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| 01:41:04 | <r0bby> burke: http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-groovy-mixins-syntax.html |
| 01:41:05 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1nCq> (at robbyoconnor.blogspot.com) |
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| 07:39:37 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3880]: updated for newer version of OpenMRS <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3880> || OpenMRS Modules: Jasper Report 1.4.9 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=jasperreport&version=&1.4.9> |
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| 08:39:54 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3882]: -- patient matching * updated jars to get patient matching working as a ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3882> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3881]: -- patientmatching * reverted previous change <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3881> |
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| 09:10:08 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3883]: -- patient matching * added an sql diff to create the linkagetable when ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3883> |
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| 09:40:14 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: News Blog: OpenMRS 1.2.01 Released <http://blog.openmrs.org/?p=64> |
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| 09:59:24 | <bwolfe> jmiranda: do we have anything left to do for next week? |
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| 09:59:45 | <bwolfe> jmiranda: I got an email from them and registered yesterday |
| 10:00:03 | <jmiranda> jmiranda: nope. i emailed karie about the tutorials |
| 10:01:05 | <jmiranda> she said: I put you down for 2 open tutorials, just so you had the full pass available to you. Once you arrive, we can try and switch it around to what you want (no promises though). |
| 10:01:31 | <jmiranda> i asked about the rest of the week, but she didn't respond to it directly |
| 10:01:36 | <bwolfe> jmiranda: haha, so we might get something random? |
| 10:01:43 | <jmiranda> i guess |
| 10:01:54 | <bwolfe> jmiranda: did you put down andreas's or tom's name? |
| 10:02:00 | <jmiranda> but monday afternoon tutorials look awful anyway |
| 10:02:04 | <jmiranda> no |
| 10:02:09 | <jmiranda> i didn't know they were coming |
| 10:02:57 | <bwolfe> jmiranda: hmm, thought you were on that email thread. |
| 10:03:06 | <bwolfe> I don't know that they are for sure, but I did offer them the chance |
| 10:03:30 | <jmiranda> i was under the impression that it didn't matter anyway |
| 10:03:46 | <jmiranda> we only get one full pass that we have to share |
| 10:03:55 | <jmiranda> but i'll send a message to karie |
| 10:05:02 | <bwolfe> ah |
| 10:05:11 | <bwolfe> I figured they would need names to let people in |
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| 10:10:21 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3884]: Clinical Summary Module: Added separate sql file for inserting new ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3884> |
| 10:10:29 | <jmiranda> bwolfe: i was assuming that the exhibitor area was not going to be as secure as the sessions |
| 10:10:40 | <jmiranda> i emailed karie |
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| 10:40:30 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3885]: -- sockethl7listener * changed TestSimpleServer schedulable task to ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3885> |
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| 14:44:25 | * pearlbear nudges [OmegentooX] |
| 14:45:10 | <pearlbear> it's weird, [OmegentooX] I still haven't gotten your email. I have the one from 4/6, sent to me and Paul. That's not the one you mean, right? A new one? |
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| 15:46:32 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #677 (task closed): Unable to Add Observations in 1.2.01 <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/677#comment:2> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3886]: Fixing #677: Unable to Add Observations in 1.2.01 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3886> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #677 (task created): Unable to Add Observations in 1.2.01 <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/677> |
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| 17:18:04 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: No Concept_id in Concept_map table <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=359#p1173> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #664 (task closed): Saving an existing concept with numeric datatype <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/664#comment:2> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3888]: Fixing ability to edit numeric concepts - #664 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3888> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #216 (defect closed): Add concept_map.concept_id as FK to concept.concept_id <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/216#comment:3> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3887]: Fixing #216: Add concept_map.concept_id as FK to concept.concept_id <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3887> |
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| 17:29:46 | <Keelhaul> 1.2.02 already =o |
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| 20:18:44 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #678 (enhancement created): Add id's to navigation links and patient overview boxes <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/678> |
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| 20:48:48 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #679 (enhancement created): Add extension point to patientOverview.jsp for adding boxes <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/679> |
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| 21:45:33 | <[OmegentooX]> pearlbear, yes, a new email |
| 21:45:38 | <[OmegentooX]> pearlbear, I'll just /msg it to you |
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| 21:46:44 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, heya |
| 21:46:46 | <docpaul> hello! |
| 21:47:24 | <pearlbear> hi docpaul |
| 21:48:23 | <docpaul> heya matt, michelle. :) |
| 21:48:28 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, got internet in the new place yet? |
| 21:49:20 | <pearlbear> docpaul: fyi - haven't heard from WHO folks yet |
| 21:49:25 | <docpaul> yes, as of last night |
| 21:49:32 | <docpaul> michelle: so, if you don |
| 21:49:51 | <docpaul> t by the time I leave for italy next week... i'll be with them in person next week |
| 21:49:59 | <docpaul> so we'll sort through all of it soon enough |
| 21:50:08 | <[OmegentooX]> Italy! |
| 21:51:57 | <docpaul> yap... been before? |
| 21:52:09 | <[OmegentooX]> Nope, I wish. I have some family there, somewhere |
| 21:52:14 | <docpaul> neat |
| 21:52:40 | <pearlbear> docpaul: ok, sounds good |
| 21:53:02 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, any count for the # of SoC apps this year? |
| 21:53:18 | <docpaul> less than last year... which is a good thing. :) |
| 21:53:21 | <[OmegentooX]> lol |
| 21:53:23 | <docpaul> lemme check |
| 21:53:56 | <[OmegentooX]> Whatever happened to last year's guys? I'm completely unaware of anyone that didn't hang out on the IRC |
| 21:54:14 | <docpaul> involved at various levels |
| 21:54:23 | <[OmegentooX]> Cool |
| 21:54:24 | <docpaul> some continue to be involved |
| 21:54:32 | <docpaul> others have totally disappeared |
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| 21:54:53 | <docpaul> which i guess is fairly typical from what leslie has said |
| 21:54:59 | <[OmegentooX]> Yeah =/ |
| 21:55:26 | <docpaul> we were diluted in some ways by the fact that we instituted our own mentorship program as well |
| 21:55:34 | <docpaul> which brought with it 6 folks |
| 21:57:53 | <[OmegentooX]> Ooo |
| 21:58:54 | <docpaul> my guess is we'll have 10 again |
| 21:59:09 | <docpaul> which is fantastic given the current mentorship demands. :) |
| 21:59:30 | <docpaul> so, did burke have a talk with you about our conversation? |
| 21:59:41 | <docpaul> our being... burke and I? |
| 21:59:48 | <[OmegentooX]> Yup yup.. pearlbear and I were just scheduling a meeting in person in /msg =) |
| 22:00:06 | <docpaul> wonderful. |
| 22:10:38 | <pearlbear> I'm going to be sending out another email about the documentation stuff tomorrow - I think it makes sense, for now, to stick with mediawiki. So the next step is to work on the doc structure and organization |
| 22:11:35 | <docpaul> do you think there's a pathway out of mediawiki if the demand arises? |
| 22:12:04 | <docpaul> i think i agree with you in that there might be value in simply organizing what's already there |
| 22:12:10 | <docpaul> to start. |
| 22:12:56 | <pearlbear> there's always a pathway, the question is, how steep. :-) I think it's hard to say without knowing what might be next. Migrating to a different wiki won't be too bad. Migrating to a completely different platform might be harder |
| 22:13:31 | <pearlbear> it felt like what I heard was the major pain was organization, not the tool itself |
| 22:13:48 | <[OmegentooX]> From my experience with mediawiki syntax, exporting can be difficult. Obviously, HTML is already there and that can be used by most anything though |
| 22:14:23 | <[OmegentooX]> Alternate MediaWiki parsers for exporting to different formats: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Alternative_parsers |
| 22:14:23 | <pearlbear> but there are increasing numbers of wiki translation tools... |
| 22:14:24 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1nXl> (at meta.wikimedia.org) |
| 22:15:23 | <pearlbear> wow, I'm impressed OpenMRSBot |
| 22:15:26 | <docpaul> here's the big problem with mediawiki, and it might be solvable within mediawiki itself |
| 22:15:47 | <docpaul> people naturally want to be able to search documentation |
| 22:16:04 | <docpaul> as it stands, searches today are global |
| 22:16:22 | <docpaul> b/c some of the pages are documenttion and some are community support kind of stuff |
| 22:16:29 | <docpaul> it makes search results sucky |
| 22:16:44 | <docpaul> that doesn't even speak to the style of search results we currently get |
| 22:17:03 | <docpaul> but i bet with some mediawiki coercion you could circumvent both issues |
| 22:17:04 | <pearlbear> right. This should be solvable, I agree |
| 22:17:19 | <docpaul> but when people want to search documentation, they should only get documentation |
| 22:17:30 | <pearlbear> right |
| 22:17:34 | <docpaul> categories at some level help with that... |
| 22:17:48 | <docpaul> but it requires that one be dogged about the conventions as they build |
| 22:17:56 | <docpaul> we spoke with karl fogel last week |
| 22:18:12 | <docpaul> and he said that we'll likely need to evolve the community role of curator |
| 22:18:16 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, you can create "categories in mediawiki" for searching |
| 22:18:16 | <pearlbear> yeah, it is true that building a really good wiki takes a lot of gardening |
| 22:18:26 | <[OmegentooX]> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=category%3Aopenmrs&go=Search searches the "openmrs" category |
| 22:18:31 | <docpaul> right... that was the point |
| 22:18:35 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1nXm> (at openmrs.org) |
| 22:19:00 | <docpaul> [OmegentooX]: yep... for sure, but once again... we'd have to create community conventions such that things were tagged correctly with proper categories |
| 22:19:10 | <docpaul> or simply have a curator keep up with the incoming work |
| 22:19:11 | <[OmegentooX]> Yup |
| 22:19:29 | <[OmegentooX]> Curators, eh. Responsible community, yay =) |
| 22:19:31 | <docpaul> so, i leave it up to you both to help us evolve a better way |
| 22:20:00 | <docpaul> and then i can help create the culture around those ideas... along with burkey the turkey |
| 22:20:23 | <[OmegentooX]> lol |
| 22:21:09 | <pearlbear> :-) |
| 22:21:34 | <docpaul> part of helping us evolve a better way to me = |
| 22:21:53 | <docpaul> getting consensus around better conventions with those closest to OpenMRS |
| 22:22:00 | <[OmegentooX]> yup |
| 22:22:03 | <pearlbear> agreed |
| 22:22:05 | <docpaul> making some clear examples |
| 22:22:29 | <docpaul> poking those closest to follow your lead |
| 22:22:52 | <docpaul> i can help with the rest |
| 22:23:11 | <docpaul> help us turn documentation into what the cool kids are doing |
| 22:23:28 | <pearlbear> yup, exactly. :-) |
| 22:23:37 | <[OmegentooX]> All you need are lots of buzzwords and Web 2.0 stuff |
| 22:23:40 | <docpaul> part of that means getting people into a bit of a lather with good examples that make them want to see more of that |
| 22:23:42 | <[OmegentooX]> And suddenly documentation is "in" |
| 22:24:06 | <pearlbear> [OmegentooX]: not my strategy... :-P |
| 22:24:11 | <docpaul> hehe |
| 22:24:21 | <[OmegentooX]> lol |
| 22:24:40 | <pearlbear> I think examples are really key |
| 22:24:53 | <docpaul> like really sexy examples |
| 22:24:56 | <pearlbear> plus also finding ways to grease the path to make documentation easier |
| 22:25:06 | <docpaul> with all the cool conventions that one could use |
| 22:25:42 | <docpaul> images, breakout boxes, lots of making link simplification things, etc |
| 22:25:59 | <pearlbear> yup |
| 22:26:00 | <docpaul> just cool stuff to make it easy, fun to do |
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| 22:26:15 | <pearlbear> OK, more tomorrow. I'm off for the night. l8r... |
| 22:26:18 | <[OmegentooX]> Lots of tags that automatically insert Web 2.0 stuff into the doc and make it look like OS X |
| 22:26:20 | <docpaul> night. :) |
| 22:26:23 | <docpaul> yeah |
| 22:26:24 | <[OmegentooX]> Night |
| 22:26:30 | <docpaul> osx = cool |
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| 22:26:38 | <[OmegentooX]> Yeah, I heard you're a convert now |
| 22:27:21 | <docpaul> yes i am... what converted me was seeing bootcamp and vmware fusion working together magically |
| 22:27:27 | <docpaul> like two peas in a pod |
| 22:27:27 | <[OmegentooX]> Yup =) |
| 22:27:40 | <[OmegentooX]> Got an iPhone yet? |
| 22:27:46 | <docpaul> that is my security blanket |
| 22:27:58 | <docpaul> nope... waiting to see what the gphone stuff looks like |
| 22:28:05 | <docpaul> might not be able to hold off thogh |
| 22:28:07 | <docpaul> heh |
| 22:28:27 | <[OmegentooX]> Yeah, you'll be waiting a while |
| 22:28:34 | <[OmegentooX]> Just wait until the iPhone upgrades in June |
| 22:29:45 | <[OmegentooX]> Android's cool though...I've wanted to mess with it but haven't much |
| 22:30:59 | <docpaul> i bought the absolute top of the line macbook pro, and i think it'd be hard to compete with just the raw hardware, osx (which for me is more about the unix like attributes - and spaces than anything), and full winxp functionality to allow me to find better ways to work in osx in the meantime |
| 22:32:22 | <[OmegentooX]> It's good stuf |
| 22:32:28 | <docpaul> spaces rocks |
| 22:32:39 | <[OmegentooX]> I'd really, really, really like a black MacBook. Especially now that my ThinkPad is dying |
| 22:33:16 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, remind me at some point to update the OpenMRS Dashboard widget I made last summer to work with the newer RSS feed so you can see it in action =) |
| 22:35:08 | <docpaul> cool, i will. :) |
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| 22:35:16 | <[OmegentooX]> Actually, it's not too too bad as is. Try it: http://compiler-error.blogspot.com/2007/05/openmrs-widget.html |
| 22:35:17 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1nXq> (at compiler-error.blogspot.com) |
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| 22:36:43 | <docpaul> coolness |
| 22:37:46 | <[OmegentooX]> I never did update it to filter the tags when those were added though |
| 22:41:58 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, alright, I'm off to do some late-night laundry. Michelle and I aren't scheduled to meet until the 22nd, but in the meantime I'll start work on a proposal based on internet communications |
| 22:42:16 | <docpaul> great |
| 22:42:22 | <docpaul> thanks for the interest! |
| 22:42:41 | <r0bby> docpaul! |
| 22:42:49 | <docpaul> :) |
| 22:42:52 | <[OmegentooX]> I'm excited =D |
| 22:42:53 | <[OmegentooX]> 'night |
| 22:42:55 | <docpaul> heya roberto |
| 22:43:29 | <docpaul> i'm working hard at making a big ole batch of gumbo |
| 22:43:37 | <r0bby> nice |
| 22:43:49 | <docpaul> it takes time... it's a labor of love. :) |
| 22:44:15 | <r0bby> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-groovy-mixins-syntax.html |
| 22:44:15 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1nCq> (at robbyoconnor.blogspot.com) |
| 22:44:32 | <r0bby> i compiled groovy trunk (which will be 1.6) |
| 22:47:08 | <docpaul> cool |
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| 22:57:43 | <r0bby> docpaul: that's what i call operator overloading amuse :) |
| 23:12:30 | <Keelhaul> jstl is awful D? |
| 23:12:30 | <Keelhaul> D= |
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