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| 02:10:23 | <r0bby> grails doesn't like me |
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| 02:42:12 | <r0bby> oh joy |
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| 02:52:57 | <sunbiz> hi guys !! |
| 02:53:11 | <sunbiz> anyone still awake ?? |
| 02:55:04 | <HongJun> I am awake |
| 02:55:12 | <HongJun> since here is daytime |
| 02:55:24 | <HongJun> :) |
| 02:55:43 | <HongJun> sunbiz: where a u |
| 02:57:26 | <sunbiz> Im fron India... |
| 02:57:31 | <r0bby> im going to bed |
| 02:57:45 | <sunbiz> yeah... I saw at the logs someone askign about jar |
| 02:57:52 | <sunbiz> so...I thought it'd be good to help |
| 02:58:21 | <sunbiz> in the manifest to make an executable...we need to add: Main-Class: <name of MainClass> |
| 02:58:26 | <r0bby> sunbiz: it's over |
| 02:58:27 | <r0bby> lol |
| 02:58:37 | <r0bby> he knows about Main-Class |
| 02:58:49 | <sunbiz> okk... I didnt see an update on the logs then!! :)) |
| 02:59:06 | <r0bby> he didnt mention it again so i assume he resolved it. |
| 02:59:16 | <r0bby> he wasn't sure if IDEA set the main class |
| 02:59:24 | <sunbiz> yeah... I guess show internet connections suck !! ;-D |
| 02:59:32 | <sunbiz> *slow |
| 03:00:03 | <r0bby> and i think grails hates me |
| 03:00:04 | <r0bby> :/ |
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| 03:01:03 | <sunbiz> robby: :-D ... u should be more optimistic... Its grails..Its Holy!! |
| 03:03:37 | <sunbiz> I guess everyones sleeping.. I'd better leave as well... cya then!! |
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| 05:25:28 | <Family> /msg OpenMRSBot !list |
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| 05:35:02 | <OpenMRSBot> Hey there Ben! |
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| 05:50:15 | <bwolfe> hello there seanfabs |
| 05:50:16 | <bwolfe> welcome |
| 05:50:49 | <seanfabs> hello, I was wondering about the google summer of code actually |
| 05:50:52 | <seanfabs> can anyone help? |
| 05:52:31 | <bwolfe> yep |
| 05:52:44 | <bwolfe> ask away |
| 05:52:53 | <napi> pff. seanfabs gets a hello, 2 minutes before when I joined I got nothing! |
| 05:52:57 | <napi> discrimination I tell you |
| 05:53:19 | <bwolfe> good morning napi |
| 05:53:23 | <seanfabs> ok, is there a specific time in the summer - I have exams till mid june |
| 05:53:31 | <napi> morning bwolfe :D |
| 05:53:42 | <bwolfe> napi: I like to greet all newcomers...you're no longer new :-p |
| 05:53:44 | <napi> seanfabs theres a pretty detailed timeline on the GSoC website |
| 05:53:59 | <napi> think the project "officially starts" on the 26th may |
| 05:54:10 | <seanfabs> of course, but I can't myself! |
| 05:54:21 | <napi> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline |
| 05:54:22 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1ez7> (at code.google.com) |
| 05:54:47 | <napi> lol bwolfe fair enough. :p |
| 05:55:02 | <bwolfe> !gsocfaq |
| 05:55:02 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "gsocfaq" --- The GSoC 2008 FAQs are quite complete: http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html |
| 05:55:38 | <bwolfe> !gsocfaq @ seanfabs |
| 05:55:38 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "gsocfaq" is not a valid command. |
| 05:55:59 | <bwolfe> bummer, that would be nice if it worked |
| 05:56:26 | <napi> !gsocfaq |
| 05:56:26 | <OpenMRSBot> napi: Error: "gsocfaq" is not a valid command. |
| 05:56:31 | <napi> hm |
| 05:56:32 | <bwolfe> seanfabs: can you start before the official starttime? |
| 05:56:58 | <seanfabs> no, it would have to be after - mid june time |
| 05:57:59 | <bwolfe> hmm, thats about 3 weeks late...can you work 3 weeks after the deadline? |
| 05:58:40 | <bwolfe> seanfabs: the problem is that the midterm would come only a few weeks after you start. it would be hard to judge how well you've done or how you will do by only a small amount |
| 05:59:09 | <seanfabs> Yep, I don't know how strict google are going to be with those dates though |
| 05:59:10 | <bwolfe> if there was a way for you to start early, saw after student selection and before the official starttime, then take some time off to study and take exams, that might work |
| 05:59:26 | <bwolfe> seanfabs: they are strict about the midterm evaluations...not so much about exactly when you code |
| 05:59:49 | <seanfabs> I am free now till the first week of April |
| 06:00:02 | <bwolfe> 5 days? |
| 06:00:05 | <seanfabs> I see what you mean |
| 06:01:00 | <seanfabs> no, say the 7th |
| 06:01:35 | <bwolfe> accepted students aren't accounced until April 14 |
| 06:02:06 | <seanfabs> ah well, it seems to not be possible |
| 06:02:07 | <napi> o'realy? Perfect timing if I get accepted- thats when I spend 2 weeks knocking my bioinformatics coursework out the park (java.. woo) |
| 06:02:23 | <napi> http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~nxk/TEACHING/G53BIO/Coursework2007-2008.htm - very cool project |
| 06:02:25 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jdX> (at www.cs.nott.ac.uk) |
| 06:03:11 | <bwolfe> seanfabs: :-/ |
| 06:03:23 | <bwolfe> seanfabs: where do you go to school? |
| 06:03:38 | <seanfabs> hmm, the only other way was if I got the odd weekend |
| 06:03:51 | <seanfabs> I am in the UK |
| 06:04:08 | <seanfabs> I got to a university in Brighton |
| 06:04:09 | <njero> bwolfe: do you know who wrote the login (and password hashing) code? |
| 06:04:48 | <bwolfe> njero: I did |
| 06:04:56 | <njero> aha, I thought so |
| 06:05:01 | <bwolfe> seanfabs: which one? |
| 06:05:06 | <bwolfe> njero: what'd I do? :-/ |
| 06:05:11 | <seanfabs> Univeristy of Sussex |
| 06:05:14 | <njero> I have been working on the Southern Summer of Code and stumbled on a bug |
| 06:05:23 | <njero> but it is a debateable bug |
| 06:05:28 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 06:06:44 | <njero> So the hash code is correctly creating the digest for the password+salt, but the hex encoding is problematic. Because each byte is encoded individually when the byte is < 16 it uses a single character to encode |
| 06:07:04 | <njero> In my test this created a password that was 5 bytes shorter than it should have been |
| 06:07:40 | <njero> Ultimately this means that the hashing algorithm is not a compatabile algorithm (e.g. with the SHA1 function built into Mysql or built into other languages) |
| 06:08:02 | <bwolfe> seanfabs: ah, ok. I had remember wrong. we have some graduate students working on projects that go to Univ of Bristol....I was remembering that as "brighton" |
| 06:08:35 | <seanfabs> ok, so what do you think? |
| 06:09:08 | <bwolfe> seanfabs: about? those students are not part of gsoc. they are doing work as part of graduate thesis's |
| 06:09:17 | <bwolfe> njero: and the proposed solution is... ? |
| 06:09:21 | <njero> bwolfe: In any event I modded our Ruby code at Baobab to support both methodologies |
| 06:10:20 | <njero> I am working on a patch... but 1) the code for encoding the hex needs to be changed and 2) the comparator for passwords/hashes needs to support both mechanisms for supporting legacy passwords |
| 06:10:56 | <njero> Or we need a migration that will update all of the passwords... but that is pretty tough to write because it is a one way hash... |
| 06:11:05 | <njero> Possible, but not worth it |
| 06:12:18 | <seanfabs> I just mean about the time - I guess I can come back another year |
| 06:12:42 | <seanfabs> Thanks a lot though, and good luck! |
| 06:12:51 | <bwolfe> seanfabs: will your exams be at a different time next year? |
| 06:12:58 | <napi> seanfabs, which year are you in at uni? |
| 06:13:00 | <napi> 1st or 2nd? |
| 06:13:04 | <seanfabs> 2nd |
| 06:13:09 | <napi> next year will be good for you then |
| 06:13:16 | <napi> I'm 3rd year at nottingham - my exams finish 20th may |
| 06:13:21 | <napi> 3rd years always finish much earlier |
| 06:13:39 | <seanfabs> thats true - I would be able to fit it in |
| 06:13:47 | <seanfabs> ok, thanks |
| 06:14:02 | <napi> get a head start for next year and get involved in some open source stuff over summer though :p |
| 06:14:11 | <napi> (obviously, get involved with openmrs :P) |
| 06:14:24 | <bwolfe> njero: hmm, yes, that would be the only solution. I see no problem with doing it that way. there is a good chance some passwords will /never/ be changed to the new |
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| 06:14:48 | <bwolfe> njero: /unless/ you mark every user as "must create a new password" :-) |
| 06:15:14 | <bwolfe> napi: guess he didn't like that idea :-/ |
| 06:15:28 | <napi> apparently not |
| 06:15:32 | <napi> gold digger ^^ |
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| 06:21:21 | <njero> sorry bwolfe, power dropped |
| 06:21:53 | <bwolfe> njero: get my replies? |
| 06:22:11 | <njero> yeah... bwolfe, I agree.... I think that as it stands the hashed passwords are maybe slightly more vulnerable as they stand |
| 06:22:43 | <njero> I said as they stand twice |
| 06:22:45 | <njero> :) |
| 06:23:00 | <bwolfe> njero: don't worry, you had me at "incorrect" before :-p |
| 06:23:06 | <njero> lol |
| 06:23:29 | <njero> I will try to have a patch for it in the next day |
| 06:23:43 | <bwolfe> ...and I'm definitely all for it if you're going to write up a patch for it :-) |
| 06:23:45 | <njero> like I said this is part of me trying to merge in my stuff that is ruby for my OIP |
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| 07:20:48 | <maveriick> hi evreybody |
| 07:21:05 | <bwolfe> hey maveriick |
| 07:23:00 | <maveriick> I have interest in patient portrait , digtial image improting, digital image annotation project .... |
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| 07:23:44 | <maveriick> Interest comes from the fact that ..I use spring for a while and have worked in the field of image processing in academic field |
| 07:24:34 | <maveriick> The other day I came here to talk about it ....but ppl from openMrs proabably idling in that time ....my timezone is not much synchronized ... |
| 07:24:57 | <bwolfe> maveriick: where is that? |
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| 07:31:26 | <docpaul_> wow, pretty cool |
| 07:31:46 | <bwolfe> whats cool? |
| 07:31:56 | <bwolfe> (besides bmckown) |
| 07:32:09 | <bmckown> haha |
| 07:32:43 | <bmckown> docpaul is using mibbit. Maybe that's what's cool. |
| 07:32:50 | <burke> docpaul_: playing with mibbit. |
| 07:32:52 | <burke> hehe |
| 07:33:08 | <burke> unfortunately, I couldn't get the embedded widget to use freenode. it wouldn't connect |
| 07:33:47 | <burke> otherwise, going to openmrs.org/wiki/IRC (or even irc.openmrs.org) could put an embedded mibbit screen in your browser. very cool. |
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| 07:34:19 | <bmckown> It looked cool, except for the small problem of connecting. |
| 07:34:23 | <burke> i did make the mibbit link on the IRC page so it defaults to our channel when it takes you to mibbit.com. |
| 07:35:16 | <bmckown> you removed it, though. |
| 07:35:21 | <Jops87> Hey |
| 07:35:29 | <bmckown> Hi, Jops87 |
| 07:35:54 | <napi> lol |
| 07:35:54 | <burke> bmckown: embedded mibbit is just commented out on the page until it's working |
| 07:36:03 | <napi> just got told my application for one of the other orgs was "unusual" |
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| 07:36:12 | <Jops87> Wasn't this Advanced Digital Image Viewing and Annotation available last year too? |
| 07:36:12 | <bmckown> okay. that's nice. |
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| 07:36:18 | <napi> guy said "it seems like one big discussion" |
| 07:36:27 | <napi> my response of "well.. that was kind of the idea" didn't seem to go down too well lol |
| 07:36:47 | <burke> napi: did they give you any tips on what they'd like to see? |
| 07:36:52 | <napi> heh yeah |
| 07:37:12 | <napi> timeline, and how to do the client- even though I'd put a vague timeline and discussed the client options already \o/ |
| 07:37:28 | <napi> just reading it now and I see what he means though - I spend more time discussing the bad options than the good ones lol |
| 07:37:35 | <napi> problem is I got no idea how I'd do it haha |
| 07:37:44 | <burke> hehe |
| 07:37:47 | <napi> web client for thousand parsec (turn-based space empire game) |
| 07:37:56 | <napi> how the hell do you build a web client for a game? :| |
| 07:38:04 | <napi> best thing i could come up with was an apache module |
| 07:38:11 | <burke> with ruby, of course. ;) |
| 07:38:36 | <burke> i'm sure there's a web-client-for-space-empire-game library in ruby. :p |
| 07:38:42 | <napi> rofl |
| 07:38:53 | <napi> I actually can't even get my head around how to start it |
| 07:39:02 | <napi> you have a server running on a machine |
| 07:39:18 | <napi> people can connect (through game client software) from other machines |
| 07:39:24 | <napi> want to be able to connect through a web interface |
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| 07:53:51 | <maveriick> bwolfe:: didn't get u? |
| 07:54:16 | <bwolfe> where are you going to university? |
| 07:55:01 | <maveriick> In Indian subcontinent: Bangladesh |
| 07:55:34 | <bwolfe> ah ok |
| 07:55:46 | <bwolfe> there are a few potential students in here that live in India |
| 07:56:10 | <bwolfe> there are some in Indonesia I think too...those guys would be on during your daytime hours |
| 07:56:35 | <bwolfe> most of the developers are based in the US and so work around US daytime hours |
| 07:56:45 | <maveriick> bwolfe:: what will be the most critical project in terms of openMRS ....of those three? |
| 07:57:36 | <bwolfe> I know all three of those are popular... |
| 07:57:46 | <bwolfe> I don't know which is the highest priority though |
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| 08:00:18 | <maveriick> bwolfe: by popularity you mean - many students shown interest? |
| 08:01:54 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 08:05:11 | <njero> burke: there is in fact |
| 08:05:35 | <njero> burke: Space empire ruby library.... that is |
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| 08:05:47 | <burke> haha |
| 08:06:14 | <Wiss> hi all |
| 08:06:25 | <njero> We actually made a Space Web Game for our Rails Rumble project in September (over the w/e) |
| 08:06:31 | <burke> hey Wiss |
| 08:08:02 | <maveriick> bwolfe: so is it a bad idea to go for thsoe projects? (although spring and image preocessing both are cool to me...) |
| 08:14:01 | <bwolfe> maveriick: not necessarily |
| 08:17:21 | <burke> maveriick: if you are interested in a particular project, please don't hesitate to apply for it. |
| 08:17:53 | <bwolfe> indeed |
| 08:17:57 | <bwolfe> and let the best student win! |
| 08:18:22 | <burke> we've fielded a fair amount of interest in the image-related projects relative to the others, but our apps are fairly well distributed at the moment |
| 08:18:37 | <maveriick> Would mind checking a draft of mine or prefer to submit all in the web application? |
| 08:18:46 | <burke> happy to |
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| 08:20:35 | <burke> maveriick: i pm'd you with e-mail addresses |
| 08:21:21 | <maveriick> got it, Thanks. |
| 08:23:26 | <nribeka_> bwolfe: there are other Indonesian here? :-) |
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| 08:25:32 | <bwolfe> maybe you're it nribeka_ |
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| 08:26:39 | <nribeka_> haha ... i thought there are others here |
| 08:29:45 | <bwolfe> I remember there being at least a few at one point...but unfortunately I've seen too many new nicknames over the past week to remember who they were :-/ |
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| 08:34:05 | <nribeka_> bwolfe: how do we attach patch to the ticket? i don't see any link on the ticket to do so. |
| 08:34:32 | <bwolfe> I need to give you ticket edit rights |
| 08:34:39 | <bwolfe> what username are you using on trac? |
| 08:34:59 | <nribeka_> nribeka |
| 08:35:42 | <bwolfe> ok, refresh and you should see a box for it now |
| 08:37:50 | <nribeka_> ah, thanks :) |
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| 08:39:46 | <pearlbear> is trac generally slow? I've been noticing that |
| 08:40:31 | <bwolfe> pearlbear: on our new server it is...it uses too much memory :-/ |
| 08:40:43 | <pearlbear> bummer |
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| 08:43:23 | <OpenMRSBot> Hey there Ben! |
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| 08:48:52 | <kane77> hi |
| 08:51:35 | <bwolfe> g'morning kane77 |
| 08:52:07 | <kane77> bwolfe, it's afternoon here ;) |
| 08:54:49 | <kane77> bwolfe, may I have a question? I'm filling application right now and there is a question about websites created by me and/or source code.. what is appropriate to put there? |
| 08:55:25 | <bwolfe> anything you have worked on that would give us an idea of your experience and what/how you code |
| 08:56:34 | <kane77> I've had part time job as a webdesigner, but that was not really programming but rather Photoshop+CSS |
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| 09:01:59 | <bwolfe> kane77: any class projects ? |
| 09:02:11 | <bwolfe> kane77: you don't necessarily need to have programmed a website |
| 09:02:23 | <bwolfe> you can put some of your source code into a google doc and link to that |
| 09:03:11 | <kane77> bwolfe, plenty of them, I will put some there... thank you |
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| 09:04:40 | <kane77> and right now I am doing a web app for our department but I don't think it is relevant to this, because it's Ruby on Rails |
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| 09:05:06 | <burke> aha. so it's not just me: http://mibbit.blogspot.com/2008/02/embeddable-widget-alpha.html -- so embedded mibbit doesn't support freenode yet. :( |
| 09:05:11 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jhH> (at mibbit.blogspot.com) |
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| 09:47:19 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3738]: XForms Module: Organized the default XForm to XHTML stylesheet and added ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3738> |
| 10:03:17 | <bhanu> hello bwolfe |
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| 11:02:45 | <bhanu> hello burke |
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| 11:07:37 | <napi> righty. leaving for my train in 20 minutes- any questions from mentors about my app before I go? :) |
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| 11:08:02 | <napi> (or from any one else in fact... doesn't just have to be mentors) |
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| 11:23:40 | <napi> righty i'm off. ttfn |
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| 11:24:15 | <bhanu> hey burke |
| 11:27:33 | <burke> hey bhanu |
| 11:28:21 | <bhanu> i am apllying for patient portrait module and my application is ready can you see it befor i submit it to google |
| 11:29:53 | <bwolfe_away> napi: sorry, was off at lunch |
| 11:30:02 | <napi> no worries |
| 11:30:03 | <bwolfe_away> napi: we can comment via the google application program thing |
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| 11:30:31 | <bwolfe> napi: not sure if the google app will email you when we do or not |
| 11:30:38 | <napi> it should do |
| 11:30:48 | <napi> and I'll check it a few times a day until I'm back on irc anyway |
| 11:31:07 | <napi> Right i'm off. have a good weekend all. see you sunday |
| 11:31:12 | <bwolfe> napi: have a good trip |
| 11:31:16 | <bwolfe> see you |
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| 11:33:35 | <burke> bhanu: you can either e-mail it to us for review or you can submit it via the google app and we can comment on it and you can make changes there |
| 11:33:51 | <Wiss> I've updated my GSoC application about "Prepackaged OpenMRS Development Studio" :) |
| 11:34:13 | <burke> bmckown, bwolfe: we figured out the complex obs stuff...of course, hl7 has already figured it out for us |
| 11:35:04 | * bwolfe does a drumroll.... |
| 11:35:08 | <bwolfe> burke: whats the solution? |
| 11:35:44 | <burke> so, as paul suggested they have a datatype "encapsulated data" which is our "complex" data type |
| 11:36:33 | <burke> then there are a few extra values accompanying a complex value, including source, type of data, subtype, and encoding |
| 11:36:55 | <burke> so, the answer is a new table: concept_complex with attributes for these specifics |
| 11:37:28 | <burke> when you make a concept "complex" you get a new set of questions (just like for numeric) that let you fill in the details...which includes the handler information |
| 11:40:35 | <burke> for concept_complex, you'd have source (reference to handler), type (e.g., mime type), subtype (for specific info like "this is a CDA document), and encoding (A=no encoding/ASCII, Hex=hex digits, or Base64) |
| 11:41:01 | <burke> it's defined in HL7 manual 2.A.24 :) |
| 11:43:00 | <burke> bmckown++ |
| 11:43:14 | <burke> (for solving James Arbaugh's issue) :) |
| 11:47:15 | <bwolfe> bmckown++ for adding a unit test to go along with it |
| 11:47:38 | <bmckown> aw, thanks guys |
| 11:48:05 | <bmckown> actually I was expecting some criticism on the junit test. |
| 11:48:44 | <bmckown> PersonServiceTest that just borrows fake data from the PatientServiceTest... but it made the process quicker. |
| 11:49:22 | <bmckown> and that doesn't have any other test methods except testGetUvoidedRelationships |
| 11:49:34 | <bwolfe> bmckown what I usually do in those cases is copy/paste the xml from the other test |
| 11:49:54 | <bwolfe> bmckown: there is potential that the test that wrote the xml for that other test might change the xml in a way that would break your unit test |
| 11:50:05 | <bmckown> I suppose I could have done that... just in case the ... I need to type faster. |
| 11:50:13 | <bmckown> yea that |
| 11:50:32 | <bwolfe> bmckown: one test is fine. our testing framework will be built up one junit test at a time... :-) |
| 11:50:34 | <bwolfe> hehe, sorry |
| 11:51:26 | <docpaul> anyone have any questions about google summer of code? |
| 11:52:11 | <bwolfe> docpaul: I think everyone in here has been around for a while |
| 11:52:33 | <bwolfe> where "a while" is "3+ days" |
| 11:52:38 | <docpaul> great. |
| 11:52:47 | <docpaul> i've not "met" kane77 or bhanu |
| 11:52:52 | <burke> docpaul: going fishin? |
| 11:52:57 | <bmckown> anybody know how many rows are in the demo data set? |
| 11:52:57 | <docpaul> or ngref for that matter |
| 11:53:08 | <bhanu> hey docpaul |
| 11:53:09 | <burke> bmckown: more than 15 |
| 11:53:10 | <docpaul> burke: probably |
| 11:53:12 | <bmckown> patients, encounters, obs |
| 11:53:13 | <bwolfe> heh...I've been slacking on the fishing...haven't done it yet this week |
| 11:53:24 | <docpaul> heya bhanu... just checking to make sure noone has questions. :) |
| 11:53:31 | <bwolfe> bmckown: 500,000 obs |
| 11:53:35 | <bmckown> thanks |
| 11:53:37 | <bwolfe> ish |
| 11:53:43 | <docpaul> ben: surprise, surprise |
| 11:53:47 | <bwolfe> I think its closer to 479,000 |
| 11:53:57 | <bwolfe> docpaul: I know :-( |
| 11:54:18 | <bwolfe> bmckown: 5000-10000 patients? I can't remember |
| 11:54:32 | <bwolfe> 50,000 ish encounters...really don't know on that one |
| 11:54:53 | <bwolfe> the demo website has less. This is all the data shipped with openmrs |
| 11:55:43 | <burke> 5284 patients |
| 11:56:06 | <burke> 14316 encounters |
| 11:56:24 | <burke> 476973 observations |
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| 11:56:47 | <burke> approximately :p |
| 11:56:52 | <bmckown> thank you burke |
| 11:57:08 | <bmckown> I'm taking that as exact |
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| 11:57:26 | <praveenr> hi |
| 11:57:28 | <docpaul> hi pravneer and draenom |
| 11:58:00 | <docpaul> we're a participant in the google summer of code project... we have 3 month java paid internships to develop features for our open source medical record system |
| 11:59:15 | <praveenr> but i am basically a python developer .... |
| 11:59:40 | <praveenr> not too familiar with advanced java concepts |
| 12:00:42 | <praveenr> docpaul, but if its for a cause i would like to contribute and learn in the process |
| 12:01:27 | <docpaul> prav: that's the spirit. :) |
| 12:02:03 | <docpaul> i'd suggest starting with: |
| 12:02:34 | <praveenr> ok i am in .... where do i get started ? |
| 12:02:34 | <bwolfe> docpaul: !tabcomplete |
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| 12:03:02 | <Woflborg> i heard there was a party going on here |
| 12:03:23 | <burke> Woflborg: was our music too loud? |
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| 12:04:49 | <docpaul> sec... getting some links for you all to get started: |
| 12:05:15 | <docpaul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_Overview |
| 12:05:26 | <docpaul> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5181254373166129293 |
| 12:05:27 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1hlN> (at video.google.com) |
| 12:05:49 | <docpaul> http://projects.openmrs.org |
| 12:05:54 | <docpaul> heya Woflborg. :) |
| 12:06:02 | <bwolfe> !gsocfaq |
| 12:06:02 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "gsocfaq" --- The GSoC 2008 FAQs are quite complete: http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html |
| 12:06:40 | <docpaul> ben: can you make a few of those for the above links? |
| 12:06:43 | <docpaul> !overview |
| 12:06:43 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: "overview" --- An overview of OpenMRS: http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_Overview |
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| 12:06:47 | <docpaul> sweet!! |
| 12:06:51 | <docpaul> !techtalk |
| 12:06:51 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: Error: "techtalk" is not a valid command. |
| 12:06:56 | <bwolfe> !googlevideo |
| 12:06:56 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "googlevideo" --- Presentation on OpenMRS done at Google HQ: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5181254373166129293 |
| 12:07:01 | <docpaul> haha |
| 12:07:07 | <docpaul> !projects |
| 12:07:07 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: Error: "projects" is not a valid command. |
| 12:07:25 | <docpaul> how does one make those? |
| 12:07:27 | <docpaul> i love it |
| 12:07:39 | <bwolfe> !projects |
| 12:07:39 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Projects |
| 12:07:46 | <nribeka> docpaul: at the video, which one is you and which one is burke? |
| 12:07:53 | <bwolfe> docpaul: authenticate to the bot |
| 12:07:54 | <burke> the good looking one |
| 12:07:57 | <brilliantnut> hey docpaul, I just saw your invite on ##java |
| 12:08:13 | <burke> er, the good looking one is burke |
| 12:08:15 | <bwolfe> docpaul: then do !learn #openmrs ____ as _____________________________ |
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| 12:09:14 | <bwolfe> !techtalk |
| 12:09:14 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "techtalk" --- Presentation on OpenMRS done at Google HQ: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5181254373166129293 |
| 12:09:14 | <docpaul> heya brilliant. :) |
| 12:09:17 | <bwolfe> !techtalkwhois |
| 12:09:17 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "techtalkwhois" --- Paul is the tall one. Burke is the good looking one. |
| 12:09:25 | <burke> hehe |
| 12:09:33 | <burke> bwolfe++ |
| 12:09:36 | <burke> OpenMRSBot++ |
| 12:09:38 | <bmckown> !techtalk |
| 12:09:38 | <OpenMRSBot> bmckown: "techtalk" --- Presentation on OpenMRS done at Google HQ: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5181254373166129293 |
| 12:09:44 | <brilliantnut> while I wouldn't be eligible for it personally (since I'm working since the last 4 odd years), I have a friend who is in his final year of engineering, looking for something productive to do with his free time... |
| 12:09:44 | <bmckown> That's fun. |
| 12:10:03 | <docpaul> brilliant: hard for me to imagine something better than working on OpenMRS |
| 12:10:16 | <bwolfe> bmckown: you should be able to authenticate to the bot as well and add factoids as needed |
| 12:10:20 | <docpaul> good for the brain, good for the heart, good for the cv, and good for the wallet |
| 12:10:25 | <bmckown> Can we have the techtalk just fastforward to begin at the spot it shows burkes baby picture? |
| 12:10:40 | <bmckown> Right. I'll have to go collect some facts. |
| 12:10:43 | <brilliantnut> except, we're in india... |
| 12:10:47 | <docpaul> doesnt matter! |
| 12:10:55 | <docpaul> you dont have to work in the US |
| 12:11:11 | <burke> we have limited applicants to planet earth this yar |
| 12:11:14 | <burke> *year |
| 12:11:27 | <brilliantnut> cool... I'll try to see if I can get this dude online right now... |
| 12:11:36 | <docpaul> great |
| 12:12:12 | <docpaul> brilliant: we also have internship opportunities for especially qualified java jedis through our own internship program |
| 12:12:20 | <praveenr> docpaul, the project is really exciting .... |
| 12:12:24 | <docpaul> so, if you're personally interested, there are still ways you can get involved |
| 12:12:35 | <docpaul> prav: i think so too. :) |
| 12:12:41 | <bwolfe> !tabcomplete |
| 12:12:41 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "tabcomplete" --- Most IRC clients let you easily write someone's nickname in the channel using tab completion. Just type the first few letters, then <tab>, and voila! |
| 12:12:53 | <burke> praveenr: we are python coders too. :p |
| 12:13:12 | <burke> but playing more with Groovy these days, since it integrates so well with Java |
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| 12:13:53 | <praveenr> oh k ... but i am open to any language |
| 12:14:45 | <praveenr> i am a student ... |
| 12:14:46 | * nribeka watching openMRS presentation |
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| 12:16:00 | <brilliantnut> whoops, sorry about the false alarm.. I just called the guy, but he's already found something else to occupy his time.... so he's not biting... |
| 12:16:15 | <brilliantnut> all the best, people... |
| 12:16:20 | <docpaul> same to you. :) |
| 12:16:27 | <burke> we aren't going anywhere. |
| 12:16:30 | <burke> :) |
| 12:16:37 | <bwolfe> oh we're going somewhere |
| 12:16:41 | <burke> hehe |
| 12:16:55 | <burke> !wherewearegoing |
| 12:16:55 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: Error: "wherewearegoing" is not a valid command. |
| 12:17:05 | <docpaul> !techtalk |
| 12:17:05 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: "techtalk" --- Presentation on OpenMRS done at Google HQ: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5181254373166129293 |
| 12:17:11 | <burke> :x |
| 12:17:12 | <docpaul> i like it |
| 12:17:28 | <docpaul> !projects |
| 12:17:28 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Projects |
| 12:17:46 | <burke> !docpaul |
| 12:17:46 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: Error: "docpaul" is not a valid command. |
| 12:17:52 | <nribeka> docpaul: hahaha ... |
| 12:17:56 | <sunbiz> :)) |
| 12:17:57 | <burke> why not paul's blog? |
| 12:18:05 | <docpaul> heya, that's kinda cool |
| 12:18:12 | <burke> !learn docpaul http://docpaul.blogspot.com |
| 12:18:12 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: Invalid arguments for learn. |
| 12:18:56 | <burke> !learn docpaul http://docpaul.wordpress.com |
| 12:18:56 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: Invalid arguments for learn. |
| 12:18:57 | <docpaul> !learn openmrs docpaul as http://www.docpaul.net |
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| 12:18:58 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:19:03 | <docpaul> !docpaul |
| 12:19:03 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: Error: "docpaul" is not a valid command. |
| 12:19:05 | <bwolfe> burke: you need "as" in there |
| 12:19:11 | <docpaul> !learn #openmrs docpaul as http://www.docpaul.net |
| 12:19:11 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:19:14 | <docpaul> !docpaul |
| 12:19:14 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: "docpaul" --- http://www.docpaul.net |
| 12:19:35 | <burke> !learn #openmrs burke as http://burkeware.com |
| 12:19:35 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:19:40 | <burke> !burke |
| 12:19:40 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: "burke" --- http://burkeware.com |
| 12:19:52 | <burke> :D |
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| 12:20:00 | *** docpaul_ is now known as docpaul |
| 12:20:01 | <bwolfe> you guys are so easily amused |
| 12:20:07 | <sunbiz> :)) |
| 12:20:09 | <docpaul> i wish i could have paul. :( |
| 12:20:51 | <burke> let's find "paul" and talk him out of his nick. |
| 12:20:56 | <docpaul> that would rock |
| 12:20:58 | <burke> hopefully freenode wasn't founded by "paul" |
| 12:21:02 | <brilliantnut> !help learn |
| 12:21:02 | <OpenMRSBot> brilliantnut: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 12:21:34 | <brilliantnut> ^^^^ says #openmrs is unnecessary, right? |
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| 12:21:38 | <burke> yup |
| 12:21:55 | <burke> !learn learn as http://en.wikipedia.org/WTF |
| 12:21:55 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:21:59 | <burke> uh oh |
| 12:22:05 | <bwolfe> !forget learn |
| 12:22:05 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:22:05 | <burke> !learn |
| 12:22:06 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: Invalid arguments for learn. |
| 12:22:11 | <bwolfe> haha |
| 12:22:13 | <bwolfe> I win |
| 12:22:24 | <burke> :x |
| 12:22:52 | <bmckown> Hey that's a nice page about Weight Transfer Front. |
| 12:23:02 | <bmckown> Work Time Fun |
| 12:23:10 | <bmckown> World Taekwondo Federation |
| 12:23:22 | <burke> wtf? |
| 12:23:42 | <bmckown> What The ... brb |
| 12:23:58 | <bwolfe> burke: that wouldn't actually override the !learn command. the factoids only print out if !____ is not a valid command |
| 12:24:33 | <burke> !about |
| 12:24:33 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: Error: "about" is not a valid command. |
| 12:24:47 | <bmckown> !time |
| 12:24:47 | <OpenMRSBot> bmckown: Error: "time" is not a valid command. |
| 12:25:01 | <burke> !learn time as http://timeanddate.com |
| 12:25:01 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:25:03 | <bmckown> Okay, it's 2:24. gotta go for now. |
| 12:25:05 | <burke> !time |
| 12:25:05 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: "time" --- http://timeanddate.com |
| 12:26:11 | <nribeka> burke: i like the picture of you when you were young hehe ... :) |
| 12:26:17 | <burke> hehe |
| 12:26:28 | <burke> i touched it up a bit to make me look nicer. |
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| 12:26:54 | <burke> !projects |
| 12:26:54 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Projects |
| 12:26:58 | <nribeka> burke: haha ... |
| 12:26:59 | <burke> cule |
| 12:27:32 | <burke> !learn projects as OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org |
| 12:27:32 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:27:37 | <burke> !projects |
| 12:27:37 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: "projects" --- (#1) OpenMRS Projects: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Projects, or (#2) OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org |
| 12:27:41 | <burke> :x |
| 12:27:50 | <burke> !help unlearn |
| 12:27:50 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: Error: There is no command "unlearn". |
| 12:27:54 | <burke> !help forget |
| 12:27:54 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 12:27:56 | <docpaul> !forget projects |
| 12:27:56 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: Error: 2 factoids have that key. Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them. |
| 12:28:01 | <docpaul> !forget projects * |
| 12:28:01 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:28:10 | <burke> !learn projects as OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org |
| 12:28:10 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:28:20 | <burke> !projects |
| 12:28:20 | <OpenMRSBot> burke: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org |
| 12:28:28 | <burke> :D |
| 12:28:32 | <burke> docpaul++ |
| 12:28:44 | <sunbiz> why is everyone bullying the bot ?? |
| 12:29:11 | <docpaul> !learn gettingstarted as You might want to look at !overview, !techtalk, and !projects |
| 12:29:11 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:29:13 | <sunbiz> some competition annoucnement I just missed ?? |
| 12:29:15 | <docpaul> !gettingstarted |
| 12:29:15 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: "gettingstarted" --- You might want to look at !overview, !techtalk, and !projects |
| 12:29:43 | <docpaul> me likey a lot... major time saver |
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| 12:30:08 | <docpaul> OpenMRSBot++ |
| 12:30:15 | <bwolfe> !karma |
| 12:30:15 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Highest karma: "docpaul" (3), "~docpaul" (2), and "OpenMRSBot" (2). Lowest karma: "r0bby" (-1), "scriptlets" (-1), and "~burke" (0). You (bwolfe) are ranked 4 out of 10. |
| 12:32:29 | <docpaul> sunbiz: no, it's understanding how our own bot works |
| 12:32:39 | <docpaul> given that it's been in here a year... it's about time to learn that |
| 12:32:40 | <docpaul> :) |
| 12:33:29 | <sunbiz> yea... true... and Im watching u guys and learning |
| 12:33:51 | <bwolfe> docpaul: this is actually a new bot...it's only about 2 months old :-) |
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| 12:36:08 | <burke> gottta go for the dev conference... bbl |
| 12:36:10 | <djazayeri> stop playing around on irc and get on the phone call. :P |
| 12:38:01 | <Woflborg> well thats a nice presentation on google video |
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| 12:43:17 | <docpaul> thanks Woflborg |
| 12:43:21 | <docpaul> that was a fun day |
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| 12:47:04 | <bmckown> !time |
| 12:47:04 | <OpenMRSBot> bmckown: "time" --- http://timeanddate.com |
| 12:47:08 | <bmckown> that's lame |
| 12:47:30 | <bmckown> Should actually give the time. |
| 12:47:37 | <bmckown> hehe |
| 12:47:52 | <bwolfe> bmckown: look to the left of your comment...xchat timestamps everything (or at least optionally does) |
| 12:48:48 | <bmckown> So we shouldn't allow OpenMRS Bot to learn something for time, then? |
| 12:49:37 | <bwolfe> bmckown: learn is just simple string stuff...I don't think we can make it learn a python command :-p |
| 12:49:53 | <bwolfe> bmckown: there is probably a supybot plugin that computes the current time and displays it |
| 12:50:11 | <bmckown> You're making javabot sound much better. |
| 12:50:31 | <bwolfe> how does that make javabot sounds any better !? |
| 12:50:40 | <[OmegentooX]> print time.localtime() =P |
| 12:50:45 | <bmckown> ~randomnumber |
| 12:51:15 | <bmckown> r0bby__ has programmed javabot to do some cool stuff. |
| 12:52:33 | <[OmegentooX]> I've been working on a theoretically cool python bot with a friend of mine. I say theoretically because while it has a cool module system, we haven't written any modules other than a Markov chain module that learns from the channel text and randomly spits out markov chains |
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| 12:53:34 | <bwolfe> [OmegentooX]: why not just write a plugin for an already written bot? :-p say...supybot :-) |
| 12:53:54 | <[OmegentooX]> That's totally not as fun |
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| 13:05:40 | <masonf> Are you going to be commenting on apps over the weekend? |
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| 13:15:28 | <bwolfe> masonf: probably not until applications are closed |
| 13:15:35 | <bwolfe> masonf: did you want a comment sooner than that? :-) |
| 13:17:32 | <r0bby__> bmckown: all i wrote was _ONE_ plugin and i ripped that :P |
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| 13:17:58 | <bmckown> ripped? |
| 13:19:03 | <r0bby__> yeh one other operation did what i needed; so i ripped the code from there and added the extra information i needed; javabot uses spring, hibernate JPA, and wicket for its frontend (admin and the other parts i told you about) |
| 13:19:24 | <r0bby__> I'd be willing to peek @ supybot |
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| 13:21:57 | <r0bby> and bmckown good news -- javabot is open source :) \ |
| 13:22:17 | <r0bby> but right now you have to manually remove cheeser's default pass |
| 13:22:31 | <r0bby> which is cheeser/cheeser for username/pass |
| 13:23:45 | <bmckown> hmm. At any rate we'll probably be sticking with SupyBot for now. Next bot change I'll look further into javabot. |
| 13:23:57 | <brilliantnut> what sort of functionality are you looking for now? |
| 13:24:07 | <brilliantnut> in the bot, I mean.. |
| 13:24:27 | <bmckown> do funny things and log the irc. |
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| 13:26:49 | <brilliantnut> well, !list seems to list a ChannelLogger, so maybe the latter is already there... you probably have to activate a plugin or something |
| 13:27:09 | <bwolfe> um, bmckown we do log the irc |
| 13:27:13 | <bwolfe> see /topic |
| 13:27:28 | <bmckown> bwolfe: wish you would pay attention to the conversation |
| 13:28:10 | <bwolfe> what part of hte conversation did I miss? |
| 13:28:18 | <bwolfe> bmckown-- |
| 13:29:29 | <bmckown> brilliantnut asked what we want in a bot. I said "funny things and log the irc". Before that I said we would stick with SupyBot. (it does what we need for now) That is, of course I know that we log the irc. |
| 13:29:42 | <bmckown> bwolfe: |
| 13:30:23 | <bwolfe> yes, but brilliantnut's question was: "what sort of functionality are you looking for NOW?" ...implying what we didn't have that made you keep commenting on javabot (besides that you want to keep mentioned r0bby did some stuff for it) |
| 13:30:55 | <bwolfe> mentioned=mentioning |
| 13:31:46 | <[OmegentooX]> Anyone know what Jim Manico is up to on the XForms aside from the Firefox XForms plugin test he posted on the dev list? |
| 13:31:46 | <bmckown> the key word you said was "implying". What is implied is up to the reader. |
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| 13:32:59 | <bwolfe> the writer implies, the reader infers |
| 13:33:23 | <bwolfe> ...but I seem to have disturbed him :-/ |
| 13:33:47 | <r0bby> haha i keyed in the wrong SSN |
| 13:33:54 | <r0bby> on my app. for readmission |
| 13:34:19 | <r0bby> oops |
| 13:34:22 | <r0bby> fixed it |
| 13:35:12 | <r0bby> supybot is extendable |
| 13:35:42 | <r0bby> bwolfe: all you'd need is a tomcat install to drop javabot's war in :P |
| 13:36:10 | <bwolfe> r0bby: we have tomcat installs coming out the ear...openmrs is a webapp afterall. :-) |
| 13:36:18 | <r0bby> :) |
| 13:37:41 | <bwolfe> ...but supybot is really one of the most widely used bots, does everything we want, etc. I see no reason to switch |
| 13:43:17 | <r0bby> good =) |
| 13:43:35 | <r0bby> because one thing in ##java regulars notice is javabot lags |
| 13:43:56 | <r0bby> brilliantnut; what ya here for :) |
| 13:44:00 | <r0bby> soc? |
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| 13:52:53 | <docpaul> !help |
| 13:52:53 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 13:53:02 | <docpaul> !help commands |
| 13:53:03 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: (commands takes no arguments) -- Returns a list of the commands offered by the bot. |
| 13:53:10 | <docpaul> !commands |
| 13:53:10 | <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: action, add, alert, announce, any, apropos, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, clear, cmd, commands, config, cpu, cycle, default, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, dump, enable, export, flush, forget, (2 more messages) |
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| 13:57:03 | <r0bby> w00t grails no longer hangds!!!! |
| 13:57:14 | <[OmegentooX]> docpaul, I'm working on my SoC app now |
| 13:57:16 | <r0bby> just when i was about to write an angry blog post too |
| 13:57:31 | * r0bby shakes fist |
| 13:57:58 | * r0bby throws a rubber chicken at docpaul |
| 13:57:59 | <docpaul> [OmegentooX]: great. :) |
| 13:58:17 | * docpaul ducks, spins, and karate chops r0bby |
| 13:58:25 | <r0bby> oh shit |
| 13:58:35 | * r0bby is happy now |
| 13:59:25 | <r0bby> and is tigerdirect's site screwy in firefox... |
| 13:59:55 | <r0bby> http://mybawx.org/web/tigerdirect.png |
| 14:00:51 | <bwolfe> r0bby: I think that the fact that you're shopping on tigerdirect is screwy... |
| 14:01:06 | <bwolfe> ...and its screwy for me too r0bby |
| 14:01:25 | <r0bby> bwolfe: newegg's return policy for LCDs is...bad. |
| 14:01:45 | <r0bby> I wonder if monkeys designed that site |
| 14:01:52 | <r0bby> or at most 12 year olds |
| 14:01:57 | <bwolfe> monkeys that used IE |
| 14:02:03 | <bwolfe> *used=use |
| 14:02:36 | <r0bby> you can't deploy a webapp w/o testing it in ALL browsers |
| 14:02:44 | <bwolfe> people do |
| 14:02:53 | <bwolfe> and did for about 10 years while IE6 dominated |
| 14:04:06 | * r0bby dances |
| 14:04:21 | <r0bby> I want: my books and my monitor :( |
| 14:04:36 | <r0bby> one is coming from the west; one from the south |
| 14:05:09 | <r0bby> now here's a funny question: where will they meet :P \ |
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| 14:07:18 | <r0bby> day by day i ruin my chances for soc :/ |
| 14:07:45 | <[OmegentooX]> Bah. IBM made some promising sounding XForms abandonware |
| 14:09:09 | <[OmegentooX]> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-xfrmdesigner/ |
| 14:09:10 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jo9> (at www.ibm.com) |
| 14:09:23 | <bwolfe> r0bby: if shipped by fedex, they'll probably meet in indy :-p |
| 14:09:45 | <r0bby> LOL |
| 14:09:50 | <r0bby> UPS |
| 14:11:12 | <r0bby> UPS/USPS |
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| 14:23:19 | <r0bby> burke is a doctor @ a teaching hospital? |
| 14:24:21 | <bwolfe> r0bby: yes |
| 14:24:27 | <bwolfe> an internist |
| 14:25:10 | <r0bby> ah |
| 14:25:15 | <r0bby> that's neat :) |
| 14:25:25 | <r0bby> I thought private practice |
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| 14:31:16 | <Glen> Regarding concepts in openmrs - can concepts have relationships with other concepts? in terms of specialization / generalization? |
| 14:33:49 | * r0bby has no clue |
| 14:33:52 | <Glen> to facilitate population analysis, data mining, etc |
| 14:34:27 | <bwolfe> Glen: not really sure what you mean |
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| 14:38:03 | <bwolfe> mibbit go down? :-/ |
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| 14:42:50 | <Glen> bwolfe: yes, mibbit just quit on me |
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| 14:47:59 | <Glen> bwolfe: I'm referring to SNOMED-CT principles (concepts are part of multi-dimensional concept hierarchies), wondering how rich the openmrs concept dictionary is |
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| 14:55:37 | * r0bby|mibbit sees mibbit |
| 14:55:45 | <r0bby|mibbit> yeh me n o like |
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| 15:08:40 | <Glen> Does the concept map support a single-concept hierarchy? implicitly? |
| 15:10:42 | <burke> concept map is meant to map concepts defined within an openmrs implmentations to vocabulary within another implementation or a standardized vocabulary |
| 15:11:20 | <Glen> so no inherent concept hierarchical support? |
| 15:11:20 | <burke> so a concept like HEMOGLOBIN in the concept dictionary could be mapped to an ICD-10 code, a LOINC code, a SNOMED code, etc. |
| 15:11:32 | <burke> the hierarchy is represented in concept_set |
| 15:12:21 | <burke> map is for mapping between separate vocabularies, concept_set is for defining hierarchies within the local concept dictionary |
| 15:13:59 | <Glen> so say that you have one concept "1. disorder of the urinary system" and another concept "2. kidney disease". How can you show that concept 2 is a specialization of concept 1? |
| 15:15:50 | <burke> not so much at the moment. concept_map could do that ... we have planned on a relationship attribute to specify the "is_a" vs. "is_part_of_a" stuff. but haven't built it yet |
| 15:16:31 | <burke> we would rely on external vocabularies to do heavy duty ontologies |
| 15:17:27 | <burke> though we've been hoping to incorporate some design ideas from the openEHR folk |
| 15:17:55 | <Glen> very smart, burke. the ontologies have already been defined for the most part. I'm thinking about how we could take advantage of that work in a custom concept dictionary. |
| 15:18:27 | <r0bby> burke: o/ |
| 15:19:17 | <burke> i suppose you could create a module to use external knowledge to add enhanced features...hmmm...interesting |
| 15:19:27 | <burke> r0bby: yo. |
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| 15:20:10 | <r0bby> apologies for that notice |
| 15:20:14 | <r0bby> s/notice/memo/ |
| 15:20:34 | <njero> hmm, I think that the concept set still gets you where you want to get |
| 15:20:57 | <Glen> burke: in rmrs, is there a centralized "terminology service" or is it part of the core system? |
| 15:21:08 | <burke> r0bby: are you talking about the ruby reference? :p |
| 15:21:21 | <r0bby> erm...no :P |
| 15:21:28 | <r0bby> that I fully meant :P |
| 15:21:43 | <r0bby> i was talking about the memoserv one :P |
| 15:22:07 | <burke> Glen: RMRS uses a central dictionary similar to what we've built rather than a terminology service AFAIK |
| 15:22:33 | * r0bby goes to fiddle w/ stuff |
| 15:22:37 | <r0bby> yeh...stuff |
| 15:22:58 | <burke> r0bby: i haven't used memoserv (kinda an irc n00b) |
| 15:23:06 | <r0bby> ah |
| 15:23:13 | <r0bby> /ms read 1 |
| 15:23:16 | <r0bby> /ms read 2 |
| 15:23:31 | <r0bby> assuming your client supports it |
| 15:23:40 | <r0bby> is bwolfe a doctor too? |
| 15:23:58 | <r0bby> the /ms command that is. |
| 15:24:29 | <burke> ah. got it. |
| 15:24:29 | <r0bby> but it's not important anymore as i took care of what i was asking |
| 15:24:42 | <njero> is Jim in this channel? |
| 15:24:51 | <burke> bwolfe and bmckown are not docs...they save lives through code |
| 15:24:56 | <Glen> burke: thanks for your responses. my questions are getting beyond the scope of openmrs now so I'll hold off. |
| 15:25:20 | <r0bby> bwolfe had an iupui.edu hostmask |
| 15:25:21 | <burke> Glen: no problem. |
| 15:25:25 | * r0bby hopes to do so too |
| 15:26:01 | <burke> r0bby: docpaul, burke, bwolfe, and bmckown all work at http://regenstrief.org (on IUPUI campus) |
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| 15:27:10 | <r0bby> ah |
| 15:27:17 | <r0bby> okay |
| 15:28:17 | <r0bby> :) |
| 15:28:42 | <r0bby> how bad will my hyperness affect my chances for soc :( |
| 15:29:26 | <burke> there's still about a 5% chance you'll get in |
| 15:29:36 | <r0bby> 5%? |
| 15:29:37 | <r0bby> :( |
| 15:29:45 | <burke> hey, at least I rounded up ;) |
| 15:29:51 | <burke> :p |
| 15:29:54 | <r0bby> awww come on |
| 15:30:05 | <r0bby> I seriously hope i get in you guys forced me to apply |
| 15:30:16 | <burke> r0bby: I can't make any guarantees until we've got all the applications and have prioritized them & assigned mentors, etc. |
| 15:30:33 | <burke> I hope you do too. :) |
| 15:30:48 | <r0bby> i'm pretty sure you're gonna be my mentor as it's YOUR module :P |
| 15:30:54 | <burke> hehe |
| 15:31:06 | <burke> poor r0bby |
| 15:31:21 | * r0bby worried :( |
| 15:31:59 | * r0bby will be getting his reference guides and such on monday |
| 15:33:49 | <Woflborg> i claim false advertisement |
| 15:33:59 | <r0bby> Woflborg? |
| 15:34:10 | <Woflborg> the party's only for the select few :P |
| 15:34:19 | <r0bby> ... |
| 15:34:44 | <r0bby> shove it :P |
| 15:34:45 | <njero> Glen: So tell me if this satisfies what you are looking for. You have concept_id 1, which is the concept for URINARY DISORDERS, is_set is true. Then you have concept_id 2 which is the concept for BLADDER INFECTION. Then you have a concept set definition where cocnept_id = 1 and concept_set = 2. The FK in there denotes a has_a relationship, but you can use an IFP to figure the reverse (though the graph may result in multiple parents) |
| 15:35:33 | <njero> burke: any comments on that ^ |
| 15:37:45 | <Woflborg> r0bby: if theres couple hundread applicants, i wonder how many they take :P ? |
| 15:37:49 | <burke> njero: concept_set is primary a has_a relationship...so it would be limited to as much as you could do with that relationship. |
| 15:38:18 | <r0bby> Woflborg: stop trolling |
| 15:38:34 | <r0bby> I'm not as dumb as you think |
| 15:38:51 | <burke> but i am. i am definitely as dumb as you think. |
| 15:38:57 | <njero> me too |
| 15:39:02 | <Glen> njero, burke: it gets rather beautiful when you consider that a relationship is also a concept |
| 15:39:15 | <burke> aaaaaaaaaaaah! |
| 15:39:20 | * burke head explodes! |
| 15:39:25 | <njero> LOL |
| 15:39:25 | <burke> *'s |
| 15:39:36 | <r0bby> and Woflborg: say 50% of the applicants apply for one of the projects -- they'll only take one of those obviously |
| 15:39:47 | <burke> create table thing (id int, value blob). done. :p |
| 15:39:52 | <r0bby> my project has no competition afaik |
| 15:39:56 | <njero> Glen, I think I would disagree with that thinking... |
| 15:40:21 | <Woflborg> r0bby: one project, or one applicant ? |
| 15:40:35 | <r0bby> one project |
| 15:40:46 | <njero> The relationships are predicates, the subjects and objects are nouns... aka concepts... |
| 15:40:52 | <burke> I appreciate the potential of concepts defining the relationships...but I think I'll leave that level of mind-bending for folks like Cimino, et al. :D |
| 15:40:58 | <r0bby> one applicant per project |
| 15:41:24 | <r0bby> who is Cimino? |
| 15:41:33 | <njero> But it definitely is something that has potential :) |
| 15:42:21 | <burke> r0bby: http://www.dbmi.columbia.edu/cimino/ -- he does a lot of work with vocabularies at Columbia. There are folks in Minnesota and/or Wisconsin doing some good work as well. |
| 15:42:33 | <burke> There are definitely much smarter ontology wizards than I |
| 15:42:38 | <burke> s/I/me. |
| 15:42:49 | <Woflborg> r0bby: so the amount of people accepted equals the amount of projects :P ? |
| 15:43:29 | * njero nods ... than me too... |
| 15:44:07 | <burke> Woflborg: organizations assign mentors to students and then rank the projects, then Google comes along and sets a threshhold (number of slots) for each org. All projects (apps) prioritized above that threshhold are accepted. |
| 15:44:41 | <burke> I'm like a caveman working with is_a and has_a. Show me a bic lighter and I'm dangerous. :p |
| 15:44:49 | <r0bby> ah |
| 15:45:10 | <r0bby> Woflborg: this project is a VERY worthy cause. |
| 15:45:26 | <r0bby> OH i prolly ran into him |
| 15:45:44 | <Woflborg> burke: so is the amount of people restricted somehow ? |
| 15:45:46 | <r0bby> or at least saw him and didnt know |
| 15:45:47 | <r0bby> :x |
| 15:46:00 | <r0bby> Woflborg: by the number of slots alloted by google |
| 15:46:28 | <r0bby> burke : wow |
| 15:46:40 | <r0bby> At Cimino :) |
| 15:47:27 | <Woflborg> im still a bit confused. So how do they prioritize them over the threshold ? |
| 15:47:30 | <r0bby> btw burke what is hl7? |
| 15:47:35 | <r0bby> ugh |
| 15:47:37 | * r0bby googles |
| 15:47:47 | <r0bby> health level 7 |
| 15:47:58 | <r0bby> :/ |
| 15:48:09 | <r0bby> okay now i understand slightly |
| 15:48:18 | <burke> r0bby: you can see an example here: http://openmrs.org/wiki/HL7 |
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| 15:48:48 | <r0bby> thanks burke |
| 15:48:53 | <burke> it's nothing fancy. just about 1,000,000 man hours of creating an international standard for how to transmit medical information between systems |
| 15:49:04 | <r0bby> ah |
| 15:49:10 | <r0bby> ... nothing fancy?! |
| 15:49:20 | <r0bby> that's ...an understatement |
| 15:49:28 | <burke> the original format (ER7) uses pipes (vertical bars) to separate fields, ^ between subfields. the spec defines what goes into each slot. |
| 15:49:47 | <r0bby> ah |
| 15:50:00 | <nribeka> but they use xml now right burke? for the new hl7? |
| 15:50:24 | <njero> nribeka: yep |
| 15:50:26 | <r0bby> I'd like to convert the arden antlr grammar to antlrv3 but i my second monitor will help greatly as i can have the other grammar up while i work :) |
| 15:50:29 | <burke> there's an XML version that folks are migrating to (all this is version 2.x). there's a version 3 that models just about all medical knowledge, but it's only getting adopted slowly since not enough of us are smart enough to get it. |
| 15:50:46 | <r0bby> m y head is about to explode |
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| 15:51:21 | <burke> r0bby: you should touch base with Vibha to let her know what you're up to. I'm sure she'd appreciate the help. |
| 15:51:30 | <burke> stand back... |
| 15:51:38 | <r0bby> I'm gonna |
| 15:51:43 | <r0bby> I'd need her input |
| 15:51:53 | <r0bby> If i finish my soc project early i'll look into it |
| 15:52:08 | <r0bby> But in all likelihood i wont but it may happen :) |
| 15:52:12 | <nribeka> haha ... sorry for directly jump in to conversation. almost fell asleep at a kinda boring class :P |
| 15:52:17 | <r0bby> if she comes online i'll talk to her :) |
| 15:52:50 | <njero> for the record I was mistaken when I said you could use an IFP (inverse functional property rule) to get the parent of a has_a... I think you can only infer it is inverse and that it is transitive... the fact that it can belong to multiple sets means it is not functional in ontology speak... at least I think so. Regardless you do get more than just has_a when you define has_a... |
| 15:53:41 | * njero clearly needs sleep... |
| 15:53:49 | <njero> burke: where are you now? |
| 15:54:02 | <nribeka> njero: me too :( |
| 15:54:20 | <burke> at work. and about to get in trouble with my wife. I should be leaving about 30 minutes ago... |
| 15:54:29 | <njero> at IU? |
| 15:56:06 | <njero> am I right in thinking you were in Kenya? |
| 15:56:40 | <burke> nope. not now. i'm at IU |
| 15:56:46 | <njero> aha okay |
| 15:56:59 | <burke> are you in malawi? |
| 15:57:06 | <njero> yeah |
| 15:57:14 | <burke> are things formtastic there? |
| 15:57:25 | <njero> I have had a lot of setbacks lately... but they are getting formtastic again |
| 15:57:45 | <nribeka> what is formtastic? |
| 15:57:47 | <njero> I ended up with Malaria and right when I was back in shape I lost two harddrives... |
| 15:57:54 | <njero> http://formtastic.us |
| 15:58:04 | <burke> ouch! |
| 15:58:13 | <burke> and *that* slowed you down? ;) |
| 15:58:39 | <njero> And that was afte being arrested and convicted of criminal activity! |
| 15:58:48 | <burke> ? |
| 15:58:57 | <burke> fyi - this chat room is logged |
| 15:59:00 | <burke> :D |
| 15:59:20 | <njero> My car wasn't properly registered... which is a fairly serious offense here... |
| 15:59:30 | <r0bby> ... |
| 15:59:34 | <njero> yeah I know it is logged, I blogged it too :) |
| 15:59:39 | <nribeka> interesting |
| 15:59:47 | <burke> njero: I'm not sure I can speak with you any longer. Not registered? Shame on you. |
| 15:59:48 | <r0bby> njero: anything do, say, can and will be used against you in a court of law |
| 15:59:55 | <r0bby> and your employers WILL find this |
| 16:00:08 | <njero> nribeka: it is a project to designed as an option for HTML Forms + Javascript as a layer for OpenMRS inputs |
| 16:00:42 | <nribeka> ah, who develop it? |
| 16:00:46 | <Glen> r0bby: re - arden sytax grammar - i have an egrammar for http://sablecc.org/ |
| 16:00:51 | <njero> nribeka: it is my OpenMRS Internship Project to figure out how to make it work well with OpenMRS in a Java setting (it is written in Ruby using rails) |
| 16:00:55 | <r0bby> Glen: bah |
| 16:01:01 | <r0bby> Glen: bah |
| 16:01:04 | <burke> r0bby: fyi - we will likely want to get some inspiration from formtastic for a groovy module |
| 16:01:05 | <r0bby> antlr is better |
| 16:01:17 | * r0bby ducks |
| 16:01:18 | <njero> it was originally developed by Mike Mckay (Baobab Health) with the help of WHO I think |
| 16:01:31 | <r0bby> wait |
| 16:01:33 | <r0bby> rewrite it? |
| 16:01:40 | <njero> burke: I thought that was vice versa! |
| 16:01:50 | <burke> okay folks...i'd love to stick around, but a bell is tolling for me. |
| 16:01:53 | <r0bby> burke: write up a specific thing up for what you expect of me :x |
| 16:01:53 | <burke> njero: :D |
| 16:02:01 | <njero> night burke! thanks again |
| 16:02:09 | <r0bby> so i can check off each item i complete |
| 16:02:23 | <nribeka> see you around burke |
| 16:02:23 | <r0bby> whether or not i get accepted |
| 16:02:27 | <r0bby> later :) |
| 16:02:44 | <burke> r0bby: i'll write up a brief project description so you know what you're getting yourself into ;) |
| 16:02:46 | <burke> later. |
| 16:02:50 | <nribeka> i'm overwhelmed with openMRS |
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| 16:03:13 | <nribeka> this project is so huge |
| 16:03:23 | <nribeka> lots of thing to learn haha ... |
| 16:03:56 | <nribeka> got to run ... see you guys around |
| 16:04:01 | <njero> see ya |
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| 16:04:15 | <njero> midnight here... I think I may start to fade out |
| 16:06:12 | * r0bby dances |
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| 16:24:48 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Modules: BirtReportModule 1.5 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=birt&version=&1.5> |
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| 17:40:45 | <HongJun> djazayeri: have you read my mail about the GSoC application? |
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| 17:50:35 | <r0bby> i love it when my system acts up :D |
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| 18:05:55 | <sunbiz> hi guys |
| 18:06:07 | <r0bby> hey |
| 18:06:15 | <sunbiz> howz it going robby ?? |
| 18:06:22 | <sunbiz> finished the app to SoC ?? |
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| 18:08:00 | <r0bby> sunbiz: 2 days ago. |
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| 18:08:38 | * r0bby sighs |
| 18:08:45 | <sunbiz> and how many apps have we got till now?? |
| 18:09:18 | <sunbiz> I dont see a lot of people coming in..in the irclogs ?? |
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| 18:09:33 | <sunbiz> isn't SoC getting lots of apps this year?? |
| 18:10:00 | <[OmegentooX]> Tons of people this year |
| 18:10:50 | <sunbiz> okk... I didn't see many people on the IRClogs asking a lot of questions |
| 18:11:01 | * r0bby is excited |
| 18:11:07 | <sunbiz> so...I thought therz a lull or something... |
| 18:12:33 | <sunbiz> !learn |
| 18:12:33 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: Invalid arguments for learn. |
| 18:13:00 | <sunbiz> !projects |
| 18:13:00 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org |
| 18:14:06 | <r0bby> http://apply2soc.openmrs.com |
| 18:14:23 | <sunbiz> !learn sunbiz as Just Another Developer |
| 18:14:23 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:14:29 | <sunbiz> !sunbiz |
| 18:14:29 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: "sunbiz" --- Just Another Developer |
| 18:14:29 | <r0bby> hrm |
| 18:18:03 | <sunbiz> !google hrm |
| 18:18:03 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: Error: "google" is not a valid command. |
| 18:19:14 | <r0bby> !commands |
| 18:19:14 | <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: action, add, alert, announce, any, apropos, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, clear, cmd, commands, config, cpu, cycle, default, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, dump, enable, export, flush, forget, (2 more messages) |
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| 18:22:12 | <sunbiz> !help add |
| 18:22:12 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: Error: That command exists in the Alias, Herald, and RSS plugins. Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with. |
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| 18:24:35 | <sunbiz> !OpenMRS |
| 18:24:35 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3738]: XForms Module: Organized the default XForm to XHTML stylesheet and added ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3738> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3737]: xformsorbeon module: basic xform creation working! <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3737> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3736]: xformsorbeon module: making progress on complete xform/xhtml file (26 more messages) |
| 18:25:11 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3743]: xformsorbeon module: cleanup of javadoc and namespace <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3743> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3742]: birtreport: Upgraded libraries to BIRT Runtime 2.2.2. No new features ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3742> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3741]: birtreport: Upgraded libraries to BIRT Runtime 2.2.1.1. No new features ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3741> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3740]: birtreport: Classpath change to complete migration to BIRT Report 2.2.1. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3740> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3739]: birtreport: Upgraded libraries to BIRT Runtime 2.2.1. No new features ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3739> |
| 18:25:55 | * sunbiz is bored... everyone's idle |
| 18:26:08 | <[OmegentooX]> I really need to find out what Jim Manico is up to |
| 18:26:34 | * sunbiz thinks he should go to sleep... Sun is about to rise |
| 18:26:40 | <sunbiz> ok...cya guys!! |
| 18:26:46 | <[OmegentooX]> ta |
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| 18:31:04 | * r0bby [OmegentooX]: eliminate him :) |
| 18:31:12 | <r0bby> I know a good hitman |
| 18:31:21 | <[OmegentooX]> What? |
| 18:32:05 | <r0bby> nothing :) |
| 18:32:07 | <r0bby> OH wow |
| 18:32:17 | <r0bby> GUtil addon for firefox is neat |
| 18:32:24 | <r0bby> [OmegentooX]: im goofy sometimes |
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| 18:49:25 | <HongJun> djazayeri: Hello, are you still online? |
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| 19:49:11 | <chase> hey guys |
| 19:49:18 | <chase> i have what's probably a really stupid question |
| 19:49:34 | <chase> but i don't really know jsps that well |
| 19:50:11 | <chase> in patientDashboardForm.jsp |
| 19:50:21 | <chase> it references $patient.dead |
| 19:50:35 | <chase> err ${patient.dead} |
| 19:50:48 | <chase> but i can't figure out where that variable is coming from |
| 19:52:00 | <chase> any help? |
| 19:54:31 | <r0bby> it refers to the property |
| 19:54:41 | <r0bby> in this case the Patient model |
| 19:55:18 | <chase> i guess my question is more, how is this variable in scope in this jsp |
| 19:56:40 | <r0bby> read up on JSP :) |
| 19:56:49 | <chase> i did |
| 19:57:49 | <r0bby> I'm not sure |
| 19:57:54 | <r0bby> I'm just learning JSP myself |
| 20:00:00 | <nribeka> docpaul (i think it was docpaul) said it's using velocity |
| 20:00:23 | <chase> velocity? |
| 20:00:25 | <nribeka> so probably you need to see velocity docs |
| 20:00:38 | <nribeka> velocity templating engine, i guess |
| 20:00:45 | <nribeka> velocity.apache.org |
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| 20:03:59 | <chase> thanks; i'll start on the docs |
| 20:04:22 | <nribeka> i'm not familiar with it. never use it haha :-) |
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| 20:10:06 | <chase> spring, hibernate, dojo, velocity.... i'm going to be uber-knowledged by the end of this job =) |
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| 20:11:28 | <nribeka> yeps ... openmrs use many lib that i never use before. |
| 20:11:33 | <nribeka> dwr |
| 20:12:20 | <r0bby> chase: yup |
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| 20:27:39 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3744]: xformsorbeon module: added default status display are to end of form for ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3744> |
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| 20:46:56 | <r0bby> docpaul!!!! |
| 20:50:17 | <r0bby> GAH |
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| 21:30:11 | <r0bby> why is burke not here when i have a breakthrough :| |
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| 22:00:46 | <r0bby> docpaul: I emailed you something |
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