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<udai> I have tried the SVN link for downloading the Rawandaregistration module code but its not working giving me 400 error ...pls help me
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<r0bby> cute
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<maveriick> hi evreybody
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<maveriick> hi bwolfe
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<bwolfe> hey maveriick
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<maveriick> do you build openmrs in linux?
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<bwolfe> yeah
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<maveriick> I am failing for an hour...
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<maveriick> I started tomcat , do all the required DB settings ....its all fine....
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<maveriick> when i run ant install got an exception in the line 385 when the build file is going to deploy the app using tomcat manager
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<maveriick> IL - Encountered exception java.io.IOException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Context path is required
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<maveriick> *FAIL
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<maveriick> Letter I tried thourhg tomcat mamger web interface.....
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<maveriick> The build system is bit different ..what I have practised so far...
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<maveriick> And what I particulary think not effiicient is to hard code windows locations in properties.xml rather than something generic
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<maveriick> I tried getting the latest version from svn...ok now trying the precompiled one
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<maveriick> bwolfe: Bingo!!!! it worked ....by a readymade war
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<maveriick> bwolfe: but to work upon I need to build by myself anyway :-(
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<bwolfe> maveriick: you can override the properties.xml variables with runtime properties
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<eray> hi, is there anyone here about SoC mentoring :)
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<bwolfe> elad: yep, several. what can we help you with?
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<eray> bwolfe: do you want to say eray :)
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<eray> bwolfe: ok :)
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<eray> I have prepared an application and burke has reviewed it and I think he likes it
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<masonf> Since there is a whole week of registration left any comments on my app would be greatly appreciated.
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<eray> my project title is Advanced Digital Image Viewing and Annotation
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<masonf> that makes two of us
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<eray> bwolfe: do you have a chance to have look at my application
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<eray> bwolfe: and give me a feedback
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<bwolfe> eray: you want double the review? :-p
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<bwolfe> eray: whats your full name?
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<bwolfe> masonf: full name?
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<masonf> Mason Fischer, Tribe>Patient Attribute
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<eray> bwolfe: my full name is Eray Molla -> Advanced Digital Image Viewing and Annotation
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<eray> bwolfe: if you email me your feedback I appreciate you
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<bwolfe> eray: I'll post some comments to the application. that will allow you to have at least one edit
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<eray> bwolfe: ok thanks
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<zrgiu> hello
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<zrgiu> i'm here for the Summer of Code :D
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<zrgiu> at least, for talking about it
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<maveriick> bwolfe: Is there any test user account in the demo data?
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<maveriick> bwolfe: trying to looking at the sql
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<bwolfe> admin:test
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<bwolfe> zrgiu: great. :-) let me know if you have any questions
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<zrgiu> well, i took a look over the projects page
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<maveriick> bwolfe, thanks
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<zrgiu> and at the OpenMRS main page, and i have to say, it's a pretty interesting thing you got going here
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<zrgiu> and i would like to participate in this project
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<eray> bwolfe: I advice you to have a look at my links on the application, if you don't have enough time I can come later :):):)
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<masonf> bwolfe: I am off to class. Hope you can find some time for my app this week! thanks.
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<zrgiu> bwolfe, please check your PM
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<zrgiu> thanks
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<zrgiu> i typed that commant but nothing happened, so i guess i'll copy/paste everything back here :)
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<zrgiu> as i was saying, i would like to participate in this project
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<zrgiu> i have some experience building web applications, so i think i can help on that side
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<zrgiu> i've worked with J2EE (ejb, jsp) and with J2SE
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<zrgiu> and i'm an expert in PHP
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<zrgiu> i've build applications on both languages, so there shouldn't be any problem there
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<zrgiu> :)
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<eray> bwolfe: thanks for your attention, I think you don't have enough time for now, I am quitting and I will try to come later :)
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<zrgiu> so .. do you think i can be of service in your projects ?
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<bwolfe> zrgiu: sounds like it
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<bwolfe> we don't use any EJBs though
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<bwolfe> we're all "second generation"....spring, hibernate, etc
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<zrgiu> oh :)
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<zrgiu> well, EJB3 is built on hibernate so ..
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<zrgiu> REGISTER sergiu
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<bwolfe> eray: ok. I think google will email you when you app is changed/commented on. if not, check the app later for my comment
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<zrgiu> hmm .. that didn't work
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<zrgiu> thanks
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<eray> bwolfe: thanks, see you :)
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<bwolfe> odd
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<zrgiu> :)
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<bwolfe> thought that would work :-/
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<maveriick> bwolfe, I have installed tomcat 5.5
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<maveriick> bwolfe: but still ant install won't work.
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<bwolfe> zrgiu: the projects are sorted roughly top to bottom in order of "importance"
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<zrgiu> great
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<bwolfe> maveriick: same error when using "install" or "update" ?
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<zrgiu> i hope i won't insult you but ,
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<zrgiu> i could give you a hand with ant and tomcat
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<bwolfe> zrgiu: but we'll take students for any project...it really depends on the quality of the student. :-) I would suggest picking a project that interests you the most and diving into that
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<zrgiu> :) i will do that
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<maveriick> yup...
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<bwolfe> good morning TorLye, are there any questions I can answer for you about gsoc ?
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<maveriick> bwolfe, I think tomcat version is not the problem ...there is some other thing missing
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<bwolfe> maveriick: yeah, seems like it
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<maveriick> FAIL - Encountered exception java.io.IOException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Context path is required
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<bwolfe> no errors when you checked out the code?
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<maveriick> nope ....
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<zrgiu> ok maveriick, as i don't know much about the project, i will ask the questions one at a time
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<bwolfe> maveriick: which ant target are you using?
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<maveriick> ant install
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<zrgiu> is the build.properties file configured with the new path to tomcat ?
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<maveriick> as instructed in the wiki..... its just try to deploy the war using the manager
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<bwolfe> maveriick: what is the (uncommented) content of your /web/META-INF/context.xml file?
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<maveriick> sure... I chaged in bashrc and properties.xml...
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<zrgiu> i'm guessing that the deployer doesn't use the proper context.xml file .. i see you have it in META-INF although it's usually located in WEB-INF
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<zrgiu> also, from the context.xml
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<zrgiu> if you have a "path" atribute
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<maveriick> bwolfe, Bingo!!!!!
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<maveriick> What a fool I am....!!!!
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<bwolfe> maveriick: ?
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<maveriick> Installing tomcat 5.5 solves the problem.....basically I run startup.sh in another shell and didn't execute bashrc on that shell....so its using the old tomcat dir location...
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<maveriick> I sorce bashrc in the ant shell , but forgot to do it in the server shell
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<maveriick> *source
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<maveriick> filling heavenly....:-)
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<bwolfe> ah, good to know :-)
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<bwolfe> welcome upul
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<bwolfe> welcome back nribeka
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<upul> Hi
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<upul> I am deeply interested in the customized Eclipse environment bundle project
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<nribeka> hi bwolfe
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<nribeka> the application is extended hehe ...
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<nribeka> great news for everyone
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<upul> it talks about two plugins mainly
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<upul> one for creating a 'skelton' module code wizard, i presume
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<upul> could you explain what 'provide a new Eclipse plugin to create new sample modules based on existing sample modules code.'
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<upul> means, both plugin looks the same like creating a module code from a template
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<bwolfe> upul: the first "skeleton" is for the most basic of modules
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<upul> like the 'basicmodule' in the doc?
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l1P> (at svn.openmrs.org)
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<upul> right, that ones clear
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<upul> was there any doc on different type modules somewhere
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<upul> i saw the 'basicmodule' creation module document
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<bwolfe> upul: no, we haven't defined the different type of modules yet
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<napi> sooo whats the best april fools stuff people witnessed so far?
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<upul> ah so it you it means those extended modules have some extra code relevent for some specific funstion I guess
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<upul> napi: http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/04/microsoft-springsource-purchase
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l1Y> (at www.infoq.com)
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<bwolfe> upul: ahahaha, that would suck for us
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<nribeka> brett favre is going to play another season in nfl -> this one is mean
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<bwolfe> upul: yes, you are correct about the modules. the different types of modules have different files to include in certain places, etc
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<upul> i have submitted an application (of a few :)) for this, actually I only got into gsoc thing last night ;)
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<upul> never thought i was eligible
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<upul> anyway I now there's some time
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<upul> i built it from the source and got it going okay today
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<upul> I don't really follow the steps in the guide exactly
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<upul> but there was a problem at one place the properties file names..
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<upul> has capital simple names but in Linux it looks for all simple names
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<bwolfe> upul: for the runtime properties ?
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<upul> yes those properties file, I got the names from the page, i'll check again
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<upul> yes it says OpenMRS-build.properties, OpenMRS-runtime.properties
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<upul> but in it looks for all simple names
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<upul> this happens only in linux i guess
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<upul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Step-by-Step_Installation_for_Developers#Create_OpenMRS-runtime.properties
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<upul> or is it a complete bundle like (Eclipse EE bundle)?
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<bwolfe> upul: I would think it could be either way
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<bwolfe> upul: it would be a standalone that comes with the 4 openmrs eclipse plugins installed in it
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<bwolfe> or you could install those 4 openmrs eclipse plugins into a different eclipse that someone installed previously
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<bwolfe> but the first goal would be for that first one
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<udai> bwolfe:hi
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<bwolfe> hey udai
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<upul> 4 plug-ins would be you are assuming, 1. basic skelton 2. extended modules code
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<udai> bwolfe:I and studeid the rawanda module code
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<udai> s/and/have
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<bwolfe> upul: there are 4 "provide a new Eclipse plugin..." bullets in the project description
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<bwolfe> udai: great! so you're all done then? ;-)
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<upul> ah. got lost in the bullets :)
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<udai> bwolfe:yup but I want some suggestion from you
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<udai> napi:registration module
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<udai> napi:working on rawandaregistration module code
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<napi> ah yeah just reading it now
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<napi> cool
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<udai> I have also studeid the databse .....mostly the patient information part
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<udai> bwolfe:you should take some rest :)
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<bwolfe> its hard to read though a backlog of conversation with the nicks udai/napi/upal :-p
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<napi> hehe
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<udai> :)
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<udai> I think that might help
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<eray> bwolfe: thanks for your quick attention :)
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<eray> bwolfe: are you there ? :)
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<bwolfe> yeah
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<eray> bwolfe: ok, first of all thanks for your attention
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<eray> bwolfe: can you give a specific question that is not in my proposal
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<eray> so I can answer it in detail :)
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<eray> bwolfe: my computer rebooted itself :S if you write somthing that I did not see, can you paste it
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<bwolfe> eray: nope, hadn't written yet. :-P
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<bwolfe> eray: just some of the smaller ones. conflicts, contact, etc
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<bwolfe> eray: experience with technologies
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<eray> bwolfe: I hope you like it generally?
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<bwolfe> just run through them all. if you already answered it in your longer paragraphs above, skip it
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<eray> because you did not give any feedback about it :):):)
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<bwolfe> yeah, its a good app
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<bwolfe> eray: your feedback was "Well worded app". :-p
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<eray> bwolfe: I have done last semester's HW's with JAVA and MySQL for my File Structures course, may I need to add a link ?
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<eray> bwolfe: I hope well worded means it does not include anything it only includes word :p:p:p
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<eray> *NOT means
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<bwolfe> eray: you don't have to link to it, but we like to see code :-)
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<eray> bwolfe: and as I have written to my application I have implemented a webservice for my last summer practice with Tomcat,AXIS, Java servlets, and much more technologies
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<eray> bwolfe: I think it can be good to zip these things and put on the net :)
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<eray> but I warn you I have written thousands of line :p
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<bwolfe> eray: thats fine...I'm sure not all mentors will look at it, but some will want to see it
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<eray> bwolfe: do you think should I need to get some feedback from other mentors or this app. is already an interesting one =)
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<bwolfe> feedback from burke and myself should be plenty eray :-p
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<sunbiz> hi guys !!
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<bwolfe> hey sun
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<eray> bwolfe: thanks a lot bwolfe, burke said similar things but I want to do my best and I am open any kind of suggestion :)
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<sunbiz> hi ben!!
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<sunbiz> howz it going guys ?!?
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<bwolfe> good
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<bwolfe> you seem overly hyper today...
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<bwolfe> :-p
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<sunbiz> bwolfe: exams coming up... and lots to catchup
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<eray> bwolfe: I need to go, I appreciate you, I hope we can work together for this summer. Have a good night(at least it is night in Turkey :))
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<bwolfe> ok, cya eray
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<bwolfe> sunbiz: when are exams?
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<sunbiz> bwolfe: finalizing all the stuff to present at the dissertation and some discussions on patents with other profs
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<sunbiz> 3rd... its already 2nd here!!
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<sunbiz> bwolfe: so u guys having a hard time managing the apps ??
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<nribeka> hi all
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<sunbiz> hi nribeka
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<nribeka> in the middle of class here hehe ...
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<nribeka> hi sunbiz
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<bwolfe> sunbiz: nah, we just put off most of the work until after apps are done :-p
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<nribeka> bwolfe: how many apps the total until today?
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<sunbiz> nribeka: would have been gr8 if the exams allowed me a laptop to be connected to the channel
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<sunbiz> I coukd answer with the help of all the jedis around ;)
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<nribeka> sunbiz: yeah, in the mid of jsp/mvc class haha ...
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<bwolfe> nribeka: the pace slowed....then we hit fifty and halted
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<sunbiz> bwolfe: I heard at the gsoc channel how people had wasted apps, all duplicate apps...etc
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<bwolfe> seems there was a rush at the last minute...and then it wasn't the last minute, so people starting procrastinating again :-p
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<sunbiz> bwolfe: :)
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<nribeka> bwolfe: haha true ... i put a blog saying about extension and my friend are now writing proposal ...
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<bwolfe> sunbiz: we don't have any wasted apps really
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<bwolfe> no flat out dupes either
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<nribeka> i have a friend who wrote 4 apps :P
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<bwolfe> you can do up to 20 I think
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<nribeka> yeah, but one is enough for me. need to stay focus hehe :D
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<nribeka> bwolfe: the java service wrapper is very OS spesific
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<nribeka> they have their own impl for each os
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<nribeka> so, if we go with jsw then we will have diff dist for each os :-P
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<bwolfe> nribeka: figures
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<nribeka> what do you think?
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<nribeka> i'll look around to find other solutions hehe ...
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<sunbiz> nribeka: have u thought of JMX solution??
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<nribeka> i don't think all container support JMX
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<sunbiz> nribeka: would be a big / verbose one... but will be generic
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<sunbiz> I guess most new ones do !!
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<nribeka> haven't check tomcat. but i know jboss do :P
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<sunbiz> all the big ones do
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<sunbiz> Tomcat, JBoss, WebLogic and Glassfish
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<nribeka> ah tomcat support it from tomcat 5 (based on google)
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<sunbiz> yea
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<sunbiz> JMX probably the most generic and extensible solution to manage the containers
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<sunbiz> bwolfe: what say ??
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<Keelhaul> openmrs crashed my firefox twice last night
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<Keelhaul> while the patient search page was open
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<nribeka> i'm not familiar with jmx. probably i need to look at it.
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<sunbiz> nribeka: I've been thinking about telling u to try JMX, but I always seem to forget
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<bwolfe> sunbiz: what do I say about what?
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: firefox 2?
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<Keelhaul> yea
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<Keelhaul> 2.0.0.13
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<sunbiz> bwolfe: about JMX as a solution for auto-updates
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<Keelhaul> only a few days old
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<nribeka> sunbiz: haha ... i need to learn tons of thing
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<Keelhaul> win32
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<sunbiz> Keelhaul: doesn't the search page use AJAX ??
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<Keelhaul> i think so
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<sunbiz> yea... I've had the Firefox 3 pre-beta 5 crash on me on few implementation of mookit
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: I've never had FF crash because of our js
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<bwolfe> are you doing something to it via your module, or is it the core stuff?
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<nribeka> keelhaul: another win32 user ... :-)
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<Keelhaul> nribeka: worse, i'm actually running vista x64
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<Keelhaul> =)
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<bwolfe> sunbiz: I don't have feelings either way about the solution :-p (jmx vs option a vs options b)
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<bwolfe> sunbiz: I just want the "best" solution to be implemented
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<bwolfe> heh
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: i just let the page open and it crashed w/o any input at some point
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<bwolfe> odd
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<bwolfe> can we blame it on other tabs you had open? :-)
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<Keelhaul> prolly not
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<sunbiz> bwolfe: :)
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<nribeka> bwolfe: :-)
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<Keelhaul> the other two tabs were java code from your svn
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<bwolfe> crap, so its either our fault or our fault? :-/
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<Keelhaul> or the new firefox'
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<Keelhaul> who knows
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<sunbiz> nribeka: I've tried JMX on a few webapps... especially when you have deployed the app at geographically separated intranets
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<sunbiz> and it seems to do pretty well
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<sunbiz> nribeka: just a little verbose and overkill if you don't want an extensible solution
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: i just added a few tabs to the patient dashboard
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<Keelhaul> but no tabs were displayed
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<Keelhaul> when it crashed
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<Keelhaul> just the search
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<Keelhaul> btw
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<Keelhaul> i seem to be able to overwrite tabs, but not when the new tab is focused, then the old one appears as well
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<nribeka> sunbiz: how do they will do the start and stop stuff?
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<nribeka> sunbiz: do you have any good reference on jmx?
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<sunbiz> nribeka: yes... lemme find the pdf
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: how are you overriding the tabs?
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<bwolfe> you should be able to override the portlet that represents each
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<bwolfe> using your module's applicationContext
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<Keelhaul> adding extensions with the same tab id, and linking to my own portlets
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<sunbiz> nribeka: I used the tech articles from Sun
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<Keelhaul> oh hm
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<Keelhaul> applicationcontext
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<Keelhaul> most modules dont have that one
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<sunbiz> but then I downloaded a better pdf explaining all the stuff more precisely
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<Keelhaul> i deleted it i think =/
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<sunbiz> nribeka: this one's good to start...with the links at the end: http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/jmx.html
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l8n> (at java.sun.com)
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: its required if you have your own service
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<nribeka> sunbiz: where can i find the pdf file?
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<sunbiz> wait... lemme tell you the name of the ebook... I downloaded it off ed2k :p
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: ah nm, of course i have it
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<Keelhaul> i was thinking about the file that's in that subdir structure of the metadata dir
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<nribeka> sunbiz: haha ... :)
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<Keelhaul> that comes with basicmodule
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<sunbiz> nribeka: the one I linked earlier from Sun is JMX 1.2
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<sunbiz> now we have JMX 2 which is simpler
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<r0bby> this is dumb
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<nribeka> sunbiz: simpler is better haha ...
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<r0bby> the post office lost my amazon shipment
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<nribeka> robby: for your books and screen?
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<sunbiz> nribeka: This uses netBeans... but try it out... I did this one to create the final deploy==> http://www.netbeans.org/kb/articles/jmx-getstart.html
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l8v> (at www.netbeans.org)
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<sunbiz> I am generally from the netBeans camp... and I know everyone here is eclipse...
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<sunbiz> but I have used eclipse a few times... and I believe "the IDE is only as good as the developer" (TM) :)
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<nribeka> sunbiz: robby is intelliJ :P
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<sunbiz> nribeka: r0bby is different... not based on this one though!! what say robby ??
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<sunbiz> nribeka: this is a good start if you have no prior MBean idea: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/jmx/index.html
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l92> (at java.sun.com)
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<nribeka> sunbiz: gr8. thanks.
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<sunbiz> nribeka: if u r the book type... then I would recommened "Advanced Java - How To Program" from Deitel for everything Java
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<sunbiz> I generally recommend that to all my students... covers a whole array of topics
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<sunbiz> Chap 24 is JMX
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<nribeka> sunbiz: you are not student? are you a faculty?
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<nribeka> i use deitel too. use it to learn xml and java hehe ...
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<sunbiz> yea... Im going to graduate in July... so I am student
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<sunbiz> but Im a faculty as well at Univ of Mumbai for CS and Elec students
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<sunbiz> I teach microprocessors to students
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<sunbiz> and teach Java to Engg students
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<nribeka> ah ic. :-)
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<nribeka> are you in india right now?
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<sunbiz> yes
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<sunbiz> its 1:26... and I gotta get back to studying... (wherz the mail-biting emoticon)
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<sunbiz> *nail
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<sunbiz> cya guys!!
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<nribeka> sunbiz: ok. thanks sunbiz
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<nribeka> see you around sunbiz and best of luck to you.
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<r0bby> books
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<r0bby> Free shipping
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<pearlbear> hey, any more documentation comments?
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<jmiranda> hey pearlbear
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<bwolfe> pearlbear: burke speaks for a lot of us :-)
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<bwolfe> pearlbear: paul might be travelling right now...I know he was yesterday at least
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<jmiranda> in regards to your latest email, i might be the first to say we should look for a different documentation platform
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<jmiranda> but that might be more of a hassle at this point
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<jmiranda> i like mediawiki for it's ease of use
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<jmiranda> but it's not as extensible as drupal or other platforms
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<jmiranda> however, we have a lot of documentation already
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<jmiranda> and migrating that over to something else might be more of a pain than it's worth
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<r0bby> Google April Fools Hoaxes ROCK.
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<bwolfe> pearlbear: I would agree with jmiranda's sentiments
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<jmiranda> but i like the idea of DITA
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<jmiranda> http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2005/10/going_dita.html
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1l+E> (at www.oreillynet.com)
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<bwolfe> pearlbear: more than anything we need an overall structure
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<r0bby> Mediawiki is nice.
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<jmiranda> yeah, to further ben's statement, i think we need a structured hierarchy of "buckets" (pages/sections) which need to be filled in with developer/user content
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<jmiranda> i think we're missing a lot of useful content because we just don't see what's missing
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<jmiranda> or in some cases the content is there, but it's "missing" because people don't know where to look for it
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<r0bby> http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/1818
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<r0bby> this makes NO sense.
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<Keelhaul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_API_Service_Template
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<Keelhaul> is that doable in trunk already?
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<Keelhaul> or only api refactoring
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<Keelhaul> wat
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<Keelhaul> piece of cake with windows drivers =P
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<pearlbear> thanks bwolfe and jmiranda
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<pearlbear> I agree, it is likely that porting from MediaWiki is going to be a pain, so it has to really be worth it, if we're going to do it.
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<pearlbear> DITA is going to take a lot of commitment, I think...
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<pearlbear> but I mosdef hear you about the lack of buckets and structure
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<[OmegentooX]> pearlbear, hey, I noticed you're in MA too
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<pearlbear> I am indeed. In the boonies part. :-)
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<[OmegentooX]> Which boonies?
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<pearlbear> Shelburne Falls
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<[OmegentooX]> Ah, cool. I'm in Amherst
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<pearlbear> Oh, wow!
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<pearlbear> we should have coffee or something
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<pearlbear> I'm in Amherst pretty regularly, since I lived there for many years. Lots of my friends are tere
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<[OmegentooX]> Totally. Who are you? =)
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<pearlbear> there, even
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<pearlbear> :-)
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<pearlbear> Michelle Murrain
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<pearlbear> http://www.zenofnptech.org among other places to find me
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<[OmegentooX]> Oh cool, you're the one that was talking about documention on the dev list
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<[OmegentooX]> I <3 documentation
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<pearlbear> righto, I'm the documentation czarina. ;-)
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<[OmegentooX]> I'd love if that could be a summer of code project for me...documentation madness
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<pearlbear> wow, really? That would be cool.
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<pearlbear> I'm glad you love it. I love it too.
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<[OmegentooX]> Although, Google says it's supposed to be summer of CODE, not documentation =/
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<[OmegentooX]> http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:MHarrison <-- me
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<jmiranda> pearlbear: you still around?
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<pearlbear> yup
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<jmiranda> i was in awe reading the 'mosdef' line
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<jmiranda> amazing
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<pearlbear> in awe?
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<jmiranda> i guess that's taking it too far
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<pearlbear> was it the abbreviation, or you are happy that I'll help create buckets and structure?
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<pearlbear> :-)
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<jmiranda> the use of the word
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<jmiranda> you're either a fan of blackstar or the wire
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<pearlbear> actually, neither.
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<pearlbear> I forgot where I first saw the word used
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<pearlbear> but I just loved it.
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<pearlbear> it's perfect
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<jmiranda> yeah mosdef is one of the mc's from blackstar, along with talib kwali
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<jmiranda> i feel foolish now :)
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<pearlbear> no worries. :-)
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<[OmegentooX]> jmiranda, heya
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<jmiranda> hey [OmegentooX]: how are you?
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<[OmegentooX]> Alright, you?
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<jmiranda> very good
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<[OmegentooX]> That's the way to be
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<jmiranda> are you applying this year?
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<jmiranda> i don't think i saw your name on any of the apps
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<[OmegentooX]> I am. Haven't sent in the app yet though (gotta love extensions)
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<[OmegentooX]> I'd like to apply for the same project, but I'm not sure if it's still a viable SoC project at this point
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<jmiranda> sorry [OmegentooX]
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<jmiranda> got sidetracked
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<[OmegentooX]> That's the story of my life
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<jmiranda> what would you like to accomplish with that project?
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<[OmegentooX]> Ideally, still a complete InfoPath replacement. But now that I see some work is being done with Orbeon and other such things, I'd like to specifically focus on the XForms Designer project - a combination of OOo (which is still just fine and dandy for designing forms) and scripts (python, or Java if it must be) to format OOo's files
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<jmiranda> yeah, there was an xforms project that is underway as part of the OIP initiative
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<[OmegentooX]> I've looked at what Jim Manico is doing, but I'm not entirely clear what the current status is
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<jmiranda> in addition to what jim manico has been working
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<jmiranda> on
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<[OmegentooX]> Alternately, if pearlbear wants to make a SoC project dealing with documentation, I'd be game =0
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<[OmegentooX]> What else is going on in the XForms world then?
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<jmiranda> i've been reading the dev list emails, but that's as much as i know about the xforms project
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<[OmegentooX]> Ah
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<jmiranda> are you still on that?
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<[OmegentooX]> The dev list? Yeah
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<jmiranda> email the dev list ... tell jim you're interested in helping out and asking if there's a sizable chunk that he needs help with that might constitute a GSoC project
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<[OmegentooX]> Yeah I was thinking I should get in touch with him
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<[OmegentooX]> I wasn't even going to apply since I felt bad that I unintentionally disappeared as soon as the semester started last year...but Paul and Brian encouraged me too
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<[OmegentooX]> -o
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<jmiranda> definitely apply
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<jmiranda> [OmegentooX]: just do it soon!!
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<[OmegentooX]> Yeah
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<jmiranda> but definitely write to the dev list and see if there's anything that needs doing, with xforms or otherwise
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<jmiranda> and write up a good proposal for the work to be done
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<[OmegentooX]> Will do
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<jmiranda> and if the xforms project doesn't need help this summer, try to find another project (maybe one not on the projects page) and write a kick-a#$ proposal for that
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<[OmegentooX]> I really wish there was a Summer of Documentation so I could help out pearlbear =)
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<jmiranda> yeah, that's interesting
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<jmiranda> definitely bring that up with her and paul
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<[OmegentooX]> It's especially advantageous that she's 30 mins away from me and there's a killer coffee shop here
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<jmiranda> i think ben said that paul is traveling and it looks like pearlbear is away right now, but get in touch with them tomorrow
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<jmiranda> :)
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<jmiranda> and i've heard there's a great sandwich shop in amherst too
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<[OmegentooX]> Black Sheep maybe?
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<jmiranda> nah, Black Star
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<jmiranda> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Star_(hip_hop_group)
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1lCl> (at en.wikipedia.org)
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<[OmegentooX]> lol
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<jmiranda> don't know how to say this without sounding lame, but i'll say it anyway ... mosdef is a lyrical genius :)
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<[OmegentooX]> And a swell actor to boot
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<jmiranda> mosdef
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<jmiranda> i still haven't seen hitchhiker's guide ...
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<[OmegentooX]> "His [mosdef's] most notable acting role before his music career was that of Bill Cosby's sidekick on the short-lived detective show, The Cosby Mysteries" omg. Wikipedia needs links to video
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<[OmegentooX]> heh, you should
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<[OmegentooX]> The first time I saw it it was being streamed through SecondLife in a virtual theater =)
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<[OmegentooX]> "OOXML won ISO standard status." (puke)
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