |
| 15:37:09 | <sunbiz> eray: I think Java's slow startup is a major issue with a lot of people and hence makes people feel Java is slow |
| 15:37:53 | <sunbiz> I guess they have a pretty good UI API... mayb a little memory efficient could be useful, but then thats performance again :) |
| 15:38:36 | <sunbiz> and for web development, I've found JSF to be a really good, fast development UI thing |
| 15:39:12 | <eray> JSF is not dynamic, I think JSF and applets can not be comparable |
| 15:39:43 | <eray> I think this effort only aims to give an answer to Adobe's AIR technology |
| 15:39:56 | <eray> but they need to do more :D |
| 15:40:11 | <sunbiz> eray: yea...they arnt comparable, I just put it coz Swing is for desktop/applet UI development and JSF for the web |
| 15:40:24 | <sunbiz> yea... JavaFX Script is going pretty slow... |
| 15:41:28 | <sunbiz> I think if they have an IDE like Flash (for design) + Eclipse/netBeans(for code) ... JavaFX Script can be a killer |
| 15:42:04 | <sunbiz> MS seems to be doing it right with Silvelight, but still not comparable to Flash |
| 15:42:43 | <eray> sunbiz: Flash is like a cancer I think for PC's |
| 15:43:06 | <eray> it spends a lot of CPU and a lot of local sources of the computer |
| 15:44:04 | <sunbiz> eray: There really isn't much of an alternative and you have to appreciate why they are used on the web for video ?? |
| 15:45:37 | <sunbiz> eray: Try doing a media player/animation engine on JavaScript and you'll surely call it a cancer too!! ;) |
| 15:46:30 | <eray> the purpose of JavaScript is different :D |
| 15:47:43 | <eray> I think Flash and derivative technologies of Flash like Flex is not a good choice for UI applications |
| 15:48:19 | <eray> a lot of web engine developers now try to make JavaScript engines better |
| 15:48:34 | <r0bby> :) |
| 15:49:01 | <sunbiz> eray: is there an alternative for what Flash been doing ?? |
| 15:49:12 | <eray> for what purpose ? |
| 15:49:57 | <sunbiz> for showing ads, for animation, for video like Youtube, for cross platform... |
| 15:50:09 | <sunbiz> for being all that together in one technology |
| 15:50:13 | <r0bby> ugh |
| 15:50:31 | <r0bby> flash ads...worse off when people decide to make ads obstrusive! |
| 15:50:35 | <sunbiz> and widely deployed browser runtime |
| 15:50:57 | <eray> I have said already I appreciate Flash for video streaming purposes |
| 15:50:58 | <sunbiz> r0bby: but there are good ads as well, if you've looked at a few |
| 15:51:23 | <sunbiz> Intel ads about server protection recently comes to mind |
| 15:51:49 | <sunbiz> where you take your mouse and agents/dogs... rip off your mouse... that was pretty interactive and interesting to me!! |
| 15:51:51 | <eray> but I think a lot of people, "like me", uses plugins in order not to load Flash animations to their web browser |
| 15:52:17 | <sunbiz> eray: yes... thats a choice you can make!! |
| 15:53:09 | <sunbiz> eray: But there is obviously a reason why its the defacto standard although IDE for Flash is not free and the tech is all binary... something about it has to be special !??! |
| 15:53:29 | <eray> everything has different advantage for specific purposes |
| 15:54:00 | <sunbiz> eray: and my point is Flash is good at a lot of purposes to be called a cancer !! :D |
| 15:54:19 | <eray> I have said a lot, I appreciate Flash for streaming purposes |
| 15:54:32 | <sunbiz> may be a headache is a good word... :p |
| 15:54:44 | <eray> but it does not show that it is the best choice for everthing |
| 15:54:46 | <sunbiz> or pain-in-the-ass :p |
| 15:55:07 | <sunbiz> eray: not at all the best choice for everything... |
| 15:56:07 | <sunbiz> eray: though I have yet to find a screw that fits all slots in life!! |
| 15:57:47 | <eray> I am waiting for AIR's 1.0 version, maybe I can use Adobe's technologies on areas other than PDF viewing ;) |
| 15:59:14 | <sunbiz> I tried Air sometime back... and it all felt like Widget programming that we did with AveDesk and the likes |
| 15:59:47 | <sunbiz> even with that Mozilla runtime they are coming up with...feels very similar to those things |
| 16:00:07 | <sunbiz> I can't recall that Mozilla thing now...lemme google |
| 16:00:55 | <sunbiz> !google Apollo |
| 16:00:55 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: http://www.google.com/search?q=Apollo |
| 16:01:33 | <eray> isnt AIR the new name of Apollo project ? |
| 16:02:23 | <sunbiz> yea... I was trying to find something from Mozilla which is like Apollo |
| 16:03:21 | <r0bby> sunbiz: sometimes i dont care about ads |
| 16:03:38 | <sunbiz> nah... can't find that Mozilla name :( |
| 16:04:01 | <sunbiz> r0bby: me neither... but sometimes they catch our attention |
| 16:04:28 | <eray> they catch our hate, I think :D |
| 16:05:35 | <nribeka> haha ... that because they want us to click the ads to get money from google :D |
| 16:06:08 | <sunbiz> nribeka: and what if you were on the fetching ends of those ads ?!?! |
| 16:07:23 | <nribeka> i want it to catch everyone attention for sure :D |
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| 16:08:38 | <eray> I think if google see Flash a defacto standart I think they use Flash instead of Javascript on Google maps |
| 16:08:42 | <eray> this is another issue ;) |
| 16:09:06 | <sunbiz> Most Web 2.0 runs from ads and the value of it is in the ads... Zuckerburg would have been suckerburg, if it werent valued for the ads/personal info that Facebook has :p |
| 16:09:35 | <sunbiz> eray: totally different thing for Goggle Maps... |
| 16:10:05 | <sunbiz> eray: if we were talking SVG it would have been a comparison... anyways that reminds me that Google came up with KML |
| 16:12:34 | <eray> do you think svg is very slow for rendering ? |
| 16:13:10 | <sunbiz> eray: browsers could implement it a little better.. is what I feel |
| 16:13:57 | <sunbiz> anyways, guys off to bed now... have my dissertation presentations day after 2morrow |
| 16:14:19 | <sunbiz> actually 2morrow, its already 2:44 am here!! bye!! |
| 16:14:24 | <nribeka> best of luck to you sunbiz ... |
| 16:14:35 | <sunbiz> thanks nribeka |
| 16:14:37 | <eray> bye, good conservation :) |
| 16:14:45 | <sunbiz> yea... a good one!! |
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| 17:19:07 | <r0bby> new groovy release :D |
| 17:23:01 | <napi> xmas come early for r0bby lol |
| 17:26:04 | <r0bby> If they keep the mixin syntax as they have it now |
| 17:26:05 | <r0bby> i |
| 17:26:09 | <r0bby> ll love ti |
| 17:26:23 | <r0bby> sucks a mixin can only add one method :/ |
| 17:26:31 | <napi> so excited your hands are shaking you can't type properly? :p |
| 17:26:43 | <r0bby> I wanted to override all the arithmetic operators |
| 17:27:05 | <r0bby> no, ii can't type properly anyways :P |
| 17:27:29 | <bwolfe> its the alcohol |
| 17:27:40 | <bwolfe> happy hour...its the downfall of many a programmer |
| 17:28:01 | <r0bby> I dont drink |
| 17:28:14 | <r0bby> probably shouldn't admit that openly |
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| 17:44:39 | <bwolfe> nah, not drinking is a good thing...especially if you're underage :-p |
| 17:46:31 | <eray> drinking is not good when you become an adult :D |
| 17:48:22 | <eray> it loses attractivity when it is legal for you :D |
| 17:48:32 | <napi> lool |
| 17:48:34 | <napi> lies |
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| 17:51:51 | <nribeka> there's no legal age to drink back in my home country lolz ... |
| 17:55:44 | <bwolfe> haha, eray is totally right. my desire to drink went waay down after I turned 21...sorry napi |
| 18:02:57 | <eray> if you are free to do whatever you want, there is no meaning of the life :) |
| 18:03:37 | <eray> kurt cobain and many of them has realized this truth :s |
| 18:04:55 | <r0bby> napi: tell that to my cousin's jackass husband |
| 18:05:03 | <r0bby> he was drunk at his daughter's wedding |
| 18:05:44 | <napi> I drink more now than I did when I was under-age :o |
| 18:05:52 | <napi> but then I'm still a student so different rules really |
| 18:06:14 | <r0bby> napi: if you drink on monday's i expect you to beat your wife |
| 18:06:35 | <r0bby> or <insert nearest female> |
| 18:07:28 | <napi> haha |
| 18:07:50 | <napi> well it's a monday and I'm finishing a few beers while coding... when my better half gets back from town I'll be sure to smack her around a bit |
| 18:08:42 | <r0bby> well |
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| 19:50:43 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3915]: Changing privilege check on patient dashboard from Manage Programs to Edit ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3915> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #624 (task closed): Edit Tribe Permission Branch <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/624#comment:4> |
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| 20:20:54 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #685 (task closed): Manage Patient Programs <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/685#comment:2> |
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| 22:57:22 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3917]: xformsorbeon module: major revision to Validation scheme. IValidator and ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3917> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3916]: xformsorbeon module: added new validation scheme version <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3916> |
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| 23:57:36 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #688 (task created): MRNGenerator Module : This module helps in automatic generation and assigning if Id's in New Patient Registration form <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/688> |