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<sara> hi
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<OpenMRSBot> sara: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Factoids, Herald, Karma, Misc, NickCapture, Owner, RSS, Reply, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Status, and User
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<Keelhaul> hi
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<sara> looks like a neat project
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<Keelhaul> yep
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<_sara> i'm just checking out the demo :D
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<Keelhaul> =)
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<_sara> i have to reformat some data
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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: whats our status on getting the wiki to the new server
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<jmiranda> bwolfe: awhile back i saw your comment about ticket #624
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<jmiranda> !ticket 624
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<OpenMRSBot> jmiranda: Ticket #624: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/624
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<bwolfe> yessir
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<jmiranda> and you mentioned that we should be using permissions for that, instead of roles
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<bwolfe> (where permissions=privileges)
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<jmiranda> iyes
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<jmiranda> i'm going to merge the version with roles anyway
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<Keelhaul> hm
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<jmiranda> and go back and work on a version that uses the hasPrivilege() method
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<jmiranda> you ok with scriptlets in those jsp's
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<Keelhaul> is it possible to make the forum rss feed not fetch a new item for every post in the thread every time a new post comes in?
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<bwolfe> jmiranda: its fine as a temporary thing...
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: which rss feed are you going off of ?
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<bwolfe> http://feed.openmrs.org/rss?notag=forum or something like that will give you rss of /everything/ but forum stuff
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<bwolfe> jmiranda: bah, its a 2 min fix to switch to privileges
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<bwolfe> I'd rather have the right code in there than having people using roles in their system
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<bwolfe> right now you'd just have to give james a script to switch to privileges and be done with it
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<jmiranda> with another few days of back-and-forth testing with james
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: the comprehensive one
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<Keelhaul> with all in it
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: thats the comprehensive one that the bot uses to post into here
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<Keelhaul> hhm this one doesnt seem to have forum updates though
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<jmiranda> bwolfe_away: i agree
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<jmiranda> bwolfe_away: i made the change and will test with james this week
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<bwolfe_away> jmiranda: thanks...I knew you'd come around :-)
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<bwolfe_away> Keelhaul: no, that one has zero forum rss notes
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<jmiranda> :)
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<bwolfe_away> Keelhaul: are the forum rss elements tag with multiple tags?
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<bwolfe_away> if so, you could do a notag on those
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<Keelhaul> mine has no params at all
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<Keelhaul> http://feed.openmrs.org/rss
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<Keelhaul> someone posts the n+1st answer
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<Keelhaul> and my rss feed gets n+1 new messages
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<Keelhaul> one for every post in that thread
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<Keelhaul> instead of just one for the latest
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<bwolfe_away> Keelhaul: that seems wrong
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<bwolfe_away> like its a bug in the forum rss
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<Keelhaul> hm
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<Keelhaul> does the forum run on phpbb?
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<bwolfe_away> Keelhaul: you could always just subscribe to the forum (and get emails) and just ignore the forum part of rss
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<bwolfe_away> yeah, phpbb3
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<Keelhaul> yea i know
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<Keelhaul> but i'd prefer to have those in the feed
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<Keelhaul> because i dont have to clean it
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<Keelhaul> i know guys who run phpbb with rss and they dont have that prob
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<Keelhaul> maybe i coudl ask them
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<bwolfe_away> yeah
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<bwolfe_away> see if you can get their rss module, because I don't think its built in
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<bwolfe_away> ours must be bung somehow
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<Keelhaul> which one do you use
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<r0bby> i dont follow the forum
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<r0bby> mailing list is sufficient
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<r0bby> in addition to the rest of the stuff :)
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<Keelhaul> forums are rarely in use
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<bwolfe_away> Keelhaul: @version $Id: syndication.php,v 1.0 2006/11/27 22:29:16 angelside Exp $
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<Keelhaul> ok
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<Keelhaul> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=349668
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1mJy> (at www.phpbb.com)
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<Keelhaul> this one?
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<burke_away> Keelhaul: we lost the forum from our feed aggregator a while ago, I added it back yesterday, but it was putting a session ID in every entry
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<r0bby> o/ burke
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<r0bby> I finally got all my books :D
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<burke> I fixed it earlier today.
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<burke> r0bby: cule.
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<r0bby> burke: Groovy Recipes: Greasing the wheels of java is pretty neat
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<r0bby> it has all the neat tricks groovy can do explained in plain english
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<r0bby> ;po/jj
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<r0bby> er
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<burke> :-)
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<Keelhaul> burke: ah cool
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<burke> if you find some fun stuff, please blog
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<burke> Keelhaul: yes. forum in rss should be much better behaved now
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<burke> it was bugging me too.
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<r0bby> erm oops
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<burke> bug we need it in the feed, b/c it's easy to miss forum posts o/w
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<r0bby> my grails book fell on my laptop's kb and i lost my zero key :(
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<burke> r0bby: then how will you ever type your name?
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<burke> time to move up to r1bby?
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<r0bby> no need :)
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<r0bby> or emotes for that matter :(
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<burke> or rzerobby?
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<r0bby> no :)
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<burke> alt key? :p
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<r0bby> no
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<r0bby> if that breaks then im scdreed
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<r0bby> zero is needed when doing hex literals
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<burke> it will be hard to noop to make warez w/o 0 :p
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<r0bby> heh :P
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<r0bby> dual monitors++
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<r0bby> "D
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<r0bby> dell on laptop :D
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<Keelhaul> what
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<Keelhaul> different size monitors? D=
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<r0bby> 20"
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<r0bby> damn it
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<r0bby> i hate typing zero's now
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<Keelhaul> how did you get a second output
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<Keelhaul> oh a laptop
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<r0bby> LMFAO
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<r0bby> "May I place the chat on hold"
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<Keelhaul> oh = on
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3840]: updated RemoveGroupMember per the code review TODO list <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3840> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3839]: changed encounter.getObs() to recurse ObsGroup heirarchies and return all ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3839> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3838]: Deleting the tribe_permission branch. The code has been merged into ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3838> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3837]: Fixed tribe permission issue - #624 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3837> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3836]: updated the getRelatedObservations method, and comment <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3836> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3835]: added new voidObs and unvoidObs methods for obsGroup cascading <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3835> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3834]: Cleaned up ObsServiceTest and added a method that checks update, save, ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3834> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3833]: adds obsGroup awareness with replacement of encounter.getObs with ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3833> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3832]: changes encounter.getObs() to encounter.getObsAtTopLevel() in ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3832> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3831]: adds obsGroup awareness to getObs(), getObsAtTopLevel(boolean ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3831> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3830]: added testGetRelatedObservations() to test getRelatedObservations() Obs ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3830> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3829]: added an EncounterTest to the j-unit tests to test the three new ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3829> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3828]: small change to css: changed line 5 to level*4em <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3828>
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<burke> place the chat on hold? :-/
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<r0bby> they asked how it happened
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<r0bby> I love dell's online tech support :-)
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<farhat> Hello all,
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<r0bby> I cant even emote LOL
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<farhat> I am a perspective gsoc 2008 student.I have looked up project ideas and I am interested in Boolean Concepts project.I need help getting familiarized with the code and the overall design to put my proposal together..Can someone help me?
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<burke> farhat: sure
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<farhat> ok great
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<r0bby> I really gotta code more
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<r0bby> :(
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<r0bby> s/shell/groovy/
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<r0bby> wait..he's my height
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<r0bby> better write one for me too
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<r0bby> :>
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<r0bby> that'll work
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<r0bby> I cant even code java really
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<r0bby> no parenthesis :|
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<r0bby> closing anyways
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<r0bby> he's gonna kill me
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<r0bby> last time i called him old he kicked me :<
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<r0bby> and this groovy recipe for parsing CSV files is broken
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<r0bby> slightly
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<r0bby> it breaks if the CSV file is malformed (such as if there's a comma at the end or nested commas etc
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<farhat> BURKE > my modem got a hickup i hope I didnt miss your reply
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<burke> farhat: I'm happy to answer any questions you have
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<farhat> are there any more details around it (requirements)
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<farhat> any links
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<burke> hmmm...let me look
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<farhat> also the minimum OUTCOME expected at the end of the project
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<burke> yeah, farhat. that project didn't get the attention like the others...
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<farhat> well from what I understand,it my be quintessential.
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<farhat> your take?
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<burke> well, we've needed that ticket for a while.
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<burke> let me edit the project page...
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<farhat> Do you think my proposal will hold water...I know its not on the top the list but I wll be more than happy to start and finish it..
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<burke> farhat, we will be pushing all projects hard to ensure they have deliverables this summer.
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<farhat> great
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<burke> i.e., last year we aimed a bit too high
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<farhat> I need links to download the code and give it a glance
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<burke> farhat, do you have java and sql/database experience?
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<farhat> extensive exp.
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<farhat> I know swing petty well too.
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<burke> then it might make help to offer to take on a couple of the projects (like tribe to person attribute) as well
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<farhat> what is that?
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<burke> also consider taking a look at trivial tickets and see if you can submit a patch
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<OpenMRSBot> burke: "trivial" --- Looking for a trivial ticket to tackle for OpenMRS? http://tinyurl.com/5jozcz
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<burke> we started with "tribe" as an attribute of the patient table and have evolved to have person as the root (for both patient and users) and would like to remove tribe from the data model (since many implementations don't want it)
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<farhat> how is the object model laid out
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<burke> arrgh
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<farhat> the the java classes a true refelction of the data model
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<farhat> i do see the word DAO in the threads,so is it a servlet > fatory > dao > db kind of a layout
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<burke> !learn model as http://openmrs.org/wiki/Data_Model
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<farhat> i dont see tribe as an attribute in the patient table..hhmm..am i missing something
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<farhat> burke > I think I can handle Move Tribe to a Person Attribute Type and this project and Boolean Concepts together with the bonus ticket ticket:624.I need advise on how to put up a proposal.Will google allow me putting these seperate projects as ONE proposal.
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<burke> farhat: actually, I think the tribe to person_attribute, including building a module, would be a decent-sized project. you could simply add that you'd be happy to take on the boolean project if time is available
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<burke> farhat: you need to demonstrate both the ability and eagerness to code to have the best chances
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<farhat> how do I do that
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<burke> ability can be shown by listing your experience in your application, pointing us to any code you've done, etc.
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<burke> both ability and eagerness can be demonstrated by tackling one or more trivial tickets
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<burke> if you submit a stellar application (showing that you can write, you have thought about potential solutions, have a rough timeline, answer questions we ask for in an application -- on wiki), we still may not have the mentoring bandwidth to take on all apps...but if you have engaged the community and shown your eagerness through action, then chances are better
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<farhat> burke i have been coding for 15 years now,should i mention that
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<burke> yes. definitely.
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<burke> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Summer_Of_Code_2008_Application
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jCl> (at openmrs.org)
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<burke> state which project you're interested in, provide a rough plan and timeline for a solution, then make sure to answer the questions on the page I've just linked
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<farhat> how high level shall my application from a technical standpoint.Do u suggest my mentioning explicit class and functions names etc
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<burke> you don't have to go into great detail. just showing that you've thought about the problem and a potential solution is enough
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<burke> honestly, tacking one or two existing trivial tickets can say much more than the best worded application :)
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<burke> because it shows not only that you have the ability, but have demonstrated the willingness to put it into action
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<burke> if you would like me to review your application, email to burke at openmrs.org. I'd be happy to provide feedback if you wish
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<farhat> great.I looked up the trivial tickets,I think I can address this Ticket #498 (new enhancement)
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<burke> !ticket 498
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<OpenMRSBot> burke: Ticket #498: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/498
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<burke> oh hehe. glad I looked at that.
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<burke> we're actually in the midst of a large refactoring of our API. so #498 would be badly timed.
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<farhat> ok
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<burke> probably good idea (given that example) to pick a ticket and run it by us to make sure there aren't other issues
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<farhat> i can fix this defect > ticket 399,is it still open or closed
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<burke> !ticket 399
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<OpenMRSBot> burke: Ticket #399: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/399
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<burke> hmmm. depends if it is reproducible
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<farhat> i just sent u an email..did u get it
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<burke> hmm. unfortunately my work e-mail appears to be on the fritz
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<burke> farhat: i sent you an alternate e-mail in a pm
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<farhat> got it,email is on its way
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<burke> got it.
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<farhat> i am writing the porposal and will email it to you in the next few hours.
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<burke> farhat: sounds good. i will get some feedback to you asap. if not tonight, then in the morning (i'm on East Coast USA, UTC-4, btw)
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<farhat> i m in nj as well
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<burke> farhat: oh good. i may not get to it tonight, but will get to it asap tomorrow. i know the deadline is looming. :-)
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<farhat> great
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #399 (task closed): defined role cannot view patient dashboard without certain (seemingly unrelated) privileges <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/399#comment:3>
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<r0bby> :)
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