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| 05:15:27 | <sunbiz> hi guys!! |
| 05:15:59 | <sunbiz> not many people on the channel today ?? |
| 05:17:25 | <sunbiz> just finished my theory exams... so I thought I'd do something interesting on OpenMRS ??... |
| 05:23:53 | <sunbiz> I guess I'll come back when everyonez awake!! |
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| 06:44:42 | <bwolfe> shadowdoc: Marc! |
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| 06:45:14 | <bwolfe> how goes things? What brings you to irc? |
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| 08:35:06 | <bwolfe> mseaton: having connection issues? :-p |
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| 08:45:56 | <mseaton> :), just trying out mibbit |
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| 09:04:11 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3890]: report-api-refactoring: adding birthdates to sample data <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3890> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3889]: xformsorbeon module: Persisting an encounter properly! HIPHIPHORRAY! <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3889> |
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| 09:28:20 | <sunbiz> is anyone awake ?? |
| 09:34:50 | <bwolfe> nope |
| 09:34:53 | <bwolfe> everyone is sleeping |
| 09:34:57 | <bwolfe> I am sleep typing |
| 09:35:06 | <bwolfe> sleep lurking, if you will |
| 09:35:08 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: News Blog: OpenMRS 1.2.02 Released <http://blog.openmrs.org/?p=67> |
| 09:35:21 | <sunbiz> :) |
| 09:35:43 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: how did you run your java program for #188 |
| 09:36:02 | <bwolfe> svn has trouble with class comments |
| 09:36:16 | <bwolfe> so I want to run it on one of the other branches before I do a merge from trunk |
| 09:38:17 | <sunbiz> just like the normal way to run java programs, compile and run... I hard coded the location as Windows specific... mayb u'll need to change that |
| 09:38:31 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: did you run your AddLicense.java from eclipse, or from command line? |
| 09:38:40 | <bwolfe> ah, I was hoping for everything within eclipse ;-) |
| 09:38:54 | <sunbiz> and the FileNameExtensionFilter is part of JDK6 only |
| 09:40:09 | <bwolfe> hmm, yeah, I have java6 |
| 09:40:43 | <sunbiz> yeah... I was talking about the firefox plugin |
| 09:40:47 | <sunbiz> !ticket 175 |
| 09:40:47 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: Ticket #175: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/175 |
| 09:41:15 | <bwolfe> grr javac AddLicence.java ..... java AddLicense .... gives me an "open file" dialog and then a java swing window and nothing happens |
| 09:41:17 | <sunbiz> I was half-way working on the plugin when I realized the plugin isn't needed |
| 09:41:34 | <sunbiz> yea... u select the files and then it adds license to the selected files |
| 09:41:59 | <bwolfe> ah. can I just select the main folder? |
| 09:43:19 | <sunbiz> no... I had actually initially made it recursive where it can search folders and Java files inside that |
| 09:43:36 | <sunbiz> but it was talking too long on some files... and hence I made it single file based |
| 09:44:15 | <sunbiz> actually... it was just quick one-time thing... not a well written code for all purposes :( |
| 09:44:30 | <bwolfe> yeah, thats fine |
| 09:45:00 | <sunbiz> did u try to check the checkmark when it asks in Firefox ?? |
| 09:45:06 | <bwolfe> the firefox plugin is needed because that "always do this" preference in firefox doesn't seem to work. |
| 09:45:36 | <sunbiz> it seems to be working with Firefox 2 and Firefox 3 for me !?? |
| 09:45:38 | <bwolfe> I think there is a second check that firefox does and since we're selecting "open" on an extension that firefox doesn't know or like, it still gives that popup |
| 09:45:44 | <sunbiz> wait... lemme tell you the steps... |
| 09:45:56 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: are you choosing "open" automatically, or "save" automatically ? |
| 09:46:06 | <bwolfe> ...and it has to be on the forms that users download |
| 09:46:14 | <sunbiz> save automatically |
| 09:46:19 | <bwolfe> (patient dashboard --> forms tab --> choose a form and open it with infopath) |
| 09:46:23 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: yeah, works for save |
| 09:46:33 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: we want it to work for open :-) |
| 09:46:37 | <bwolfe> (hence the plugin) |
| 09:46:47 | <bwolfe> I haven't tried ff3...maybe they fixed it ? |
| 09:47:25 | <sunbiz> ok... so we want to open it directly with InfoPath right ?? |
| 09:50:55 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: arent we doing this: http://demo.openmrs.org/openmrs/admin/forms/formEdit.form?formId=16 and then clicking "Download XSN" ?? |
| 09:50:56 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1ni9> (at demo.openmrs.org) |
| 09:51:54 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: no, thats a different action. the "download xsn" should /always/ be saved. because you never want to open that file directly. that file you always want to right click on (after saved) and choose "design in infopath". |
| 09:52:24 | <bwolfe> we want to give our data enterers one less click...that means not having to click "open" after clicking on a form |
| 09:52:51 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: yea... so this one should save (to Firefox's default location) without showing the dialog right ?? |
| 09:52:57 | <bwolfe> the data enterers only see the patient dashboard (the screen after searching/finding/choosing a patient) |
| 09:53:45 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: no, that would should probably just stay as is. because some admins will want to save to the same place, some will want to save to different, etc....ff handles that properly now |
| 09:55:50 | <sunbiz> ok... |
| 09:56:58 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: is this the place ?? ==> http://demo.openmrs.org/openmrs/patientDashboard.form?patientId=5689&phrase=and |
| 09:56:59 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1niH> (at demo.openmrs.org) |
| 09:57:25 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 09:59:52 | <sunbiz> So when I click on a form from the ones below... the dialog that comes up, should actually no come... and instead it should open InfoPath ?? is that correct ??? |
| 10:00:03 | <sunbiz> *not |
| 10:02:00 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: those files have an extension "infopathxml" ... is that correct ?? |
| 10:02:22 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: right |
| 10:02:28 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: and right |
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| 10:04:22 | <rmalla> bwolfe: good morning ben |
| 10:04:45 | <bwolfe> hey ratnakar |
| 10:05:27 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: fyi, I can run that AddLicense.java from eclipse. I had forgotten to create the project as a "java" project |
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| 10:06:23 | <sunbiz> :P |
| 10:07:05 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: why do we have to register separately for the wiki and the trac ??? |
| 10:07:55 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: because we haven't linked mediawiki and trac to the same authentication scheme yet |
| 10:08:08 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: we need to install some sort of CAS on the website, but we just haven't gotten around to it :-/ |
| 10:09:13 | <rmalla> bwolfe: I am having problem configuring hibernate with our mrngen module |
| 10:09:34 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: So u want infopathxml files to be associated with InfoPath with that plugin ?? and Im targetting >Firefox 1.5... is that ok ?? |
| 10:10:38 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: 2.0 would be preferred...did they change much between the two? |
| 10:10:53 | <bwolfe> rmalla: how do you mean? can you pastebin.com your error message ? |
| 10:11:46 | <rmalla> bwolfe: sure , actually it might me configuration issue, I get a sessionFactory object as NULL |
| 10:12:13 | <rmalla> bwolfe: DO we need to configure sessionFactory for the mrngen module? |
| 10:12:15 | <bwolfe> rmalla: ah yes. have you set up the applicationContext.xml file ? |
| 10:12:33 | <bwolfe> rmalla: did you create your own service int he mrngen module? |
| 10:13:02 | <sunbiz> yes... <Firefox 1.5 has a diffferent architecture for plugins |
| 10:13:13 | <rmalla> bwolfe: so do i need to set up a transaction manager? |
| 10:13:59 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: thats unfortunate. however, 2.0 has been how for quite a while now. I think most people are using that. |
| 10:14:13 | <bwolfe> rmalla: yeah, you pretty much have to just copy that whole applicationContext.xml example |
| 10:14:15 | <bwolfe> !modules |
| 10:14:15 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "modules" is not a valid command. |
| 10:14:31 | <bwolfe> !learn modules as http://openmrs.org/wiki/Modules |
| 10:14:31 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:14:33 | <bwolfe> !modules |
| 10:14:33 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "modules" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Modules |
| 10:14:40 | <bwolfe> its linked to from the modules page |
| 10:14:55 | <rmalla> ok will take a look at it |
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| 12:33:34 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: Silly question: any idea how InfoPath is used on non-windows machines say Linux, Mac ?? |
| 12:33:59 | <sunbiz> or do OpenMRS implementers even use non-windows for InfoPath designs?? |
| 12:46:20 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: u there ??? |
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| 13:05:04 | <jmiranda> hey sunbiz |
| 13:08:14 | <jmiranda> sunbiz: from a server standpoint, we've been able to serve infopath forms on windows, mac, linux |
| 13:08:57 | <jmiranda> but we're currently only able to use the infopath client for windows on the client side |
| 13:09:31 | <jmiranda> the way most people get around that limitation with mac is to use something like parallels |
| 13:10:55 | <jmiranda> last summer [OmegentooX] worked on an Open Office alternative to InfoPath |
| 13:11:21 | <jmiranda> i believe we ran into a few issues towards the end of the summer that halted the progress of that project |
| 13:11:26 | <sunbiz> jmiranda: I was talking about editing the forms that we now do with InfoPath... |
| 13:11:36 | <jmiranda> desiging |
| 13:11:44 | <jmiranda> designing ... got it |
| 13:11:52 | <sunbiz> yea, designing |
| 13:12:37 | <jmiranda> for now, yeah, a windows machine (or dual-boot, parallels, etc) is the only solution |
| 13:15:06 | <sunbiz> ok |
| 13:23:53 | <napi> hello all |
| 13:23:59 | <napi> woo been a while since i've been here |
| 13:25:16 | <[OmegentooX]> jmiranda, any idea what's going on with an XForms designer? Is that in the xformsorbean module? |
| 13:25:41 | <bwolfe> napi: been a while, yes. how was the trip? |
| 13:25:49 | <napi> very good thanks |
| 13:26:00 | <napi> nice relaxing break from work- back into the full slog of the dissertation though (hence my absence here) |
| 13:26:01 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: looks like jmiranda answered your questions :-) |
| 13:26:19 | <sunbiz> yea |
| 13:26:20 | <napi> hows life treating everyone here? |
| 13:26:40 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: so I have to call InfoPath only in Windows :) |
| 13:27:31 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: yeah, you have to do the designing and filling out the form in windows. after designing, you can upload to a linux server and serve the files out that way if need be though |
| 13:28:22 | <bwolfe> brb |
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| 16:06:46 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: have the mentors finished with the ranking ??? |
| 16:07:00 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: we've just started :-) |
| 16:07:02 | <sunbiz> I see an update time of 10th April on my application |
| 16:07:13 | <bwolfe> we have another 7 days ;-) |
| 16:07:16 | <sunbiz> ok... so I guess that tells my application has been ranked!! :) |
| 16:07:28 | <bwolfe> well, we're putting private comments on them |
| 16:07:35 | <bwolfe> we haven't actually ranked anyone yet :-p |
| 16:07:48 | <sunbiz> ok.. that explains the update on the app |
| 16:08:36 | <bwolfe> yeah, I wish it didn't tell the students about those changes |
| 16:08:48 | <bwolfe> did it email you? or did you just see a "last changed date" that was different? |
| 16:09:10 | <sunbiz> :P... no email... just the last changed date got updated |
| 16:09:58 | <sunbiz> why wouldn't u want to tell the students ?? |
| 16:10:07 | <sunbiz> :o |
| 16:10:34 | <bwolfe> because we don't know how many slots we have yet |
| 16:11:03 | <sunbiz> if u dont mind ==> what does the link indicate about the expected slots ?? |
| 16:11:07 | <bwolfe> if for some reason we only get 3 slots and we tell the top 10 that we've chosen them....well, thats very sad for those other 7 |
| 16:11:14 | <bwolfe> what link? |
| 16:11:14 | <sunbiz> *line |
| 16:11:27 | <bwolfe> oh, our initial is 10 |
| 16:11:31 | <bwolfe> but will probably go down :-/ |
| 16:11:47 | <bwolfe> the number changed 3 different times last year before the ranking process was done :-p |
| 16:11:52 | <sunbiz> and how many mentors do we have ?? |
| 16:13:33 | <bwolfe> not 100% sure yet. not everyone has committed |
| 16:13:37 | <bwolfe> looks like 9-10 right now |
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| 17:13:02 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: News Blog: OpenMRS at MySQL Conference next week (April 14 - 17) <http://blog.openmrs.org/?p=68> |
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| 17:17:34 | * r0bby looks around |
| 17:19:23 | <jmiranda> r0bby: what do you see? |
| 17:20:08 | <r0bby> well those dead bodies are starting to come up from the ground :) |
| 17:20:37 | <jmiranda> r0bby: oooh, that's a bad sign ... i think |
| 17:21:02 | <r0bby> it's been dead in here |
| 17:21:15 | <r0bby> and i _HATE_ waiting to see if my app got accepted :< |
| 17:22:43 | <jmiranda> :) |
| 17:23:10 | <jmiranda> just enjoy the nice weather we're having |
| 17:26:31 | <jmiranda> alright, i have to take off for a few hours |
| 17:26:44 | <jmiranda> enjoy your evenings/mornings everyone |
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| 17:43:08 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #680 (defect created): try/catch inListener.getRuntimeProperties would ease an already difficult install... <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/680> |
| 17:44:38 | <openmrs_1745> robby > which project u submit your appication for?Just curious |
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| 18:05:27 | <nam_gal> what happened to the openmrs demo site ?? |
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| 18:10:59 | <sunbiz> anyone manging the demo server ??? |
| 18:11:05 | <sunbiz> *managing |
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| 18:12:00 | <sunbiz> ok... thanks got back the demo!! |
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| 19:26:39 | <r0bby> this place is dead. |
| 19:26:52 | <nribeka> hey ya robby ... |
| 19:27:02 | <nribeka> everybody is gone hahaha lolz ... |
| 19:27:25 | <nribeka> i just finish an exam and i'm so glad it's over now ... |
| 19:30:32 | <r0bby> bah yeh |
| 19:30:40 | <r0bby> I gotta register |
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| 19:31:02 | <r0bby> soonish :x |
| 19:31:16 | <nribeka> hehe ... i need to register too ... |
| 19:31:33 | <nribeka> it's the last two weeks of the term here |
| 19:31:53 | <nribeka> and all assignment and exam stuff is killing me haha lolz ... |
| 19:37:28 | <bwolfe> hey everyone |
| 19:37:40 | <nribeka> hey bwolfe |
| 19:37:56 | <nribeka> where is everybody |
| 19:38:13 | <bwolfe> I dunno, its been a little lean in here that last couple of days |
| 19:39:32 | <nribeka> last week of the term probably. last two term here in pitt |
| 19:39:47 | <nribeka> ups ... last two weeks of the term |
| 19:40:12 | <bwolfe> so this is dead week? |
| 19:40:17 | <bwolfe> or going into dead week? |
| 19:41:16 | <nribeka> hehe ... one down, four to go here |
| 19:42:57 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 19:43:08 | <bwolfe> /almost/ one down |
| 19:43:16 | <bwolfe> don't count your chickens... |
| 19:44:06 | <nribeka> lolz ... true |
| 19:44:28 | <nribeka> just finish with the exam |
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| 20:02:20 | <r0bby> File f = new File("new.txt"); |
| 20:02:21 | <r0bby> new File("names.txt").eachLine { f << it.toUpperCase() +"\n" } |
| 20:02:22 | <r0bby> :D |
| 20:02:25 | <r0bby> nice :) |
| 20:02:42 | <r0bby> I was helping a lazy dude on the groovy mailing list |
| 20:03:18 | <bwolfe> r0bby: see, how is that even readable? |
| 20:03:27 | <bwolfe> are "<<" common in groovy? What does it do? |
| 20:03:33 | <bwolfe> are=is |
| 20:03:34 | <r0bby> writes to the file |
| 20:03:38 | <r0bby> operator overloading. |
| 20:04:20 | <r0bby> they overload the left and right shift operators a lot. |
| 20:04:21 | <bwolfe> aside: is it still called "overloading" if there is no definition in the first place. shouldn't it be just "operator loading"? :-p |
| 20:04:27 | <bwolfe> ah yes |
| 20:04:32 | <bwolfe> forgot about the bit shift stuff |
| 20:04:51 | <bwolfe> interesting |
| 20:05:14 | <r0bby> bwolfe: append everything from names.txt and make it uppercase then add a new line to f. |
| 20:05:16 | <bwolfe> I love that it comes out to a 2 line answer...but the java equivalent of 4-5 lines would read easier :-p |
| 20:05:47 | <bwolfe> funny out "it" is the default looping variable |
| 20:05:57 | <HongJun> hi, bwolfe, how is the SoC application going |
| 20:06:06 | <r0bby> bwolfe : *BZZT* |
| 20:06:16 | <r0bby> it's the implicit argument to a closure |
| 20:07:57 | <bwolfe> HongJun: applications are inching along :-p |
| 20:08:32 | <bwolfe> we discussed some of the possible projects today and gave a bunch of devs some homework to read through their potential ones |
| 20:09:22 | <bwolfe> r0bby: so "eachLine" is a method that takes in a function, am I getting that right ? |
| 20:09:22 | <r0bby> bwolfe: did mine get through :( |
| 20:09:30 | <r0bby> it takes a Closure |
| 20:09:46 | <r0bby> whicb basically is a function so yes |
| 20:09:48 | <bwolfe> r0bby: I can't really discuss any kinds of goings on |
| 20:09:52 | <bwolfe> kinds=kind |
| 20:09:57 | <r0bby> :< |
| 20:10:03 | <bwolfe> right, I love javascript closures |
| 20:10:07 | <bwolfe> very convenient |
| 20:10:12 | <r0bby> this is equivilent |
| 20:10:30 | <bwolfe> so methods that take in a closure must use curly braces? |
| 20:10:33 | <bwolfe> or is that a groovy thing? |
| 20:10:44 | <r0bby> new File("names.txt").eachLine { line -> f << line } |
| 20:11:05 | <r0bby> it needs curly braces |
| 20:11:11 | <r0bby> also |
| 20:11:25 | <r0bby> erm nvm |
| 20:11:26 | <bwolfe> man, really not a fan of operator overloading |
| 20:11:34 | <bwolfe> breaks the ability to always know whats happening |
| 20:11:36 | <r0bby> I abused them :) |
| 20:11:50 | <r0bby> I made 5 - 5 equal 10 :) |
| 20:12:15 | <bwolfe> kind of like perl....there are 10 ways to do it, and if you don't know the functions the writer used, its /really/ hard to read |
| 20:12:40 | * bwolfe hates perl |
| 20:12:47 | * bwolfe loves python! |
| 20:13:22 | <r0bby> bwolfe: it's just experience you learn where operators are overloaded |
| 20:13:48 | <bwolfe> so groovy doesn't allow the end programmer to do it themselves? |
| 20:13:56 | <r0bby> sure you can |
| 20:13:58 | <bwolfe> overloading operators are set, or a programable? |
| 20:14:02 | <bwolfe> bah, see, there you do |
| 20:14:03 | <r0bby> programmable. |
| 20:14:05 | <bwolfe> do=go |
| 20:14:14 | <bwolfe> crap. total crap. |
| 20:14:24 | <r0bby> hold on let me show you the mixin post i made |
| 20:14:25 | <r0bby> :) |
| 20:14:32 | <bwolfe> I'm totally voting down the groovy project. whomever is attached to that better pick a new one quick. ;-) |
| 20:14:40 | <r0bby> :( |
| 20:14:41 | <r0bby> dont!!!! |
| 20:14:42 | <r0bby> :( |
| 20:15:05 | <r0bby> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-groovy-mixins-syntax.html |
| 20:15:05 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1nCq> (at robbyoconnor.blogspot.com) |
| 20:15:09 | <r0bby> why? |
| 20:15:18 | <HongJun> I love python too |
| 20:15:25 | <r0bby> i can't pick a new one... |
| 20:15:41 | <nribeka> haha ... |
| 20:15:41 | <nribeka> robby go and prepare some hitman for bwolfe |
| 20:15:46 | <HongJun> Programming in Python is really amazing |
| 20:15:54 | <r0bby> That is what i call abuse |
| 20:15:55 | <r0bby> :) |
| 20:17:03 | <bwolfe> r0bby: you need to jack up the mem needs to 512 to run that little bit of code?! :-/ |
| 20:17:13 | <r0bby> no |
| 20:17:14 | <bwolfe> HongJun: yep, python is such a breeze |
| 20:17:16 | <r0bby> just to compile it |
| 20:17:31 | <r0bby> the groovy compiler |
| 20:17:42 | <bwolfe> HongJun: I haven't done much straight up python coding...most of what I do (did) was through and in zope |
| 20:18:06 | <bwolfe> I've done my fair share of scripting for the website, feed, etc...in python of course |
| 20:18:07 | <HongJun> bwolfe: I have used Django and Turbogears |
| 20:18:23 | <bwolfe> HongJun: yeah, feed.openmrs.org uses django |
| 20:18:31 | <bwolfe> haven't used turbogears |
| 20:18:57 | <bwolfe> r0bby: mixin is what they're calling overloading? |
| 20:19:02 | <r0bby> no. |
| 20:19:11 | <r0bby> mixins allow you to add functionality to a class |
| 20:19:29 | <r0bby> not overloading -- i just overloaded because i felt like it :) |
| 20:19:31 | <HongJun> bwolfe: These tow agile web frameworks have largerly simplified web development |
| 20:19:45 | * bwolfe makes nice with r0bby's hitman and redirects him to nribeka |
| 20:20:10 | <bwolfe> HongJun: do you know which one is more popular? |
| 20:20:11 | <r0bby> don't vote mine down :< |
| 20:20:27 | <r0bby> it'll be neat the things i have planned :) |
| 20:20:32 | <HongJun> bwolfe: I like TG more than Django |
| 20:20:55 | <HongJun> bwolfe: I think TG is more poplular for Web2.0 |
| 20:21:01 | * nribeka try to bribe robby's hitman |
| 20:21:04 | <r0bby> Paul and burke wanna integrate grails |
| 20:22:03 | <bwolfe> r0bby: I'd rather see python integration than groovy integration... :-p |
| 20:22:17 | <r0bby> heh |
| 20:22:21 | <bwolfe> python seems like a better starter scripting language than groovy |
| 20:22:29 | <bwolfe> groovy has the potential to just confuse new programmers more |
| 20:22:42 | <r0bby> but i plan on writing a Domain Specific Language for creating a form seamlessly |
| 20:22:43 | <bwolfe> (which is why we want some sort of scriptable pages in the first place) |
| 20:22:43 | <HongJun> The community of TG is more active |
| 20:22:51 | <r0bby> groovy makes it easy |
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| 20:23:18 | <r0bby> but i can't do that til i have the groundwork down somehow i have to generate controllers; i'll prolly use velocity |
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| 20:26:46 | <burke_away> velocity? |
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| 20:28:59 | <bwolfe> yes, how so velocity r0bby ? |
| 20:29:59 | <r0bby> bwolfe: i figure i'll template out the Controller |
| 20:30:06 | <r0bby> since it will be the same in most cases |
| 20:30:18 | <r0bby> that way people pass in the pieces needed |
| 20:30:26 | <r0bby> and i generate the controller from that |
| 20:30:44 | <r0bby> just thinking of ways to make this less clunky |
| 20:31:11 | <bwolfe> aside: tab-completion is giving me bad habits. I've found I tab-complete everything. :-/ In that last statement I typed "how so vel<tab>" thinking xchat would somehow know I was wanting "how so velocity"! *sigh* |
| 20:31:29 | <bwolfe> less clunky is good |
| 20:31:35 | <burke> bwolfe: "man, really not a fan of operator overloading" |
| 20:31:37 | <burke> bwolfe-- |
| 20:31:48 | <burke> :p |
| 20:31:55 | <r0bby> burke: if i get in to SOC |
| 20:31:58 | <bwolfe> burke-- for liking overloading |
| 20:32:01 | <r0bby> i'll see what :) |
| 20:32:02 | <burke> encounter = encounter - obs |
| 20:32:05 | <burke> or... |
| 20:32:09 | <burke> encounter = encounter + obs |
| 20:32:11 | <burke> :-) |
| 20:32:13 | <bwolfe> its convenient and all...and potentially very confusing |
| 20:32:25 | <r0bby> burke I have a slew od ideas |
| 20:32:32 | <burke> oh yes. encounter = encounter + obs is *very* confusing. :p |
| 20:32:45 | <r0bby> velocity would allow me to to template out the controller |
| 20:32:46 | <bwolfe> it is! |
| 20:32:50 | <burke> anything can be confusing if done right |
| 20:32:51 | <bwolfe> does that add the obs to the encounter? |
| 20:32:56 | <burke> i've seen plenty of java that's confusing too |
| 20:32:56 | <r0bby> since that's what it does! |
| 20:32:57 | <bwolfe> or set that encounter on the obs ? |
| 20:33:00 | <bwolfe> or both? |
| 20:33:11 | <r0bby> bwolfe: String = "this " + "that"; |
| 20:33:14 | <bwolfe> or what if a module overloaded your overloading and that not meant "remove the obs" ? |
| 20:33:16 | <r0bby> java already does it. |
| 20:33:23 | <burke> encounter = encounter + obs would *obviously* mark the patient as dead |
| 20:33:38 | <bwolfe> r0bby: yes, but obs and encounter are two different objects...with potentially very different outcomes |
| 20:33:47 | <bwolfe> burke: yes, that was my next guess |
| 20:33:53 | <burke> StringBuilder sb = new StringBuilder(); |
| 20:33:57 | <burke> sb.append("this"); |
| 20:33:58 | <r0bby> bwolfe: combine the two into one object |
| 20:34:03 | <burke> sb.append("that"); |
| 20:34:06 | <burke> sb.toString(); |
| 20:34:18 | <burke> much easier to understand and only 100000000000000000 lines of code. :-) |
| 20:34:21 | <r0bby> sb.append("this").append(" that").toString(); |
| 20:34:30 | <r0bby> *WHOOSH* |
| 20:34:37 | <burke> hehe |
| 20:34:44 | <r0bby> chaining++ |
| 20:34:53 | <burke> Maybe we need a language without whitespace |
| 20:34:56 | <burke> the anti-python |
| 20:35:05 | <r0bby> burke++ |
| 20:35:06 | <burke> aka Google's javascript |
| 20:35:17 | <r0bby> that's why you need to let me in to groovy up this project! |
| 20:35:21 | <burke> variable name size limit = 1 |
| 20:36:19 | <burke> r0bby: the controller could be a simple groovy script |
| 20:37:02 | <r0bby> i suppose; but it needs to be java... |
| 20:37:25 | <r0bby> the groovy script primarily just generates the java code needed :) |
| 20:37:51 | <r0bby> but i suppose |
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| 20:38:45 | <burke> http://pastebin.com/d483efa52 |
| 20:39:11 | <r0bby> perfect |
| 20:39:13 | <burke> groovy IS java...er, you can turn it into a class |
| 20:39:24 | <r0bby> burke: it does things java doesn't |
| 20:39:32 | <r0bby> not java 100% |
| 20:39:47 | <r0bby> overloads == to call .equals() |
| 20:39:48 | <burke> so you can't make a class file from it? |
| 20:39:59 | <r0bby> int x = "hey"; // compiles but blows up at runtime |
| 20:40:06 | <r0bby> i suppose we could |
| 20:40:07 | <docpaul> well, in theory, since groovy is java.... there has to be a java equivalent for everything that groovy does |
| 20:40:40 | <burke> docpaul's internet is working! or is this via cell phone connection? |
| 20:40:43 | <burke> :p |
| 20:41:01 | <nribeka> docpaul is up |
| 20:41:28 | <docpaul> no, it's real. :) |
| 20:41:31 | <r0bby> but it's the closest scripting language to java :) |
| 20:42:15 | <burke> with DSL -- er, not the internet thing...a domain-specific language -- we could make a nice environment for folks |
| 20:42:41 | <r0bby> burke: that is opne thing im excited about |
| 20:42:44 | <r0bby> I wanna do that |
| 20:43:07 | <burke> and by catching AssertError and being smart about translating into feedback to the user, you could do validation with simple assert statements |
| 20:43:12 | <burke> e.g., assert patient != null |
| 20:43:24 | <r0bby> yeh |
| 20:43:25 | <burke> er... assert patient != null "Patient cannot be null" |
| 20:43:34 | <r0bby> yup |
| 20:43:41 | <burke> er... assert patient != null, "Patient cannot be null" |
| 20:43:51 | <burke> i think ya need that comma |
| 20:44:01 | <r0bby> is bwolfe votes me down, i'm sending a hitman his way |
| 20:44:12 | <r0bby> the best and cheapest |
| 20:44:17 | * burke thinks bwolfe IS the hitman |
| 20:44:31 | <r0bby> oh saves me money |
| 20:44:38 | * r0bby gives bwolfe some sharp objects |
| 20:45:49 | <r0bby> my head hurts |
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| 20:46:43 | <burke> "lonelyt".reverse() |
| 20:47:04 | <r0bby> :) |
| 20:54:02 | <napi> docpaul is asking me some questions about my application |
| 20:54:07 | <napi> the last one was; "do you like treacle tarts?" |
| 20:54:23 | <napi> love it |
| 20:55:07 | <r0bby> nobody asked me question |
| 20:55:55 | <napi> r0bby |
| 20:55:59 | <napi> do you like victoria sponge? |
| 20:56:04 | <r0bby> ... |
| 20:56:25 | <napi> :) |
| 20:56:54 | <r0bby> burke: are you allowed to say where my application stands? |
| 20:57:06 | <napi> on 2 feet? |
| 20:57:07 | <napi> :p |
| 20:57:27 | <napi> (I apologise... it's late and I've had a bit to drink) |
| 20:57:29 | <r0bby> bwolfe said he couldn't or wouldnt :( |
| 20:57:42 | <burke> nope. it wouldn't be fair. |
| 20:57:42 | <r0bby> friends dont let friends code plasteredc |
| 20:57:52 | <burke> can't make any promises, sorry. |
| 20:58:00 | <r0bby> :< |
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| 20:58:26 | <burke> we're still working through the applications and prioritizing projects |
| 20:58:51 | <r0bby> how many applicants for openmrs? |
| 20:59:01 | <burke> and we won't find out the exact number of slots we get until just before 4/21...when Google releases the students |
| 20:59:24 | <burke> in the 50-100 range |
| 20:59:29 | <r0bby> eeeek |
| 20:59:39 | <burke> amazingly, all but two were for the groovy module |
| 20:59:40 | <burke> :p |
| 21:00:03 | <napi> rofl |
| 21:00:05 | <docpaul> pahaha... r0bby's got some competition |
| 21:00:22 | <docpaul> i think the winner will be who can have worse irc manners. :) |
| 21:01:21 | <napi> I'm off to bed. night all |
| 21:01:27 | <burke> g'night napi |
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| 21:04:52 | <docpaul> burke: i got this router: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US %2FLayout&cid=1175237911752&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=1175239789B03 |
| 21:05:49 | <burke> r0bby: there's only one app really competing with yours...some guy named Graeme Rocher. every heard of him? |
| 21:06:00 | <burke> docpaul: tinyurl? |
| 21:06:23 | <docpaul> http://tinyurl.com/4568er |
| 21:07:03 | <burke> geez. it looks like something that should be orbiting earth |
| 21:07:21 | <docpaul> exactly. :) |
| 21:07:24 | <napi> rofl |
| 21:07:39 | <burke> I don't see where the coffee cup goes in. |
| 21:07:48 | <burke> er...diet coke glass. |
| 21:08:08 | <docpaul> as soon as i saw it, i had to have it |
| 21:08:14 | <docpaul> and it was under 200 at fry's |
| 21:08:40 | <napi> right i'm actually off now. docpaul has sent me to bed lol |
| 21:08:41 | <r0bby> HOLY FUC |
| 21:08:42 | <napi> ttfn |
| 21:08:48 | <r0bby> hes not! |
| 21:09:08 | <r0bby> Graeme Rocher is ... the grails guy! |
| 21:09:19 | <burke> :p |
| 21:09:23 | <docpaul> hahaha |
| 21:09:44 | <docpaul> how do you think you stack up r0bb0? |
| 21:09:52 | <r0bby> poorly |
| 21:09:58 | <napi> r0bby, sux 2 be u :x |
| 21:09:59 | <r0bby> as he's also a commiter to groovy |
| 21:10:02 | * napi cuddles r0bby |
| 21:10:09 | <r0bby> :| |
| 21:10:14 | <napi> want a cookie? |
| 21:10:16 | <docpaul> you better get ta dancin! |
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| 21:10:29 | <r0bby> is Graeme even a student... |
| 21:12:23 | <burke> aha! you've got him now! |
| 21:12:56 | <docpaul> he has a pretty good blog |
| 21:13:08 | <docpaul> but he's not nearly as charmy as r0bby |
| 21:13:14 | <docpaul> er, charming |
| 21:13:21 | <r0bby> He |
| 21:13:23 | <r0bby> s smart. |
| 21:13:33 | <r0bby> He created grails :) |
| 21:13:52 | <r0bby> and would actually be more capable than I to accomplish grails integration |
| 21:14:02 | <r0bby> you better be joking |
| 21:14:58 | <docpaul> if you get the nod over graeme, will you code circles around him? |
| 21:15:26 | <r0bby> what do you mean? |
| 21:15:35 | <bwolfe> rocher? his app was pretty weak. pretty good experience though |
| 21:16:01 | <r0bby> he has a lot of fucking experience |
| 21:16:13 | <docpaul> but he's not r0bb0 |
| 21:16:19 | <nribeka> robby vs rocher |
| 21:16:24 | <docpaul> and that's hard to replace |
| 21:16:26 | <burke> the others had weird names too... like Dierk Koenig, Andrew Glover, Paul King, Guillaume Laforge and Jon Skeet |
| 21:16:34 | <r0bby> LOL |
| 21:16:41 | <r0bby> you're throwing names around now lol |
| 21:16:43 | <burke> they all claimed to have written some manual or something |
| 21:16:51 | <r0bby> Groovy in Action... |
| 21:17:00 | <docpaul> :) |
| 21:17:02 | <burke> yeah. that sounds right. |
| 21:17:09 | <docpaul> can't pull anything past you now, can we rob? |
| 21:17:16 | <r0bby> No :) |
| 21:17:21 | <burke> I was remembering it as "Grovoy Reaction" ... but it just didn't sound right... |
| 21:17:23 | <r0bby> because i know the groovy community :) |
| 21:17:33 | <r0bby> and the grails community :P |
| 21:18:03 | <burke> actually, we're considering tabling the Groovy Form Module idea, because we talked it over and all agreed that it couldn't be done. |
| 21:18:31 | <burke> it's impossible |
| 21:18:39 | <burke> what were we thinking? |
| 21:18:41 | <docpaul> i'm not sure r0bb0 would be up to the task? |
| 21:18:42 | <bwolfe> I think python would be easier |
| 21:19:01 | <bwolfe> rocher maybe... |
| 21:19:02 | <burke> and I think there's already a GroovyFormModule library in Ruby |
| 21:19:08 | <bwolfe> haha |
| 21:19:19 | <docpaul> heh, good one |
| 21:19:51 | <docpaul> there's probably an MedicalRecordSystem library in Ruby |
| 21:20:32 | <r0bby> so i |
| 21:20:37 | <burke> Actually, it's an OpenMRS library in Ruby written by Mike McCay three years ago. |
| 21:20:40 | <r0bby> bah. |
| 21:20:41 | <r0bby> :( |
| 21:20:47 | <burke> he blogged about it..."it was fun!" :p |
| 21:20:55 | <bwolfe> took him 10 mins |
| 21:21:05 | <bwolfe> 10 mins to write and 15 mins to blog about it |
| 21:21:09 | <r0bby> I was up for teh challenge |
| 21:21:14 | <docpaul> robby: cheer up, we're just razzing you. :) |
| 21:21:27 | <r0bby> you're torturing me :' |
| 21:21:28 | <r0bby> ( |
| 21:21:41 | <nribeka> send some more hitmen rob |
| 21:21:55 | <r0bby> already dispatched |
| 21:22:06 | <r0bby> i might have sent them to you nribeka |
| 21:22:08 | <nribeka> haha lolz |
| 21:22:34 | <nribeka> i'm not in the competition with you rob. |
| 21:22:40 | <nribeka> i'm innocent |
| 21:22:52 | * nribeka is hidding |
| 21:22:59 | <r0bby> I know but I need paul and burke more |
| 21:23:38 | <HongJun> bwolfe: i haven't heard any opinion from Darius Jazayeri, does he is too busy to have time to review my applicaiton? |
| 21:24:23 | <nribeka> robby: haha lol |
| 21:25:02 | <r0bby> nribeka: hit men get over-ambitious |
| 21:25:10 | <r0bby> but don't worry.. the guys i sent are bad shots |
| 21:25:17 | <bwolfe> HongJun: hmm, not sure. darius is a busy guy though |
| 21:25:22 | <r0bby> they're the mister magoos of hitmen |
| 21:26:03 | <nribeka> lol |
| 21:26:35 | <bwolfe> HongJun: we did some shuffling of who will be assigned to which project...so it might be someone else that does your final review |
| 21:26:41 | <r0bby> once, they shot a washing machine |
| 21:27:07 | <r0bby> i wish there way a way to move a connection from one system to another w/o dropping it |
| 21:27:09 | <HongJun> bwolfe: ok, thank you |
| 21:27:52 | <bwolfe> r0bby: ha... |
| 21:27:58 | <bwolfe> move bits through the air?? |
| 21:28:08 | <r0bby> yeh |
| 21:28:15 | <bwolfe> what do you think...some sort of "wireless" connection? thats ridiculous! oh wait... |
| 21:28:28 | <r0bby> it's a pipe dream |
| 21:28:39 | <r0bby> pun intended |
| 21:28:50 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 21:28:52 | <bwolfe> boo |
| 21:28:55 | <bwolfe> double boo |
| 21:28:58 | <bwolfe> puns-- |
| 21:29:09 | <bwolfe> burke's puns-- |
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| 21:41:51 | <burke> okay, kiddies. gotta run. cheers! |
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| 21:43:27 | <r0bby> later |
| 21:44:46 | <nribeka> later burke |
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| 22:14:13 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3891]: Creating complex_obs branch for bmckown <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3891> |
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| 23:39:11 | <hunger__> hey everyone |
| 23:55:27 | <r0bby> hey |
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| 23:59:55 | <bwolfe> hey hunger__ |