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| 01:17:27 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: News Blog: GSoC Application Deadline Extended to 7-April-2008 <http://blog.openmrs.org/?p=63> |
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| 01:37:39 | <sunbiz> !openmrs |
| 01:37:39 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3781]: xformsorbeon module: creating observations properly <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3781> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3780]: xformsorbeon module: xform model accessed properly, ready to build the ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3780> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3779]: xformsorbeon module: able to walk form and get all xpath queries needed to ⦠(32 more messages) |
| 01:37:55 | <sunbiz> !sunbiz |
| 01:37:55 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: "sunbiz" --- Just Another Developer |
| 01:39:02 | <sunbiz> !karma |
| 01:39:02 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: Highest karma: "docpaul" (2), "burke" (2), and "OpenMRSBot" (2). Lowest karma: "scriptlets" (-1), "bmckown" (0), and "r0bby" (1). |
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| 02:16:21 | <udai> !udai |
| 02:16:21 | <OpenMRSBot> udai: Error: "udai" is not a valid command. |
| 02:16:27 | <udai> !sunbiz |
| 02:16:27 | <OpenMRSBot> udai: "sunbiz" --- Just Another Developer |
| 02:34:39 | <udai> I have tried the SVN link for downloading the Rawandaregistration module code but its not working giving me 400 error ...pls help me |
| 02:49:13 | <r0bby> cute |
| 02:49:29 | <r0bby> EVERY project on SOC is preferring the WTF License lol |
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| 03:11:42 | <r0bby> http://www.javablogs.com/Jump.action?id=431979 |
| 03:11:46 | <r0bby> this is SOOO cute |
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| 04:06:40 | <sunbiz> :D robby what a find... I thought Sun was scared and left the battlefield |
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| 05:50:51 | <maveriick> hi evreybody |
| 05:51:03 | <maveriick> hi bwolfe |
| 05:51:15 | <bwolfe> hey maveriick |
| 05:56:58 | <maveriick> do you build openmrs in linux? |
| 05:57:13 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 05:57:45 | <maveriick> I am failing for an hour... |
| 06:03:12 | <maveriick> I started tomcat , do all the required DB settings ....its all fine.... |
| 06:05:13 | <maveriick> when i run ant install got an exception in the line 385 when the build file is going to deploy the app using tomcat manager |
| 06:05:59 | <bwolfe> whats the error maveriick ? |
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| 06:08:07 | <maveriick> IL - Encountered exception java.io.IOException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Context path is required |
| 06:08:12 | <maveriick> *FAIL |
| 06:08:25 | <maveriick> Letter I tried thourhg tomcat mamger web interface..... |
| 06:09:49 | <maveriick> but all in vein.... |
| 06:10:05 | <maveriick> The build system is bit different ..what I have practised so far... |
| 06:12:28 | <bwolfe> masonf: are you sure the code downloaded correctly? |
| 06:12:35 | <bwolfe> err, that was at maveriick |
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| 06:12:54 | <bwolfe> maveriick: which tomcat version? |
| 06:13:09 | <bwolfe> maveriick: have you tried downloading a precompiled war file to see if that deploys in tomcat? |
| 06:13:34 | <maveriick> And what I particulary think not effiicient is to hard code windows locations in properties.xml rather than something generic |
| 06:13:47 | <maveriick> tomcat 5.0.28 |
| 06:14:08 | <maveriick> I tried getting the latest version from svn...ok now trying the precompiled one |
| 06:19:01 | <maveriick> bwolfe: Bingo!!!! it worked ....by a readymade war |
| 06:19:20 | <maveriick> bwolfe: but to work upon I need to build by myself anyway :-( |
| 06:21:04 | <bwolfe> maveriick: you can override the properties.xml variables with runtime properties |
| 06:21:11 | <bwolfe> !refer maveriick [runtimeproperties] |
| 06:21:11 | * OpenMRSBot refers maveriick to "runtimeproperties" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Overriding_OpenMRS_Default_Properties |
| 06:21:30 | <bwolfe> maveriick: and you'll need tomcat 5.5... |
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| 06:56:11 | <eray> hi, is there anyone here about SoC mentoring :) |
| 06:56:25 | <bwolfe> elad: yep, several. what can we help you with? |
| 06:57:10 | <eray> bwolfe: do you want to say eray :) |
| 06:58:19 | <bwolfe> heh, yeah, sorry :-) |
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| 06:58:51 | <eray> bwolfe: ok :) |
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| 06:59:25 | <eray> I have prepared an application and burke has reviewed it and I think he likes it |
| 06:59:42 | <masonf> Since there is a whole week of registration left any comments on my app would be greatly appreciated. |
| 06:59:49 | <eray> my project title is Advanced Digital Image Viewing and Annotation |
| 07:00:13 | <eray> yes masonf is right :) |
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| 07:01:06 | <masonf> that makes two of us |
| 07:01:17 | <eray> bwolfe: do you have a chance to have look at my application |
| 07:01:31 | <eray> bwolfe: and give me a feedback |
| 07:01:59 | <bwolfe> eray: you want double the review? :-p |
| 07:02:12 | <bwolfe> eray: whats your full name? |
| 07:02:21 | <bwolfe> masonf: full name? |
| 07:02:42 | <masonf> Mason Fischer, Tribe>Patient Attribute |
| 07:02:59 | <eray> bwolfe: my full name is Eray Molla -> Advanced Digital Image Viewing and Annotation |
| 07:03:35 | <eray> bwolfe: if you email me your feedback I appreciate you |
| 07:03:56 | <bwolfe> eray: I'll post some comments to the application. that will allow you to have at least one edit |
| 07:04:12 | <eray> bwolfe: ok thanks |
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| 07:05:52 | <zrgiu> hello |
| 07:06:08 | <bwolfe> hey there zrgiu |
| 07:06:35 | <zrgiu> i'm here for the Summer of Code :D |
| 07:06:47 | <zrgiu> at least, for talking about it |
| 07:06:56 | <maveriick> bwolfe: Is there any test user account in the demo data? |
| 07:07:05 | <maveriick> bwolfe: trying to looking at the sql |
| 07:07:06 | <bwolfe> admin:test |
| 07:07:24 | <bwolfe> zrgiu: great. :-) let me know if you have any questions |
| 07:08:14 | <zrgiu> well, i took a look over the projects page |
| 07:08:25 | <maveriick> bwolfe, thanks |
| 07:08:44 | <zrgiu> and at the OpenMRS main page, and i have to say, it's a pretty interesting thing you got going here |
| 07:08:54 | <zrgiu> and i would like to participate in this project |
| 07:09:16 | <eray> bwolfe: I advice you to have a look at my links on the application, if you don't have enough time I can come later :):):) |
| 07:11:48 | <masonf> bwolfe: I am off to class. Hope you can find some time for my app this week! thanks. |
| 07:12:07 | <bwolfe> masonf and eray...you're both queued up :-) |
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| 07:12:40 | <zrgiu> bwolfe, please check your PM |
| 07:13:20 | <bwolfe> zrgiu: I didn't get one....you have to be authenticated to nickserv to send PMs |
| 07:13:29 | <bwolfe> !refer zrgiu [privatemessages] |
| 07:13:29 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "privatemessages" is not a valid command. |
| 07:13:31 | <bwolfe> !refer zrgiu [privatemessage] |
| 07:13:31 | * OpenMRSBot refers zrgiu to "privatemessage" --- In order to send private messages on Freenode you must register. Type /msg nickserv register to learn how |
| 07:13:55 | <zrgiu> thanks |
| 07:14:30 | <zrgiu> i typed that commant but nothing happened, so i guess i'll copy/paste everything back here :) |
| 07:14:44 | <zrgiu> as i was saying, i would like to participate in this project |
| 07:14:53 | <zrgiu> i have some experience building web applications, so i think i can help on that side |
| 07:15:03 | <zrgiu> i've worked with J2EE (ejb, jsp) and with J2SE |
| 07:15:13 | <zrgiu> and i'm an expert in PHP |
| 07:15:25 | <zrgiu> i've build applications on both languages, so there shouldn't be any problem there |
| 07:15:26 | <zrgiu> :) |
| 07:15:58 | <eray> bwolfe: thanks for your attention, I think you don't have enough time for now, I am quitting and I will try to come later :) |
| 07:17:19 | <zrgiu> so .. do you think i can be of service in your projects ? |
| 07:17:48 | <bwolfe> zrgiu: sounds like it |
| 07:17:56 | <bwolfe> we don't use any EJBs though |
| 07:18:04 | <bwolfe> we're all "second generation"....spring, hibernate, etc |
| 07:18:10 | <zrgiu> oh :) |
| 07:18:27 | <zrgiu> well, EJB3 is built on hibernate so .. |
| 07:18:35 | <zrgiu> REGISTER sergiu |
| 07:18:42 | <bwolfe> eray: ok. I think google will email you when you app is changed/commented on. if not, check the app later for my comment |
| 07:18:52 | <zrgiu> hmm .. that didn't work |
| 07:19:14 | <bwolfe> you have to send it as a command |
| 07:19:20 | <bwolfe> or as a private message to "nickserv" |
| 07:19:49 | <zrgiu> thanks |
| 07:20:15 | <eray> bwolfe: thanks, see you :) |
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| 07:22:11 | <bwolfe> $date |
| 07:22:14 | <bwolfe> $date u |
| 07:22:22 | <bwolfe> $ date u |
| 07:22:30 | <bwolfe> !date |
| 07:22:30 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "date" is not a valid command. |
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| 07:22:38 | <bwolfe> odd |
| 07:22:42 | <zrgiu> :) |
| 07:22:45 | <bwolfe> thought that would work :-/ |
| 07:22:58 | <maveriick> bwolfe, I have installed tomcat 5.5 |
| 07:23:07 | <maveriick> bwolfe: but still ant install won't work. |
| 07:23:14 | <bwolfe> zrgiu: the projects are sorted roughly top to bottom in order of "importance" |
| 07:23:22 | <zrgiu> great |
| 07:23:33 | <bwolfe> maveriick: same error when using "install" or "update" ? |
| 07:23:42 | <zrgiu> i hope i won't insult you but , |
| 07:23:54 | <zrgiu> i could give you a hand with ant and tomcat |
| 07:24:16 | <bwolfe> zrgiu: but we'll take students for any project...it really depends on the quality of the student. :-) I would suggest picking a project that interests you the most and diving into that |
| 07:24:32 | <zrgiu> :) i will do that |
| 07:24:40 | <maveriick> yup... |
| 07:24:55 | <bwolfe> good morning TorLye, are there any questions I can answer for you about gsoc ? |
| 07:25:13 | <maveriick> bwolfe, I think tomcat version is not the problem ...there is some other thing missing |
| 07:25:24 | <bwolfe> maveriick: yeah, seems like it |
| 07:25:24 | <maveriick> FAIL - Encountered exception java.io.IOException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Context path is required |
| 07:25:28 | <bwolfe> no errors when you checked out the code? |
| 07:25:37 | <maveriick> nope .... |
| 07:25:41 | <zrgiu> ok maveriick, as i don't know much about the project, i will ask the questions one at a time |
| 07:25:44 | <bwolfe> maveriick: which ant target are you using? |
| 07:25:54 | <maveriick> ant install |
| 07:26:14 | <zrgiu> is the build.properties file configured with the new path to tomcat ? |
| 07:26:15 | <maveriick> as instructed in the wiki..... its just try to deploy the war using the manager |
| 07:26:32 | <bwolfe> maveriick: what is the (uncommented) content of your /web/META-INF/context.xml file? |
| 07:26:40 | <maveriick> sure... I chaged in bashrc and properties.xml... |
| 07:26:59 | <maveriick> zrgiu, If it don't found the dir, it will complain differently |
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| 07:29:27 | <zrgiu> i'm guessing that the deployer doesn't use the proper context.xml file .. i see you have it in META-INF although it's usually located in WEB-INF |
| 07:30:07 | <zrgiu> also, from the context.xml |
| 07:30:15 | <zrgiu> if you have a "path" atribute |
| 07:30:39 | <zrgiu> you can remove it, as the path is derived from the name of the WAR file. |
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| 07:32:19 | <maveriick> bwolfe, Bingo!!!!! |
| 07:32:24 | <maveriick> What a fool I am....!!!! |
| 07:32:51 | <bwolfe> maveriick: ? |
| 07:33:08 | <maveriick> Installing tomcat 5.5 solves the problem.....basically I run startup.sh in another shell and didn't execute bashrc on that shell....so its using the old tomcat dir location... |
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| 07:34:15 | <maveriick> I sorce bashrc in the ant shell , but forgot to do it in the server shell |
| 07:34:20 | <maveriick> *source |
| 07:34:30 | <maveriick> filling heavenly....:-) |
| 07:34:33 | <bwolfe> ah, good to know :-) |
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| 07:40:50 | <bwolfe> welcome upul |
| 07:40:52 | <bwolfe> welcome back nribeka |
| 07:41:07 | <upul> Hi |
| 07:42:15 | <upul> I am deeply interested in the customized Eclipse environment bundle project |
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| 07:42:59 | <nribeka> hi bwolfe |
| 07:43:18 | <nribeka> the application is extended hehe ... |
| 07:43:30 | <nribeka> great news for everyone |
| 07:45:02 | <upul> it talks about two plugins mainly |
| 07:45:28 | <upul> one for creating a 'skelton' module code wizard, i presume |
| 07:46:00 | <upul> could you explain what 'provide a new Eclipse plugin to create new sample modules based on existing sample modules code.' |
| 07:46:26 | <upul> means, both plugin looks the same like creating a module code from a template |
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| 07:47:18 | * bwolfe goes to look at the description |
| 07:47:20 | <bwolfe> !projects |
| 07:47:20 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org |
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| 07:48:51 | <bwolfe> upul: the first "skeleton" is for the most basic of modules |
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| 07:49:17 | <upul> like the 'basicmodule' in the doc? |
| 07:49:38 | <bwolfe> one that pretty much just takes the "basic module" code and renames the package/moduleid according to how the user wants http://svn.openmrs.org/openmrs-modules/basicmodule |
| 07:49:41 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l1P> (at svn.openmrs.org) |
| 07:50:04 | <upul> right, that ones clear |
| 07:50:10 | <bwolfe> upul: the other one is for creating "starter" modules. one to help a user get a web type of module going, one to get a service tyep of module going, etc |
| 07:51:37 | <upul> was there any doc on different type modules somewhere |
| 07:52:04 | <upul> i saw the 'basicmodule' creation module document |
| 07:53:19 | <bwolfe> upul: no, we haven't defined the different type of modules yet |
| 07:53:56 | <napi> sooo whats the best april fools stuff people witnessed so far? |
| 07:54:22 | <upul> ah so it you it means those extended modules have some extra code relevent for some specific funstion I guess |
| 07:55:50 | <upul> napi: http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/04/microsoft-springsource-purchase |
| 07:55:53 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l1Y> (at www.infoq.com) |
| 07:57:29 | <bwolfe> upul: ahahaha, that would suck for us |
| 07:58:09 | <nribeka> brett favre is going to play another season in nfl -> this one is mean |
| 07:58:14 | <bwolfe> upul: yes, you are correct about the modules. the different types of modules have different files to include in certain places, etc |
| 08:00:29 | <upul> i have submitted an application (of a few :)) for this, actually I only got into gsoc thing last night ;) |
| 08:00:39 | <upul> never thought i was eligible |
| 08:00:51 | <upul> anyway I now there's some time |
| 08:01:33 | <upul> i built it from the source and got it going okay today |
| 08:02:31 | <upul> I don't really follow the steps in the guide exactly |
| 08:02:45 | <upul> but there was a problem at one place the properties file names.. |
| 08:03:20 | <upul> has capital simple names but in Linux it looks for all simple names |
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| 08:17:10 | <bwolfe> upul: for the runtime properties ? |
| 08:18:33 | <upul> yes those properties file, I got the names from the page, i'll check again |
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| 08:19:30 | <upul> yes it says OpenMRS-build.properties, OpenMRS-runtime.properties |
| 08:19:46 | <upul> but in it looks for all simple names |
| 08:20:15 | <upul> this happens only in linux i guess |
| 08:21:48 | <bwolfe> upul: which wiki page are you looking at? |
| 08:22:50 | <upul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Step-by-Step_Installation_for_Developers#Create_OpenMRS-runtime.properties |
| 08:22:59 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l2I> (at openmrs.org) |
| 08:23:36 | <upul> do most openmrs developers use Windows? |
| 08:24:03 | <bwolfe> upul: its about 50/50 |
| 08:26:13 | <upul> Is this eclipse bundle is going to be installed on top of a existing eclipse installation (like those MyEclipse setup) |
| 08:26:34 | <upul> or is it a complete bundle like (Eclipse EE bundle)? |
| 08:28:06 | <bwolfe> upul: I would think it could be either way |
| 08:28:24 | <bwolfe> upul: it would be a standalone that comes with the 4 openmrs eclipse plugins installed in it |
| 08:28:42 | <bwolfe> or you could install those 4 openmrs eclipse plugins into a different eclipse that someone installed previously |
| 08:28:49 | <bwolfe> but the first goal would be for that first one |
| 08:29:09 | <udai> bwolfe:hi |
| 08:29:44 | <bwolfe> hey udai |
| 08:30:12 | <upul> 4 plug-ins would be you are assuming, 1. basic skelton 2. extended modules code |
| 08:30:25 | <udai> bwolfe:I and studeid the rawanda module code |
| 08:30:36 | <udai> s/and/have |
| 08:30:37 | <upul> 3. descriptor editing helpers? |
| 08:34:01 | <bwolfe> upul: there are 4 "provide a new Eclipse plugin..." bullets in the project description |
| 08:34:10 | <bwolfe> udai: great! so you're all done then? ;-) |
| 08:35:03 | <upul> ah. got lost in the bullets :) |
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| 08:44:23 | <udai> bwolfe:yup but I want some suggestion from you |
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| 08:59:11 | <napi> udai which project you applying for? |
| 08:59:15 | <napi> development studio? |
| 08:59:40 | <udai> napi:registration module |
| 09:00:09 | <udai> napi:working on rawandaregistration module code |
| 09:00:21 | <napi> ah yeah just reading it now |
| 09:00:22 | <napi> cool |
| 09:01:07 | <udai> I have also studeid the databse .....mostly the patient information part |
| 09:01:55 | <bwolfe> I think my brain is going to kill me |
| 09:02:17 | <udai> bwolfe:you should take some rest :) |
| 09:02:20 | <bwolfe> its hard to read though a backlog of conversation with the nicks udai/napi/upal :-p |
| 09:02:51 | <napi> hehe |
| 09:03:00 | <udai> :) |
| 09:03:00 | <napi> want me to change mine to help? :p |
| 09:03:27 | <udai> I think that might help |
| 09:03:29 | <bwolfe> nah, you don't have to |
| 09:03:36 | <bwolfe> I need to get xchat coloring to work right |
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| 09:04:46 | <upul> or may be there's a new gsoc irc project idea |
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| 09:25:22 | <bwolfe> I hate april fools day |
| 09:25:37 | <bwolfe> I can't read any news site, blog posts, etc |
| 09:33:11 | <HongJun> Today, I have cheated two men, it's very interesting |
| 09:41:53 | <bwolfe> ? |
| 09:42:01 | <bwolfe> what'd you do HongJun ? |
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| 12:19:26 | <eray> bwolfe: thanks for your quick attention :) |
| 12:25:52 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #661 (enhancement created): Allow OpenMRS User to Change Log Level <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/661> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #660 (enhancement created): Alternate logging descriptor file for junit tests <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/660> |
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| 12:43:24 | <eray> bwolfe: are you there ? :) |
| 12:43:34 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 12:44:23 | <eray> bwolfe: ok, first of all thanks for your attention |
| 12:44:53 | <eray> bwolfe: can you give a specific question that is not in my proposal |
| 12:45:03 | <eray> so I can answer it in detail :) |
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| 12:47:47 | <eray> bwolfe: my computer rebooted itself :S if you write somthing that I did not see, can you paste it |
| 12:48:05 | <bwolfe> eray: nope, hadn't written yet. :-P |
| 12:48:12 | <bwolfe> eray: just some of the smaller ones. conflicts, contact, etc |
| 12:48:21 | <bwolfe> eray: experience with technologies |
| 12:48:34 | <eray> bwolfe: I hope you like it generally? |
| 12:48:49 | <bwolfe> just run through them all. if you already answered it in your longer paragraphs above, skip it |
| 12:48:54 | <eray> because you did not give any feedback about it :):):) |
| 12:48:56 | <bwolfe> yeah, its a good app |
| 12:49:46 | <bwolfe> eray: your feedback was "Well worded app". :-p |
| 12:50:45 | <eray> bwolfe: I have done last semester's HW's with JAVA and MySQL for my File Structures course, may I need to add a link ? |
| 12:51:08 | <eray> bwolfe: I hope well worded means it does not include anything it only includes word :p:p:p |
| 12:51:17 | <eray> *NOT means |
| 12:51:34 | <bwolfe> eray: you don't have to link to it, but we like to see code :-) |
| 12:53:16 | <eray> bwolfe: and as I have written to my application I have implemented a webservice for my last summer practice with Tomcat,AXIS, Java servlets, and much more technologies |
| 12:53:45 | <eray> bwolfe: I think it can be good to zip these things and put on the net :) |
| 12:54:03 | <eray> but I warn you I have written thousands of line :p |
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| 12:56:17 | <bwolfe> eray: thats fine...I'm sure not all mentors will look at it, but some will want to see it |
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| 12:57:57 | <eray> bwolfe: do you think should I need to get some feedback from other mentors or this app. is already an interesting one =) |
| 12:58:36 | <bwolfe> feedback from burke and myself should be plenty eray :-p |
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| 13:00:08 | <sunbiz> hi guys !! |
| 13:01:51 | <bwolfe> hey sun |
| 13:03:14 | <eray> bwolfe: thanks a lot bwolfe, burke said similar things but I want to do my best and I am open any kind of suggestion :) |
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| 13:04:16 | <sunbiz> hi ben!! |
| 13:04:42 | <sunbiz> howz it going guys ?!? |
| 13:04:51 | <bwolfe> good |
| 13:04:57 | <bwolfe> you seem overly hyper today... |
| 13:04:58 | <bwolfe> :-p |
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| 13:06:00 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: exams coming up... and lots to catchup |
| 13:06:15 | <eray> bwolfe: I need to go, I appreciate you, I hope we can work together for this summer. Have a good night(at least it is night in Turkey :)) |
| 13:06:39 | <bwolfe> ok, cya eray |
| 13:06:43 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: when are exams? |
| 13:06:45 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: finalizing all the stuff to present at the dissertation and some discussions on patents with other profs |
| 13:06:53 | <sunbiz> 3rd... its already 2nd here!! |
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| 13:09:29 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: so u guys having a hard time managing the apps ?? |
| 13:09:36 | <nribeka> hi all |
| 13:09:44 | <sunbiz> hi nribeka |
| 13:09:47 | <nribeka> in the middle of class here hehe ... |
| 13:10:09 | <nribeka> hi sunbiz |
| 13:10:15 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: nah, we just put off most of the work until after apps are done :-p |
| 13:10:37 | <nribeka> bwolfe: how many apps the total until today? |
| 13:10:38 | <sunbiz> nribeka: would have been gr8 if the exams allowed me a laptop to be connected to the channel |
| 13:10:56 | <sunbiz> I coukd answer with the help of all the jedis around ;) |
| 13:11:22 | <nribeka> sunbiz: yeah, in the mid of jsp/mvc class haha ... |
| 13:11:25 | <bwolfe> nribeka: the pace slowed....then we hit fifty and halted |
| 13:11:36 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: I heard at the gsoc channel how people had wasted apps, all duplicate apps...etc |
| 13:11:50 | <bwolfe> seems there was a rush at the last minute...and then it wasn't the last minute, so people starting procrastinating again :-p |
| 13:12:03 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: :) |
| 13:12:24 | <nribeka> bwolfe: haha true ... i put a blog saying about extension and my friend are now writing proposal ... |
| 13:12:28 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: we don't have any wasted apps really |
| 13:12:35 | <bwolfe> no flat out dupes either |
| 13:12:39 | <nribeka> i have a friend who wrote 4 apps :P |
| 13:12:54 | <bwolfe> you can do up to 20 I think |
| 13:13:43 | <nribeka> yeah, but one is enough for me. need to stay focus hehe :D |
| 13:15:03 | <nribeka> bwolfe: the java service wrapper is very OS spesific |
| 13:15:18 | <nribeka> they have their own impl for each os |
| 13:16:05 | <nribeka> so, if we go with jsw then we will have diff dist for each os :-P |
| 13:16:05 | <bwolfe> nribeka: figures |
| 13:16:16 | <nribeka> what do you think? |
| 13:18:17 | <nribeka> i'll look around to find other solutions hehe ... |
| 13:18:22 | <sunbiz> nribeka: have u thought of JMX solution?? |
| 13:18:41 | <nribeka> i don't think all container support JMX |
| 13:18:42 | <sunbiz> nribeka: would be a big / verbose one... but will be generic |
| 13:18:55 | <sunbiz> I guess most new ones do !! |
| 13:19:59 | <nribeka> haven't check tomcat. but i know jboss do :P |
| 13:20:27 | <sunbiz> all the big ones do |
| 13:20:49 | <sunbiz> Tomcat, JBoss, WebLogic and Glassfish |
| 13:21:41 | <nribeka> ah tomcat support it from tomcat 5 (based on google) |
| 13:22:38 | <sunbiz> yea |
| 13:23:21 | <sunbiz> JMX probably the most generic and extensible solution to manage the containers |
| 13:23:27 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: what say ?? |
| 13:23:31 | <Keelhaul> openmrs crashed my firefox twice last night |
| 13:23:37 | <Keelhaul> while the patient search page was open |
| 13:23:51 | <nribeka> i'm not familiar with jmx. probably i need to look at it. |
| 13:23:57 | <sunbiz> nribeka: I've been thinking about telling u to try JMX, but I always seem to forget |
| 13:24:26 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: what do I say about what? |
| 13:24:31 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: firefox 2? |
| 13:24:36 | <Keelhaul> yea |
| 13:24:50 | <Keelhaul> 2.0.0.13 |
| 13:24:52 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: about JMX as a solution for auto-updates |
| 13:24:54 | <Keelhaul> only a few days old |
| 13:25:01 | <nribeka> sunbiz: haha ... i need to learn tons of thing |
| 13:25:04 | <Keelhaul> win32 |
| 13:25:12 | <sunbiz> Keelhaul: doesn't the search page use AJAX ?? |
| 13:25:22 | <Keelhaul> i think so |
| 13:26:02 | <sunbiz> yea... I've had the Firefox 3 pre-beta 5 crash on me on few implementation of mookit |
| 13:26:19 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I've never had FF crash because of our js |
| 13:26:31 | <bwolfe> are you doing something to it via your module, or is it the core stuff? |
| 13:26:32 | <nribeka> keelhaul: another win32 user ... :-) |
| 13:26:47 | <Keelhaul> nribeka: worse, i'm actually running vista x64 |
| 13:26:50 | <Keelhaul> =) |
| 13:26:58 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: I don't have feelings either way about the solution :-p (jmx vs option a vs options b) |
| 13:27:08 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: I just want the "best" solution to be implemented |
| 13:27:21 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 13:27:22 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i just let the page open and it crashed w/o any input at some point |
| 13:27:35 | <bwolfe> odd |
| 13:27:48 | <bwolfe> can we blame it on other tabs you had open? :-) |
| 13:28:44 | <Keelhaul> prolly not |
| 13:28:46 | <sunbiz> bwolfe: :) |
| 13:29:00 | <nribeka> bwolfe: :-) |
| 13:29:10 | <Keelhaul> the other two tabs were java code from your svn |
| 13:29:25 | <bwolfe> crap, so its either our fault or our fault? :-/ |
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| 13:29:43 | <Keelhaul> or the new firefox' |
| 13:29:44 | <Keelhaul> who knows |
| 13:29:47 | <sunbiz> nribeka: I've tried JMX on a few webapps... especially when you have deployed the app at geographically separated intranets |
| 13:29:53 | <sunbiz> and it seems to do pretty well |
| 13:30:34 | <sunbiz> nribeka: just a little verbose and overkill if you don't want an extensible solution |
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| 13:32:42 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i just added a few tabs to the patient dashboard |
| 13:32:53 | <Keelhaul> but no tabs were displayed |
| 13:32:56 | <Keelhaul> when it crashed |
| 13:32:59 | <Keelhaul> just the search |
| 13:33:05 | <Keelhaul> btw |
| 13:33:25 | <Keelhaul> i seem to be able to overwrite tabs, but not when the new tab is focused, then the old one appears as well |
| 13:33:30 | <nribeka> sunbiz: how do they will do the start and stop stuff? |
| 13:33:49 | <nribeka> sunbiz: do you have any good reference on jmx? |
| 13:34:05 | <sunbiz> nribeka: yes... lemme find the pdf |
| 13:35:01 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: how are you overriding the tabs? |
| 13:35:10 | <bwolfe> you should be able to override the portlet that represents each |
| 13:35:21 | <bwolfe> using your module's applicationContext |
| 13:35:24 | <Keelhaul> adding extensions with the same tab id, and linking to my own portlets |
| 13:35:31 | <sunbiz> nribeka: I used the tech articles from Sun |
| 13:35:43 | <Keelhaul> oh hm |
| 13:35:46 | <Keelhaul> applicationcontext |
| 13:35:50 | <Keelhaul> most modules dont have that one |
| 13:35:51 | <sunbiz> but then I downloaded a better pdf explaining all the stuff more precisely |
| 13:35:54 | <Keelhaul> i deleted it i think =/ |
| 13:36:36 | <sunbiz> nribeka: this one's good to start...with the links at the end: http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/jmx.html |
| 13:36:37 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l8n> (at java.sun.com) |
| 13:36:42 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: its required if you have your own service |
| 13:37:14 | <nribeka> sunbiz: where can i find the pdf file? |
| 13:37:55 | <sunbiz> wait... lemme tell you the name of the ebook... I downloaded it off ed2k :p |
| 13:37:55 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: ah nm, of course i have it |
| 13:38:09 | <Keelhaul> i was thinking about the file that's in that subdir structure of the metadata dir |
| 13:38:12 | <nribeka> sunbiz: haha ... :) |
| 13:38:14 | <Keelhaul> that comes with basicmodule |
| 13:38:46 | <sunbiz> nribeka: the one I linked earlier from Sun is JMX 1.2 |
| 13:38:55 | <sunbiz> now we have JMX 2 which is simpler |
| 13:40:19 | <r0bby> this is dumb |
| 13:40:24 | <nribeka> sunbiz: simpler is better haha ... |
| 13:40:35 | <r0bby> the post office lost my amazon shipment |
| 13:41:07 | <nribeka> robby: for your books and screen? |
| 13:42:06 | <sunbiz> nribeka: This uses netBeans... but try it out... I did this one to create the final deploy==> http://www.netbeans.org/kb/articles/jmx-getstart.html |
| 13:42:12 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l8v> (at www.netbeans.org) |
| 13:42:52 | <sunbiz> I am generally from the netBeans camp... and I know everyone here is eclipse... |
| 13:43:43 | <sunbiz> but I have used eclipse a few times... and I believe "the IDE is only as good as the developer" (TM) :) |
| 13:43:56 | <nribeka> sunbiz: robby is intelliJ :P |
| 13:44:53 | <sunbiz> nribeka: r0bby is different... not based on this one though!! what say robby ?? |
| 13:46:13 | <sunbiz> nribeka: this is a good start if you have no prior MBean idea: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/jmx/index.html |
| 13:46:14 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l92> (at java.sun.com) |
| 13:48:53 | <nribeka> sunbiz: gr8. thanks. |
| 13:51:32 | <sunbiz> nribeka: if u r the book type... then I would recommened "Advanced Java - How To Program" from Deitel for everything Java |
| 13:51:54 | <sunbiz> I generally recommend that to all my students... covers a whole array of topics |
| 13:52:36 | <sunbiz> Chap 24 is JMX |
| 13:53:11 | <nribeka> sunbiz: you are not student? are you a faculty? |
| 13:53:54 | <nribeka> i use deitel too. use it to learn xml and java hehe ... |
| 13:53:57 | <sunbiz> yea... Im going to graduate in July... so I am student |
| 13:54:26 | <sunbiz> but Im a faculty as well at Univ of Mumbai for CS and Elec students |
| 13:54:38 | <sunbiz> I teach microprocessors to students |
| 13:54:46 | <sunbiz> and teach Java to Engg students |
| 13:55:26 | <nribeka> ah ic. :-) |
| 13:56:11 | <nribeka> are you in india right now? |
| 13:56:19 | <sunbiz> yes |
| 13:56:55 | <sunbiz> its 1:26... and I gotta get back to studying... (wherz the mail-biting emoticon) |
| 13:57:17 | <sunbiz> *nail |
| 13:57:21 | <sunbiz> cya guys!! |
| 13:57:30 | <nribeka> sunbiz: ok. thanks sunbiz |
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| 13:58:23 | <nribeka> see you around sunbiz and best of luck to you. |
| 14:01:38 | <r0bby> books |
| 14:01:46 | <r0bby> Free shipping |
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| 14:56:27 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #662 (defect created): HibernatePatientSetDAO method getPatientAttributes shouldn't return a voided attributes <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/662> |
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| 15:26:01 | * pearlbear waves |
| 15:26:16 | <pearlbear> hey, any more documentation comments? |
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| 15:39:10 | <jmiranda> hey pearlbear |
| 15:42:57 | * bwolfe waves back (delayed) |
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| 15:43:28 | <bwolfe> pearlbear: burke speaks for a lot of us :-) |
| 15:43:44 | <bwolfe> pearlbear: paul might be travelling right now...I know he was yesterday at least |
| 15:45:30 | <jmiranda> in regards to your latest email, i might be the first to say we should look for a different documentation platform |
| 15:45:45 | <jmiranda> but that might be more of a hassle at this point |
| 15:46:10 | <jmiranda> i like mediawiki for it's ease of use |
| 15:46:31 | <jmiranda> but it's not as extensible as drupal or other platforms |
| 15:47:00 | <jmiranda> however, we have a lot of documentation already |
| 15:47:17 | <jmiranda> and migrating that over to something else might be more of a pain than it's worth |
| 15:48:04 | <r0bby> Google April Fools Hoaxes ROCK. |
| 15:48:18 | <bwolfe> pearlbear: I would agree with jmiranda's sentiments |
| 15:48:26 | <jmiranda> but i like the idea of DITA |
| 15:48:27 | <jmiranda> http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2005/10/going_dita.html |
| 15:48:28 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l+E> (at www.oreillynet.com) |
| 15:48:29 | <bwolfe> pearlbear: more than anything we need an overall structure |
| 15:48:44 | <r0bby> Mediawiki is nice. |
| 15:50:32 | <jmiranda> yeah, to further ben's statement, i think we need a structured hierarchy of "buckets" (pages/sections) which need to be filled in with developer/user content |
| 15:50:50 | <jmiranda> i think we're missing a lot of useful content because we just don't see what's missing |
| 15:51:35 | <jmiranda> or in some cases the content is there, but it's "missing" because people don't know where to look for it |
| 15:56:46 | <r0bby> http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/1818 |
| 15:56:49 | <r0bby> this makes NO sense. |
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| 16:51:40 | <r0bby> just got rick rolled :| |
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| 17:55:54 | <Keelhaul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_API_Service_Template |
| 17:55:55 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l:8> (at openmrs.org) |
| 17:56:10 | <Keelhaul> is that doable in trunk already? |
| 17:56:18 | <Keelhaul> or only api refactoring |
| 18:03:42 | <r0bby> ... |
| 18:05:21 | <Keelhaul> wat |
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| 19:28:43 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: not you |
| 19:28:52 | <r0bby> I'm fighting to get dual monitors working |
| 19:29:43 | <Keelhaul> aww |
| 19:29:55 | <Keelhaul> piece of cake with windows drivers =P |
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| 20:14:42 | <pearlbear> thanks bwolfe and jmiranda |
| 20:15:09 | <pearlbear> I agree, it is likely that porting from MediaWiki is going to be a pain, so it has to really be worth it, if we're going to do it. |
| 20:15:55 | <pearlbear> DITA is going to take a lot of commitment, I think... |
| 20:16:19 | <pearlbear> but I mosdef hear you about the lack of buckets and structure |
| 20:17:01 | <[OmegentooX]> pearlbear, hey, I noticed you're in MA too |
| 20:17:18 | <pearlbear> I am indeed. In the boonies part. :-) |
| 20:17:28 | <[OmegentooX]> Which boonies? |
| 20:17:51 | <pearlbear> Shelburne Falls |
| 20:18:53 | <[OmegentooX]> Ah, cool. I'm in Amherst |
| 20:19:01 | <pearlbear> Oh, wow! |
| 20:19:07 | <pearlbear> we should have coffee or something |
| 20:19:33 | <pearlbear> I'm in Amherst pretty regularly, since I lived there for many years. Lots of my friends are tere |
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| 20:19:36 | <[OmegentooX]> Totally. Who are you? =) |
| 20:19:38 | <pearlbear> there, even |
| 20:19:42 | <pearlbear> :-) |
| 20:19:46 | <pearlbear> Michelle Murrain |
| 20:20:04 | <pearlbear> http://www.zenofnptech.org among other places to find me |
| 20:20:34 | <[OmegentooX]> Oh cool, you're the one that was talking about documention on the dev list |
| 20:20:38 | <[OmegentooX]> I <3 documentation |
| 20:20:52 | <pearlbear> righto, I'm the documentation czarina. ;-) |
| 20:21:24 | <[OmegentooX]> I'd love if that could be a summer of code project for me...documentation madness |
| 20:21:48 | <pearlbear> wow, really? That would be cool. |
| 20:22:01 | <pearlbear> I'm glad you love it. I love it too. |
| 20:23:15 | <[OmegentooX]> Although, Google says it's supposed to be summer of CODE, not documentation =/ |
| 20:24:41 | <[OmegentooX]> http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:MHarrison <-- me |
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| 20:41:46 | <jmiranda> pearlbear: you still around? |
| 20:41:54 | <pearlbear> yup |
| 20:42:10 | <jmiranda> i was in awe reading the 'mosdef' line |
| 20:42:12 | <jmiranda> amazing |
| 20:42:36 | <pearlbear> in awe? |
| 20:42:46 | <jmiranda> i guess that's taking it too far |
| 20:43:59 | <pearlbear> was it the abbreviation, or you are happy that I'll help create buckets and structure? |
| 20:44:01 | <pearlbear> :-) |
| 20:44:25 | <jmiranda> the use of the word |
| 20:44:40 | <jmiranda> you're either a fan of blackstar or the wire |
| 20:44:49 | <pearlbear> actually, neither. |
| 20:45:02 | <pearlbear> I forgot where I first saw the word used |
| 20:45:06 | <pearlbear> but I just loved it. |
| 20:45:11 | <pearlbear> it's perfect |
| 20:45:31 | <jmiranda> yeah mosdef is one of the mc's from blackstar, along with talib kwali |
| 20:46:25 | <jmiranda> i feel foolish now :) |
| 20:47:18 | <pearlbear> no worries. :-) |
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| 20:53:33 | <[OmegentooX]> jmiranda, heya |
| 20:54:06 | <jmiranda> hey [OmegentooX]: how are you? |
| 20:54:15 | <[OmegentooX]> Alright, you? |
| 20:54:30 | <jmiranda> very good |
| 20:55:04 | <[OmegentooX]> That's the way to be |
| 20:56:00 | <jmiranda> are you applying this year? |
| 20:56:14 | <jmiranda> i don't think i saw your name on any of the apps |
| 20:56:32 | <[OmegentooX]> I am. Haven't sent in the app yet though (gotta love extensions) |
| 20:57:06 | <[OmegentooX]> I'd like to apply for the same project, but I'm not sure if it's still a viable SoC project at this point |
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| 21:20:38 | <jmiranda> sorry [OmegentooX] |
| 21:20:42 | <jmiranda> got sidetracked |
| 21:22:20 | <[OmegentooX]> That's the story of my life |
| 21:22:39 | <jmiranda> what would you like to accomplish with that project? |
| 21:24:13 | <[OmegentooX]> Ideally, still a complete InfoPath replacement. But now that I see some work is being done with Orbeon and other such things, I'd like to specifically focus on the XForms Designer project - a combination of OOo (which is still just fine and dandy for designing forms) and scripts (python, or Java if it must be) to format OOo's files |
| 21:26:21 | <jmiranda> yeah, there was an xforms project that is underway as part of the OIP initiative |
| 21:26:42 | <[OmegentooX]> I've looked at what Jim Manico is doing, but I'm not entirely clear what the current status is |
| 21:27:08 | <jmiranda> in addition to what jim manico has been working |
| 21:27:10 | <jmiranda> on |
| 21:27:20 | <[OmegentooX]> Alternately, if pearlbear wants to make a SoC project dealing with documentation, I'd be game =0 |
| 21:27:36 | <[OmegentooX]> What else is going on in the XForms world then? |
| 21:28:35 | <jmiranda> i've been reading the dev list emails, but that's as much as i know about the xforms project |
| 21:29:09 | <[OmegentooX]> Ah |
| 21:29:17 | <jmiranda> are you still on that? |
| 21:29:23 | <[OmegentooX]> The dev list? Yeah |
| 21:31:29 | <jmiranda> email the dev list ... tell jim you're interested in helping out and asking if there's a sizable chunk that he needs help with that might constitute a GSoC project |
| 21:32:14 | <[OmegentooX]> Yeah I was thinking I should get in touch with him |
| 21:33:00 | <[OmegentooX]> I wasn't even going to apply since I felt bad that I unintentionally disappeared as soon as the semester started last year...but Paul and Brian encouraged me too |
| 21:33:02 | <[OmegentooX]> -o |
| 21:41:18 | <jmiranda> definitely apply |
| 21:41:30 | <jmiranda> [OmegentooX]: just do it soon!! |
| 21:42:14 | <[OmegentooX]> Yeah |
| 21:42:33 | <jmiranda> but definitely write to the dev list and see if there's anything that needs doing, with xforms or otherwise |
| 21:42:54 | <jmiranda> and write up a good proposal for the work to be done |
| 21:44:41 | <[OmegentooX]> Will do |
| 21:45:47 | <jmiranda> and if the xforms project doesn't need help this summer, try to find another project (maybe one not on the projects page) and write a kick-a#$ proposal for that |
| 21:46:10 | <[OmegentooX]> I really wish there was a Summer of Documentation so I could help out pearlbear =) |
| 21:46:18 | <jmiranda> yeah, that's interesting |
| 21:46:30 | <jmiranda> definitely bring that up with her and paul |
| 21:46:59 | <[OmegentooX]> It's especially advantageous that she's 30 mins away from me and there's a killer coffee shop here |
| 21:47:29 | <jmiranda> i think ben said that paul is traveling and it looks like pearlbear is away right now, but get in touch with them tomorrow |
| 21:47:32 | <jmiranda> :) |
| 21:47:46 | <jmiranda> and i've heard there's a great sandwich shop in amherst too |
| 21:48:42 | <[OmegentooX]> Black Sheep maybe? |
| 21:53:34 | <jmiranda> nah, Black Star |
| 21:53:51 | <jmiranda> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Star_(hip_hop_group) |
| 21:53:53 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1lCl> (at en.wikipedia.org) |
| 21:54:25 | <[OmegentooX]> lol |
| 21:54:55 | <jmiranda> don't know how to say this without sounding lame, but i'll say it anyway ... mosdef is a lyrical genius :) |
| 21:55:17 | <[OmegentooX]> And a swell actor to boot |
| 21:55:31 | <jmiranda> mosdef |
| 21:56:10 | <jmiranda> i still haven't seen hitchhiker's guide ... |
| 21:56:17 | <[OmegentooX]> "His [mosdef's] most notable acting role before his music career was that of Bill Cosby's sidekick on the short-lived detective show, The Cosby Mysteries" omg. Wikipedia needs links to video |
| 21:56:22 | <[OmegentooX]> heh, you should |
| 21:56:47 | <[OmegentooX]> The first time I saw it it was being streamed through SecondLife in a virtual theater =) |
| 21:58:36 | <jmiranda> :) |
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| 22:57:42 | <[OmegentooX]> "OOXML won ISO standard status." (puke) |
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