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<r0bby> http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=14589
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<r0bby> docpaul: ^^
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<r0bby> the retarded jsp interprets the xml tags :|
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<r0bby> HongJun: not at all currently; applied for soc
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<r0bby> But i made my presence known here
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<HongJun> I am also want to join the soc
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<r0bby> which one?
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<r0bby> but Groovy integration.
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<napi> alloha
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<r0bby> I blame bwolfe for everything
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<r0bby> im guessing i gotta learn javascript for this project too :/
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<napi> the nastiest `language` ever created
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<napi> I use `s cause it shouldn't be called a language, more a curse
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<napi> or something similar
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<r0bby> you guys never know me!
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<r0bby> s/never/must not/
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<r0bby> later
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<bwolfe> r0bby: you can if you want
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<l3prador> bwolfe, can i ask you some questions about patient portrait support?
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<bwolfe> l3prador: sure, ask away
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<l3prador> the UI in the example picture for that is a future planned update?
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<l3prador> or just a potential mockup?
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<bwolfe> its a mockup
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<bwolfe> for future work that will be done by some core developers
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<l3prador> and so the work on the portrait project would be trying to integrate the portrait module with that new UI, or the current one, or both?
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<bwolfe> the current one
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<bwolfe> more than likely
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<l3prador> k thanks
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<r0bby> owwies
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<r0bby> freezing off a wart hurts :(
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<r0bby> its on my thumb :( and i touch type too :<
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<napi> :S
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<bwolfe> you touch type with your thumb?!
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<r0bby> my thumb does space bar :<
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<r0bby> perhaps i use a diff style of typing but still
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<r0bby> it's used
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<napi> my thumb does space bar too \o/
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<napi> we're practically brothers now
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<r0bby> napi: great; i think that's how it's supposed to be :P
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<r0bby> im *SO* tired
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<r0bby> time to code
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<r0bby> ugh need burke
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<napi> certainly can't be a bad method- used to do the odd touch typing speed test at school to win a quid here and there betting against others
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<napi> could hold a steady 135wpm.. not bad as far as i know
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<r0bby> I dont type fast nor do i type accurate at times
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<r0bby> I type ~30something words per min
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<r0bby> on my phone i type insanely quick
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<r0bby> using JUST my thumbs
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<napi> lol
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<bwolfe> r0bby: burke won't be on today. he's has clinic all day every Tuesday
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<napi> righty- off to go earn a bit of money teaching a silver surfer
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<napi> back in couple of hours
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<r0bby> bwolfe: :(
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<r0bby> bwolfe: I basically got everything downpat; i dont know the specifics of this project quite frankly
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<r0bby> nor do i know the goals
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<r0bby> These are just ideals
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<r0bby> er ideas
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<r0bby> bwolfe: are you a mentor on my project?
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<bwolfe> r0bby: the grails one?
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<r0bby> it's grails?
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<r0bby> I wanted to add groovy support in general
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<bwolfe> thats what I meant
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<r0bby> grails is a goal that I may or may not integrate
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<r0bby> depending on if it's possible
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<bwolfe> I'm not technically a mentor, no
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<r0bby> burke technically is my mentor
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<r0bby> as its his project
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<r0bby> so it's just burke?
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<r0bby> I have *NO* idea how this works
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<r0bby> :/
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<r0bby> but im excited to find out :)
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<docpaul> :)
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<docpaul> when you don't know how to do something, how do you typically figure it out?
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<r0bby> No
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<r0bby> im talking soc
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<r0bby> and this mentorship
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<r0bby> I'm going to need A LOT of help
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<docpaul> :)
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<docpaul> are you scared? :)
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<r0bby> like you wouldn't believe
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<docpaul> hehe
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<docpaul> you shouldnt be
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<docpaul> this is supposed to be fun
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<vindyanis> bwolfe: Hi Ben
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<r0bby> did you see my xml dump?
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<docpaul> dont worry, we'll help you succeed. :)
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<docpaul> nope, i'm in the middle of clinic myself
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<bwolfe> hey vindyanis
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<vindyanis> bwolfe: I am Mediacal student applied for GDoC
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<docpaul> so listen... research groovlets some
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<r0bby> I wrote a markupbuilder and dumped patient id, first and family name to xml using MarkupBuilder in burke's groovy module :)
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<vindyanis> bwolfe: sorry GSoC
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<docpaul> :)
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<docpaul> my guess is groovelets will help guide the way as to how one might write groovy that influences the webapp
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<r0bby> I need to get dead tree version of this book
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<r0bby> I grabbed it off of edonkey *duck* now the feds are gonna after me
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<docpaul> i think they'll let this one slide
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<docpaul> go read, become a jedi.. and have fun. :)
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<r0bby> :(
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<docpaul> i gotta get back to it... :)
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<r0bby> Have fun
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<vindyanis> bwolfe: r u busy
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<r0bby> napi: ya as nervous as I am :(
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<bwolfe> vindyanis: very nice
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<bwolfe> vindyanis: which project are you interested in?
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<r0bby> vindyanis: Med student?!?!?
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<r0bby> following docpaul and burke's path?!?!
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<vindyanis> Advanced Digital Image Viewing and Annotation
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<bwolfe> vindyanis: nah, just working...but my boss is here in this channel, so I better not slack off too much :-P
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<vindyanis> :)
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<vindyanis> bwolfe: I am in the computer lab in our university
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<bwolfe> any questions about the project?
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<vindyanis> so I have some experience in Java Applets and Java language
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<vindyanis> So I would like to work on this project
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<vindyanis> since it is on medical side I am really happy
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<vindyanis> Are you expecting some speciall skills??
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<bwolfe> just java, javascript, and html
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<bwolfe> this project wouldn't necessarily need medical expertise like you have
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<vindyanis> :)
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<bwolfe> docpaul: any project ideas that would benefit from medical expertise?
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<r0bby> vindyanis: i despise applets :<
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<r0bby> damn you doctors
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<vindyanis> r0bby: :)
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<r0bby> applets can behave in weird ways
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<vindyanis> bwolfe: so may I submit the proposal
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<bwolfe> vindyanis: you are welcome to submit it, but I don't think that is your best option
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<bwolfe> vindyanis: stay tuned to this channel this channel for some potential feedback/brainstorming with docpaul (and/or burke)
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<vindyanis> bwolfe: since this lab is usually close around 9pm
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<vindyanis> I have to go with in half an hour
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<bwolfe> vindyanis: I see. well, applications are open for another week
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<bwolfe> and the irclogs for chats 24x7 are available at http://dev.openmrs.org/irclogs
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<vindyanis> bwolfe: so I will wait untill the next week
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<bwolfe> so if burke or docpaul mention something that might be good for some medical knowledge you can see it there anytime
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<bwolfe> vindyanis: well, wait for about 3 days...if you wait until the very end you might get lost in the slew of submissions that happen right before the deadline
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<vindyanis> Ok, thanks
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<nribeka_> hi bwolfe
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<bwolfe> hey nribeka_
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<nribeka_> i think i'm done with my proposal
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<nribeka_> should i just submit it or explain it here as well?
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<vindyanis> But I would like to take this project even if mediacl knowledge is not necessary
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<sunbiz> hi guys!!
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<Keelhaul> hi
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<sunbiz> everyones applied to SoC ??
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<l3prador> bwolfe: can i ask you about the universal resource number?
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<nribeka_> hi sunbiz
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<sunbiz> robby u've applied to the groovy upgrade ??
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<nribeka_> sunbiz + robby: this is the first time i saw this channel as crowded as today :-)
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<sunbiz> hi... u applied to localization and auto-update ??
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<sunbiz> yea... the SoC started thats why i guess :)
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<Keelhaul> 3 weeks after i ordered my ram is finally here!
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<Keelhaul> so i can use my desktop again
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<sunbiz> 3 weeks.. where did u order it from?? RMA I guess??
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<Keelhaul> long story
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<Keelhaul> RMA'd my old ram first
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<nribeka_> sunbiz: yeah, but i'm still working on the proposal. need some feedback
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<Keelhaul> only to receive partial refund a month later
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<nribeka_> keel: wow ... 3 weeks
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<Keelhaul> then ordered new ram, which went out of stock for 2 weeks right after i ordered..
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<Keelhaul> and then with easter and all, another week passed
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<sunbiz> I can't make up my mind either... I'd love to do any kinda work on openMRS actually.. and Im confused which subproject to take!!
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<Keelhaul> lol
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<sunbiz> Keelhaul: ;=-)
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<nribeka_> which one do you take?
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<nribeka_> keel: are you from pih too?
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<Keelhaul> no heh
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<Keelhaul> i'm a student
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<Keelhaul> from germany
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<sunbiz> nribeka: I wish I had an emoticon to show my eyes rolling in confusion and tongue salivating on working :))
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<sunbiz> nribeka: which one u applying to ??
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<nribeka_> sunbiz: haha ...
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<nribeka_> sunbiz: auto update ... localization is just for to get a grip at the code actually
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<sunbiz> ok
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<nribeka_> the localization ticket is just finding hard coded string in the jsp file
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<nribeka_> so, it's too small for soc project haha ...
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<sunbiz> ok
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<nribeka_> i was taking this ticket to far and making it compicated yesterday. you can see the logs :-)
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<sunbiz> hey robby: how do u write those msgs ??
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<r0bby> what messages?
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<r0bby> sunbiz ?
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<r0bby> this:
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<r0bby> ?|
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<r0bby> it's '/me sighs'
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<r0bby> w/o quotes and anything prior to it
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* sunbiz also sighs
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<sunbiz> robby: got it... thanks
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* Keelhaul sets mode: +b *!sunbiz@202.88.176.222
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<Keelhaul> =O
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<Keelhaul> oops
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<Keelhaul> o great =/
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<bwolfe> nribeka_: if you want to email me your proposed I can take a look at it for you before you submit it
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09:41:38
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: you didn't kick him, don't worry
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<Keelhaul> i know
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<Keelhaul> but maybe he thought i banned him with my /me joke
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<Keelhaul> and got upset
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* r0bby reads his blogs to shit around
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<bwolfe> nah, sunbiz has been a pretty good character about joking around and whatnot
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09:42:26
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<r0bby> i SO do not wanna study groovy now that i know i *HAVE TO*
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<r0bby> wtf gives
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<Keelhaul> maybe, but he doesnt seem to know irc well and may not have known it wasnt a real +b
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<[1]pratikpattani> bwolfe : hey..this is regard to the conversation we had yest about Advanced Digital Image Viewing and Annotation..wanted to a detail or 2..
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09:42:42
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<r0bby> you know what would be neat
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09:42:58
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<r0bby> if at some pt openmrs allowed integration of the script interface
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<r0bby> s/interface/api
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<r0bby> thus allowing python,jruby,(scala?)
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<bwolfe> pratikpattani: sure
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09:43:33
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<nribeka_> bwolfe: ok i will send it to you now
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09:43:37
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<bwolfe> r0bby: that would be neat...but again, how would that work?
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<nribeka_> to bwolfe[at]openmrs[dot]org right?
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<bwolfe> ben[at]
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<[1]pratikpattani> bwolfe : y is emphazied to work on java applets..i think we can do the same kinda work with ajax ...
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<r0bby> bwolfe: not sure
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<nribeka_> ah ic. ok
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09:44:15
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<r0bby> right now let's focus on one thing at a time
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09:44:23
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<r0bby> just throwing the idea out there
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<bwolfe> pratikpattani: openmrs is a webapp now...but the api could be used for a standalone java thick client. if the code was an applet some code could be shared
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09:45:08
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<bwolfe> pratikpattani: but yes, there are a lot of javascript libraries taht would do it potentially
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<bwolfe> pratikpattani: do you have any experience with any?
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<bwolfe> brb
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<[1]pratikpattani> bwolfe.. : yah i actually worked with dojo toolkit basically for a photo gallery with such features like..zoomin..magnification..
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<napi> god dammit, got a splinter in my toe at that old ladies house
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<r0bby> bwolfe++
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<[1]pratikpattani> bwolfe : and i hve done work with ajax codin(without using toolkit) for certain other projects..though they were of college level.but yah i am exposed to it..
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<r0bby> !karma bwolfe
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: Karma for "bwolfe" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
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<r0bby> bwolfe: let me see if the code i wrote using burke's plugin is still in the pastebin
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<r0bby> http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=14589
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1ivh> (at eugeneciurana.com)
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<r0bby> :>
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<bmckown> he stepped away for a minute
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<r0bby> likey :)
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09:49:13
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<r0bby> comment is the output.
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09:49:33
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<r0bby> I did that b/c either the browser or the container eats up the XML
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09:50:06
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<Keelhaul> hey bmckown
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<Keelhaul> http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3689/openmrs/branches/api_refactoring/src/api/org/openmrs/api/db/EncounterDAO.java
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09:50:11
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1j4u> (at dev.openmrs.org)
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<Keelhaul> what was that for
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09:50:26
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<bmckown> what was what for Keelhaul?
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09:50:35
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<Keelhaul> removing all the methods
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09:50:38
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<Keelhaul> is locations getting its own dao?
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09:50:46
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<bmckown> Ah yes.
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<Keelhaul> ah ok
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<bmckown> LocationService etc.
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09:51:06
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<bmckown> That is in the api refactoring branch
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<bmckown> not yet in trunk.
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<Keelhaul> yea i know
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<bmckown> ok
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09:52:59
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<r0bby> to read or lay down
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* r0bby goes to make coffee
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<bmckown> The methods will remain in EncounterService as deprecated but will call the LocationService.
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<Keelhaul> oh
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<r0bby> =)
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09:53:51
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<Keelhaul> i should learn to use that AOP stuff maybe heh
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09:53:56
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<r0bby> I should have come onboard a year ago
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09:54:05
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<r0bby> but i was lazy
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09:54:22
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<r0bby> I saw how much work it'd be and said screw it
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09:54:36
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<r0bby> now i have skills that i can contribute so i figure why not
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<r0bby> AOP is pretty nice =)
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<napi> r0bby, to answer your much earlier question-i'm not nervous about the project.. I'm shit scared about the application lol
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<r0bby> I'm scared shitless about letting paul and burke down :<
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<r0bby> that's all
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09:56:18
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<napi> Got all summer to be nervous about the project if I get in- not point worrying about it now lol
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09:56:53
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<r0bby> I get to go to DC worrying about OpenMRS
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09:57:09
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<r0bby> but having my laptop working on OpenMRS during downtime
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<r0bby> weeeeeeeeeeee
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09:58:39
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<bwolfe> pratikpattani: we haven't really decided whether it will be a full blown applet or just some javascript stuff
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<bwolfe> pratikpattani: you are welcome to apply for it with the expectation it will be javascript...if you are more familiar with it that way
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09:59:34
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<pratikpattani> bwolfe : i feel tht the same features can b achieved through ajax implementation but is there somethin tht u prefer applets for certain reasons..
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<nribeka_> bwolfe: i sent the proposal. need feedback and probably some suggestion on how to implement it :-)
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<bwolfe> nribeka_: you don't think cargo will work now?
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<docpaul> guys, i have a few minutes... anyone need any questions answered. :)
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<docpaul> i see a bunch of new nicks here... welcome to all of you! :)
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<nribeka_> cargo is working, but it can only work on container that on the same jvm
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10:02:14
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<nribeka_> so cargo need to do the start as well
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<docpaul> hello bhanu, ngref, pratikpattani, and anyone else I haven
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<docpaul> t spoken with
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<bwolfe> docpaul: see my conv with vind earlier (he's gone now)
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<docpaul> ok
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<bhanu> hello docpaul
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<nribeka_> so cargo can only stop container that they start (i point this out in my proposal)
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<l3prador> is OpenMRS under any license? (GPL, BSD, etc)
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* r0bby sighs
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<docpaul> ben: any sense of his software development experience?
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<bwolfe> l3prador: MPL
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* napi comforts r0bby
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<pratikpattani> docpaul : hi...been interacting with bwolfe about Advanced Digital Image Viewing and Annotation...
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<docpaul> we need jedis... :)
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<bwolfe> docpaul: I don't know, we didn't get into that
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<r0bby> docpaul: quick question: do you plan at any point to sell openmrs?
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<docpaul> well, that'd probably be a good starting point with him
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<docpaul> r00by: over my dead body
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<nribeka_> robby: haha ...
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* r0bby gets out his shotgun
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<docpaul> they'll have to kick me out first. :)
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<r0bby> let's test that theory
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10:05:09
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<docpaul> the value of openmrs is not in the software... it's in the community and the standards that we have the potential to create
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<r0bby> wait... i need your expertise
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<r0bby> yeh
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<r0bby> good pt
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<docpaul> making it proprietary would wreck that
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<r0bby> docpaul: perhaps you could sell *SUPPORT*
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<docpaul> r0bby: some already are
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<r0bby> who is?
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<pratikpattani> docpaul : but the problem i am not much into java..worked with ajax ..c++..i am very much interested to work with it..my dad is in med field and i understand the priority of this project..
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<docpaul> cell life, webreach
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<docpaul> pratik: that's honest of you... do you have experience with jsp?
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<Glen> most clinical software has no inherent value, in my opinion
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<docpaul> glen: amen, brother
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<pratikpattani> docpaul : ya...i hve worked with jsp....more of php...
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<r0bby> docpaul: i have head first servlets/jsp
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<r0bby> i grabbed it
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<docpaul> pratik: if you're going down the pathway of building a rich image annotator inline with the webbrowser (which I think is a good one, actually), then you need to know jsp bigtime
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<r0bby> too much crap; i need the information and nothing more it's great if you're completely clueless; but i know lil bits and pieces
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<r0bby> docpaul: i think my job will be largely groovy and gsp
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<r0bby> GSP will overlap w/ jsp
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<docpaul> robby: i'm sure it will be
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<pratikpattani> docpaul : ya..i guess so...but i am very confident tht all the requirements can be fullfilled with ajax implementation..
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<r0bby> if we can somehow isolate the grails runtime
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<docpaul> pratik: as am i
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<r0bby> it'd be amazing
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<docpaul> r0bby: agreed!
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* r0bby emails grails lead to see if it's possible (can't spell his name for my life)
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<pratikpattani> docpaul : i hve worked a lot on ajax codin..ajax toolkits..and would like to wok on this project with ajax..
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<docpaul> it'd be revolutionary for this project... imagine the lower barriers to entry of having an enterprise worthy api and abstraction layer, but also having the ability for end users to write groovy scripts instead of java to tweak implementation specific features
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<r0bby> yeh :)
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<docpaul> one of the things we need to focus on is making it ridiculously simple for implementers to make openmrs it's "bitch"
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<r0bby> docpaul: in case you didn't see
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<r0bby> http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=14589
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1ivh> (at eugeneciurana.com)
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<r0bby> can export as XML w/ ease.
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<docpaul> there's nothing like being able to sit behind a text editor and bang out a perl script to make a quick feature work...
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<r0bby> i refuse to touch perl.
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<docpaul> i'd love to see something similar for openmrs that allows a user to take advantage of our api and model
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10:11:19
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<docpaul> groovy is the same idea
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<r0bby> you'll pushing it w/ JSP
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<pratikpattani> docpaul : i been really thinkin about Advanced Digital Image Viewing and Annotation..but wht is tht most imp part tht is to be worked on ...i just am too much interested in this project..and would really love to work wid it..even if i am rejected with GSOC..
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* nribeka_ think he need to learn groovy
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<r0bby> docpaul: i'll ask the grails lead directly rather than going through the list
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<r0bby> nribeka_: nah not yet
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<r0bby> stay away from my soc project
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<Glen> docpaul: Re: "Bitch" I thought that was why openMRS didn't do much UI devlepment. Meaning that if an organization (or domain) was serious about using the product that they'd have to invest resources to customize the UI to their needs.
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<nribeka_> robby: haha ...
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<docpaul> pratikpattani: that's mighty kind of you to say... i feel the same way about it. :)
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* r0bby will use mafia style if necessary!
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<docpaul> glen: it is, but i'd like to make it simpler for end implementers to do this
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<docpaul> we need to give them the tools
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* r0bby needs to figure out how to email him directly :/
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<docpaul> and there are factions within the community very set on making the UI tighter...
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<docpaul> for example:
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<docpaul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Image:UI_mockup_Alt_color_scheme.jpg
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1j5H> (at openmrs.org)
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<docpaul> if someone wants to work on something like this as our "out of the box" ui, i'm not going to complain. :)
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<r0bby> docpaul: one thing i wanna warn you: is I despise UI design
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<napi> aaaaah I love ui design!
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<Glen> my experience is that it will be very difficult to do a UI really well and keep the product domain-agnostic
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<r0bby> I like working w/ backends; but i'm willing to bend for the UI integration parts
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<napi> lol
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<r0bby> as it's part of the job
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<docpaul> r0bby: no worries, there is room at the trough for all kinds of oinks. :)
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<docpaul> glen: totally agreed.
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<docpaul> that's why our focus should be on creating the framework to make something like that image above possible
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<docpaul> that's my job
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<r0bby> i'll do it :)
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Keelhaul> the original proposed color scheme was awful
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<docpaul> we *definitely* want to remain domain-agnostic
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<bwolfe> nribeka_: looks pretty complete. just make sure you run through and add answers for the 10 or so extra questions we have
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10:16:10
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<docpaul> keel: haha.. i agree
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<docpaul> that was my first comment. :)
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<nribeka_> bwolfe:
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<nribeka_> bwolfe: ok
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<bwolfe> nribeka_: my wife has family in Pittsburgh. we'll have to sit down and have some coffee next time we're over there :-)
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<Glen> docpaul perhaps a way to write new UI "contexts" would be appropriate, within the overall UI framework ...
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<napi> domain-agnostic = ?
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<nribeka_> bwolfe: haha sure ... great. in which are of pittsburgh?
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<docpaul> napi: allow someone to use it as a HIV system vs. a primary care system
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10:17:26
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<docpaul> there's no such thing as a HIV patient that has no other medical problems
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10:17:46
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<docpaul> health care doesn't know a single disease, or domain... good systems allow the health care system to evolve in ways it needs to evolve into
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<pratikpattani> brb...
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10:18:21
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<bwolfe> nribeka_: mt lebanon
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<docpaul> that's why it's so important to build a more abstract notion of health care, and enable people to easily dive into a specific implementation to fit their needs
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<nribeka_> bwolfe: ahh great place. my advisor live in mt lebanon.
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<Glen> docpaul: my turn to say amen .... the field is always expanding. we can never know everything. a product has to be able to capture future knowledge
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10:19:11
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<nribeka_> bwolfe: i'll update the proposal and send it to you again and then submit it
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10:19:47
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<r0bby> docpaul: whatever needs to be done, i'll do it
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10:19:57
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<r0bby> right now im gonna work on actually learning what i need to learn
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10:20:05
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<docpaul> r0bby: add another to the coalition of the willing. :)
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10:20:08
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<r0bby> but mostly i know jsp and can work from example; i learned regex!
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<r0bby> +that way
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10:20:18
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* napi applauds
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10:20:38
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* r0bby smacks napi
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* nribeka_ applauds too
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<r0bby> sarcasm will not be accepted !
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10:20:49
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* napi calls the hitman
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* r0bby calls a hitman too
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<docpaul> what continues to be mind boggling to me is the ground swell of support from people that don't necessarily work in the health care field
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* napi has such a better hitman than r0bby
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10:21:14
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<docpaul> the rest of the health it community could learn something extremely valuable from this
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10:21:17
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* r0bby calls a mafia hitman
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<r0bby> I'll prolly learn a bit about the healthcare stuff too :)
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10:21:56
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* nribeka_ try to write regex for the localization last night but no good. he's going to manual way finally
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10:22:07
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<docpaul> open source communities can really tap that desire to be involved... pretty cool to see it evolving like it is. :)
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10:23:15
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<docpaul> i mean, we have 24 people on an irc channel talking about open source medical record systems... wouldn't have guessed it would have evolved this way
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<r0bby> docpaul: I'm bullshitting
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<napi> :)
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10:24:20
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<napi> I wonder what the feasability would be for greating a "module creation" wizard ¬.¬
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<docpaul> robby: :) you have to remember that this started with much humbler aspirations.
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10:24:59
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<docpaul> napi: you'd have to use the eclipse framework for this.... we have a very good mentor lined up for this
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10:25:03
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<Glen> I heard several healthcare CIOs discredit open source in a major way. There is a paradigm shift happening but the generation to do it is just starting to hit the organizations now.
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10:25:24
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<r0bby> Glen: duh
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<docpaul> glen: let them.... this represents an opportunity for people like us. :)
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10:25:28
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<r0bby> they wanna profit
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10:25:45
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<r0bby> Glen: quite frankly, they can sit in their cozy mansions
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10:25:50
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<r0bby> while we learn a fuckton
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<r0bby> :)
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<napi> docpaul oh? /me explores the site
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10:26:13
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<docpaul> do a google for "creating an eclipse plugin"
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<napi> achievable project for gsoc?
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10:26:37
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<r0bby> docpaul: do you think i should put the grails stuff under the groovy plugin or seperate?
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<r0bby> or is that a question burke would need to answer?
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<docpaul> oh definitely... phillipe thought that this was the easy part of that proposal
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<docpaul> robby: yeah, ask burke
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<docpaul> i dont know how his module is built up
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<docpaul> i gotta jet guys
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<atomicturtle> have fun storming the castle
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<r0bby> Have a ball!
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<r0bby> I hate kids *duck*
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<napi> hmm better look at that- quite a few other people interested in the portrait one- would be good to get more range of applications
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<r0bby> yeh
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<r0bby> OpenMRS only gets a set number of slots
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10:28:14
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<r0bby> and I better get one
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<docpaul> FWIW... last year we had on average 15-20 applications for each slot
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* r0bby slips docpaul a $20
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<r0bby> or else
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<napi> FWIW = ?
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<nribeka_> robby: hahaha ...
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<docpaul> so, just keep this in mind... (for what it's worth)
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<r0bby> I WANT IT
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* r0bby cries
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<nribeka_> me too
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<docpaul> we'll likely have more slots this year, but we will need to make sure there's enough mentorship to handle the development load
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<r0bby> burke can handle me... i think
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<docpaul> seeya guys. :)
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<napi> laters
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<bwolfe> napi: FWIW = for what its worth
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<docpaul> r0bby: i don't know if you can be handled... hehe
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<r0bby> ....
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<r0bby> I'm not THAT bad :)
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<r0bby> just hyperactive
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<docpaul> r0bby: i personally enjoy your enthusiasm
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<nribeka_> robby: haha i can see that
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<docpaul> seeya later. :)
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<docpaul> thanks for stopping by glen. :)
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<nribeka_> cya docpaul
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<bwolfe> his leave messages crack me up
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<r0bby> "I have a question regarding the runtime; can it be isolated and run outside; such as in an existing webapp? ie run gsps along side jsps and such? Pulling out all the spring and hibernate aspects utilizing the existing webapps spring and hibernate deps? "
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<r0bby> does that sound accurate?
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<bwolfe> r0bby: not sure what you're asking
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<r0bby> me either :/
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<bwolfe> ha
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<napi> lol
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<r0bby> i just wanna figure out how to run grails along side our web app
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<l3prador> bwolfe: do you expect the detailed description of how we intend to accomplish this project to be like a detailed paragraph by paragraph description or more like a bulleted list?
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<bwolfe> l3prador: a bulleted list would be better
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<l3prador> like an outline?
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<r0bby> wow..
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<r0bby> that was the lamest post i ever made..
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<r0bby> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com/2008/03/graeme-need-you-to-email-me-have.html
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1j5x> (at robbyoconnor.blogspot.com)
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<bwolfe> not necessarily an outline...but people that are reviewing applications won't read through tons of paragraphs :-)
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<r0bby> ...
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<l3prador> ok, thanks
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<bwolfe> r0bby: haha 100% chance that you won't get an email from him
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<nribeka_> robby: hahaha ...
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* nribeka_ laugh after reading robby's blog
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<r0bby> HOPEFULLY it didnt get aggregated
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* r0bby sighs
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<r0bby> i deleted it
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<r0bby> I JUST deleted it
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<r0bby> yes
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<r0bby> no aggregators picked it up !
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<r0bby> :)
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<r0bby> :D
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<r0bby> :DDDD
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<r0bby> thank god
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<bwolfe> even if you had his email there is a slim chance you'd get a reply
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<bwolfe> I'd suggest asking on a grails or groovy mailing list...or finding an irc room to ask in
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<r0bby> or I wanna do is pull the grails bit our and run it along side the openmrs webapp
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<r0bby> namely strip the spring/hibernate crap
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<r0bby> if that makes sense
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<r0bby> which is prolly gonna be a big part of soc
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<r0bby> I hate being the lowly intern :<
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<napi> Welcome to life. Enjoy your stay
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<bwolfe> r0bby: yeah, I'd guess there is an easy way...hopefully
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<nribeka_> off to campuss now ...
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<nribeka_> see you guys later
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* r0bby grabbing the apress grails book/groovy in action from amazon
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<r0bby> it's SO much easier to have it where i can flip through
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<napi> duel-screen baby :)
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<r0bby> napi: yeh
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<r0bby> http://apress.com/book/view/1590599950
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<r0bby> first edition too for now
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<r0bby> not sure when it will publish and i need it before the start
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<r0bby> UGH
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* r0bby sighs
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<r0bby> i shouldnt need a book on aop right?
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<bwolfe> r0bby: nah
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<bwolfe> just do some light reading online
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<bwolfe> there is a /small/ writeup I did with it pertaining to modules
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<r0bby> okay DWR either
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<bwolfe> search the wiki for AOP
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<bwolfe> or openmrs aop
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<r0bby> yeh i'll just read an online tutorial and should be okay
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<r0bby> i *DO* need grails/groovy
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<r0bby> they give nice tips :)
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<r0bby> Grails in action is *AWESOME*
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<r0bby> er Groovy*
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<r0bby> Should I even bother?
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<r0bby> :/
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<r0bby> as pathetic as this sounds; i'll just pay my parents back
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<r0bby> it'd be cool if openmrs/google paid for whatever books we needed
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<bwolfe> r0bby: they do...they give you $4500 to buy books :-p
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<l3prador> bye everyone, have a great day
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<bwolfe> cya l3prador
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<r0bby> :x
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<sunbiz> Keelhaul: u didnt kick me ==>
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* r0bby sighs
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<sunbiz> Keelhaul: I just saw that in the logs :))
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<r0bby> I have this SERIOUS problem w/ programming books :(
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<r0bby> http://www.amazon.com/Groovy-Recipes-Greasing-Pragmatic-Programmers/dp/0978739299/ref=pd_rhf_f_t_cs_1
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1j6u> (at www.amazon.com)
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<r0bby> i want that :<
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<r0bby> holy crap
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<r0bby> 110.64
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<r0bby> :<
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<sunbiz> How do we send a PM ??
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<bwolfe> r0bby--
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<bwolfe> r0bby: you really need to start clarifying your exclamations
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<bwolfe> hehe
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<bwolfe> sunbiz: /msg <nick> message
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<r0bby> ?!
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<r0bby> bwolfe: huh
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<r0bby> bwolfe: meaning I hoard them!
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<r0bby> I want to be the best at everything :X
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<sunbiz> It tells me this: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register!
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<r0bby> and tend to idolize people who seem to be very competent programmers
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<r0bby> sunbiz: register with nickserv
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<napi> sunbiz; /msg nickserv register
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<r0bby> it's /ns register password i think
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<r0bby> exlcude i think of course.
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<r0bby> exclude*
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<r0bby> bwolfe: BETTER?
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<r0bby> er better
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<bwolfe> r0bby: I was referring to your seemingly random "holy crap. 110.64"
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<bwolfe> no one knows what crap is holy
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<bwolfe> or what costs $110
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<napi> lol
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<napi> There's a lot of varieties of crap that are holy
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<sunbiz> Im still stuck at PM !! :)
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<bwolfe> so you say "holy crap, my amazon shopping cart is 110. how do these books cost so much?!"
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<bwolfe> !google how does irc work
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<OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "google" is not a valid command.
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<bwolfe> oh man, we need that enabled on the bot
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<napi> sunbiz; /msg nickserv help register
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<bwolfe> the old bot would do a google search and return the first result :-)
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<r0bby> heh :)
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<r0bby> 23.07; 26.39; 29.69; 31.49.
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<r0bby> bwolfe: ^^
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<bwolfe> um, I'm assuming those are the costs of your books?
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<sunbiz> hey... 8-) I just managed to get a PM
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<napi> :)
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* sunbiz I just changed the world
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<bwolfe> heh...so close sunbiz
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* sunbiz changed the world
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<r0bby> yes bwolfe
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<r0bby> groovy in action is cheaper at amazon but their shipping blows
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<sunbiz> robby: and I thought robby was a friendly, good guy :(
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<r0bby> sunbiz: no i just dont like privmsgs
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<r0bby> talk here
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11:46:30
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<r0bby> basically i use a text-based irc client
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<r0bby> and I have over 100 windows open; finding yours is a crapshoot
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<bwolfe> aren't all irc clients text based? :-p
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<r0bby> actually i have over 300.
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<r0bby> mine is 100% text-based :P
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<r0bby> irssi++
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<r0bby> sunbiz: if you have something to say that you don't want the channel to hear; just ask me and 9 times out of 10 i'll say sure
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<r0bby> but i can't even see that you pm'd me til i go and check
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<sunbiz> yea.. I was just kidding mate!!
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<r0bby> okies
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<bwolfe> r0bby: and why have you not upgraded to a gui irc client...or at least one with colors to tell you when you've been talked about or talked to !?
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<r0bby> bwolfe: i used to use one; but i like this =)
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<r0bby> screen+irssi == god
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<r0bby> funny thing
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<r0bby> I use aliases to get around to diff channels
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<r0bby> i have called jerk and this is jo
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<r0bby> so it sounds uhm wrong if i put them together accidentally
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<r0bby> bwolfe: would you recommend any good JSP books?
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<r0bby> nevermind -- i'll learn by example in that respect :)
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<bwolfe> I'm don't learn via books, so not really
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<r0bby> heh
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<bmckown> r0bby: If it's for OpenMRS, I would recommend the JavaScript Bible.
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<bwolfe> jsp != javascript bmckown :-p
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<r0bby> JSP == Java Server Pages :P
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<r0bby> Javascript i could prolly learn w/ my eyes closed :P
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<bmckown> And do we stuff a bunch of <% code %> in our java server pages? No.
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<r0bby> I refuse to waste money on a book for it...but then again i *DO* own perl for dummies
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<r0bby> scriptlets--
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<bmckown> We use lot's of JavaScript.
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<r0bby> and I wish you didn't.
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<bwolfe> we don't use /that/ much...and its not required
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<r0bby> I'll just use my ebook version; i'm onlu getting dead tree of things i'll need to know/use on a regular basis
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<bwolfe> its only for patient/concept lookups
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<bwolfe> we use about as much javascript as any normal webapp
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<bwolfe> I'd bet a lot of apps use a lot more than we do
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<r0bby> only question is: do i wanna get as much as im getting :/
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<bwolfe> and why the comment "And do we stuff a bunch of <% code %> in our java server pages? No." ?
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<r0bby> ew.
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<r0bby> that looks like crap by the way (scriptlets)
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<bwolfe> scriptlets??
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<bmckown> Why would it be necessary to purchase a book on JSP for OpenMRS? I guess what I was getting at is that I would find a JavaScript Book more useful. And I know that jsp != javascript.
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<bwolfe> hehe
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<bwolfe> right, but all of the ${...} and <openmrs:tagtag> is jsp stuff
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<bwolfe> we use that instead of baked in java with <% ... %> .
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<bwolfe> ...we don't replace the lack of <%...%> with javascript...
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<r0bby> bmckown: <% // this is a scriptlet %>
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<r0bby> it's embedded java code in your JSP files.
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<bwolfe> ah, right
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<r0bby> ideally all java code should be in beans
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<bmckown> which we recommend not to use in OpenMRS.
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<bwolfe> bmckown was saying we don't do that
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<r0bby> or servlets
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<r0bby> because your container will convert your JSP to a servlet
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<r0bby> be it jetty, tomcat or whatever
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<bwolfe> r0bby: and we don't recommend servlets...we use the MVC model. so all of your java will be in your controller
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<r0bby> so yeh -- scriptlets still shouldn't happen (ideally)
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<r0bby> but sometimes it may not be possible
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<r0bby> IF you're trying for pure MVC
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<r0bby> bwolfe: another option is a custom taglib
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<r0bby> that will handle the JS for you
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<r0bby> (not to sound cocky or arrogant
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<r0bby> if i come off as that, it's not my intent
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<r0bby> just relaying what i've learned in my time in ##java
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<bwolfe> js in a custom taglib?? do you mean java in a custom taglib?
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<bwolfe> we have plenty of taglibs..and I mentioned at 14:04
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<r0bby> erm yeh
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<bwolfe> nice plug for openmrs r0bby
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<r0bby> bwolfe: that's burke
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<r0bby> I just wrote a groovy script do that
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<r0bby> but ultimately; i'd like to give the ability to give people an XML File and then load it into the db from that XML file
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<r0bby> with groovy it's cake
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<bmckown> Hi, [OmegentooX] !
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<[OmegentooX]> Heya. Lots of people here now
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<bwolfe> r0bby: whats burke?
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<bmckown> Yes.
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<bwolfe> [OmegentooX]: yeah, gsoc will do that :-p
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<r0bby> burke wrote the module
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<r0bby> what were you gonna say? i thought you were referring to the example i posted..
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<bwolfe> r0bby: um, are you referencing a conversation I'm missing?
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<r0bby> you said "nice plug for openmrs r0bby"
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<r0bby> i didnt know what you were referencing
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<r0bby> sorry; what were you gonna say?
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<bwolfe> r0bby: I was referring to your comment in gsoc right before that
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<r0bby> heh :)
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<r0bby> OH :)
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<r0bby> two MDs who start an OSS project to improve the systems in place in the developing world gets a definite thumbs up from me
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<r0bby> oh damn bmckown is in ##Java
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<bmckown> and the javabot is a little rude, too.
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<bmckown> :-)
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<r0bby> bmckown: isn't rude
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<r0bby> the people who added the factoids are :P
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<r0bby> parts of it anyways
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<bmckown> Ah. You should add some cool stuff to your OpenMRSBot.
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<r0bby> I didn't feel like tracing codepaths
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<r0bby> it's not mine :P
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<bmckown> 'our' OpenMRSBot
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<bmckown> typo
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<r0bby> it's supybot
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<bmckown> you programmed the javabot?
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<r0bby> additionally the 'world' sees logging; changelogs (added factoids,deleted, changed karma), and karma rankings
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<r0bby> bmckown: no i worked a bit on it
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<bmckown> okay.
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<r0bby> I added a facility to check metadata of a factoid (who added it, when, literal value)
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<bmckown> cool.
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<r0bby> That was a feature request and i knew it'd be trivial
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<r0bby> I've been meaning to learn python
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<r0bby> http://javachannel.net/wiki/pmwiki.php/FAQ/Javabot
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1j8d> (at javachannel.net)
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<r0bby> http://javachannel.net/wiki/pmwiki.php/FAQ/RunningJavabot
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<bmckown> thx. I bookmarked it.
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<bmckown> okay.
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<r0bby> okay that is outragous
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<r0bby> amazon is charging outtrageous shipping ($15+)
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<r0bby> an d they *STILL* beat barnes and noble
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3712]: Changed part of AdministrationService to the new refactored layout in ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3712> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3711]: Initial import. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3711> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3710]: Initial import. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3710>
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<bmckown> Hi, djazayeri
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<djazayeri> hi bmckown
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<djazayeri> hey bmckown: James has reported a bug about not being able to delete relationships
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<bmckown> djazayeri: Did you look at http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/656 ? Have any comments?
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<bmckown> Yes I saw James' e-mail.
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<djazayeri> I'd like to debug it, but it seems data-dependant.
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<djazayeri> Can you look at the log on the demo server and see if there's an error being reported?
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<bmckown> I tried it on my local OpenMRS and had the same results as you.
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<bmckown> I can delete them fine.
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<bmckown> Yes. Let me do that.
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<bwolfe> *on=no
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<bmckown> bwolfe is late
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<bmckown> hehe
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<bwolfe> late on what?
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<bmckown> already looked at googledoc for server admin
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<bwolfe> well done
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<djazayeri> bmckown: I just commented on the ticket
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<djazayeri> Anyway, bwolfe & bmckown, I just ran through James's test 10 minutes ago and it definitely didn't work right.
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<bmckown> hmm. okay. thanks for the ticket comment, too.
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<bmckown> djazayeri: I see what you mean. You have patient A and patient B
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<bmckown> You make patient B a sibling of patient A
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<bmckown> you then remove the relationship from A -> B
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<bmckown> but the relationship still exists under patient B (B - A)
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<bmckown> (B -> A) i mean
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<djazayeri> bmckown: I don't think that's what's going on.
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<bmckown> that's what happened to me. I could actually delete the relationship from patient A but it still shows up under patient B
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<bmckown> back to log files...
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<djazayeri> bmckown: I deleted the relationship from patient A, then I refreshed the page for patient A and it was back.
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<djazayeri> so I think it was never deleted from anywhere in the first place.
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<bmckown> okay let me try that again. hmm.
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<djazayeri> Also, there's only one row in the database for the relationship, so it can't really be deleted from one but not the other.
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<bwolfe> bmckown: no! wrong!
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<bwolfe> bmckown: oh sorry, that was just a gut reaction. ;-)
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<bmckown> yet
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<bwolfe> bmckown: are we storing two rows? I thought it was just one row that was referenced both ways
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<bmckown> I actually don't know.
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<bmckown> Will have to check. But no errors in log files regarding this.
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<bmckown> bwolfe: the obs_group webapp and the demo webapp are not sharing the same database are they?
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<bmckown> I guess I could just check.
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<bwolfe> no
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<bmckown> djazayeri: my point was with example patient_id=364 and patient_id=3646
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<djazayeri> bwolfe bmckown , you could just read my messages, that would answer it.
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<djazayeri> :)
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<bmckown> ooooooh.
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<chase> is there any way/module to enter an encounter without using infopath?
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<bwolfe> chase: through the webapp
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<bwolfe> chase: some people have written custom modules to do data entry through jsp forms
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<bwolfe> jim manico is working on an xforms module to do it
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<bwolfe> [OmegentooX] wrote half of a module to do data entry using openoffice
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<chase> thanks for the help.. i see the xforms module in the repository. i will try it out
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<bwolfe> cya guys
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<bmckown> djazayeri: Okay. The relationship_id=8 had patient_a=364 and patient_b=3646 and voided=1 and voided_by=1 and date_voided=NULL
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<djazayeri> odd.
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<bmckown> I switched patient_a and patient_b
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<bmckown> and the relationship does not show up for patient_b but cannot be deleted from patient_a
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<djazayeri> interesting
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<bmckown> no tickets for this.... I was going to take it.
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<bmckown> Well. I'll fix it since I was probably the last one to work on anything related to relationships.
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<djazayeri> ok, cool.
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<djazayeri> in PortletController I see this: relationships.addAll(Context.getPersonService().getRelationships(p, false));
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<djazayeri> where the false is "includeVoided"
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<djazayeri> so I'm suprised that that's showing up
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<bmckown> djazayeri: will work on this in a bit. have to go for now.
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<djazayeri> 'k, ciao
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<bwolfe> hey there Sil
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<bwolfe> any questions about gsoc I can answer for you?
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<Sil> Thanks a lot!, I'm actually interested in porting OpenInkpot for the Sony reader.
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<bwolfe> Sil: hmm
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<bwolfe> Sil: are you sure you have the right channel>
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<bwolfe> we're writing a medical record system for developing countries
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<Sil> I'm really embarassed right now....I'm so sorry....
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<Sil> The reason I'm in this channel is because the other day I heard DocPaul talking about your company int he general gsoc channel. He was really passionate about it and I looked at what you do and tought it was pretty amazing and wanted to learn a little bit more.
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<bwolfe> :-)
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<bwolfe> Sil: well what more can I tell you ?
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<bwolfe> our project is much more exciting than an openinkpot port :-)
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<Sil> For sure, It also interests me since right now I'm doing some data mining work for a medical company involving pacemakers, but it sad to see that not all the people have the resources to afford them.
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<r0bby> burke -- sorry for the memos
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<r0bby> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com/2008/03/summer-of-code-2008-what-will-you-be.html
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jBz> (at robbyoconnor.blogspot.com)
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<r0bby> aggregated to javablogs.com
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<nribeka> robby: hahahaha ... another post :)
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<nribeka> bwolfe: will send updated app proposal tomorrow
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<r0bby> nribeka: yeh this is aggregated
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<nribeka> seems the crowd is cooling down now ... tomorrow a lot more will come i think :-P
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<r0bby> nribeka: expect an influx
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<r0bby> that post will aggregate to >7000 users.
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<docpaul> hi. :)
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<[OmegentooX]> Heya
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<docpaul> heya matt. :)
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<[OmegentooX]> Nice to see OpenMRS in the game again this year
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<docpaul> yep...
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<docpaul> are you doing the SOC thing this year?
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<[OmegentooX]> I'm not sure yet =/
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<docpaul> gotcha. :)
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<l3prador> can i ask a couple of questions about the app for SOC
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<docpaul> sure
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<l3prador> for the abstract part
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<l3prador> should we write up our own version of that
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<docpaul> yes
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<docpaul> yes
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<l3prador> or should it basically be the same as what is on your project page
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<docpaul> no, it should be your plan of how you'd complete the project
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<docpaul> and it'd tell us why you're the right person for the job
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<r0bby> me ewant me want
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<r0bby> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009108
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jCb> (at www.newegg.com)
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<l3prador> i mean, there's two sections on the google application
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<l3prador> the Abstract is posted on Google's website, and isn't supposed to have personal info, 2500 chars
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<l3prador> the Detailed Description is 7500 chars, and is only visible to mentors
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<r0bby> include your SSN :)
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<docpaul> maybe i dont understand what apps are supposed to be like this year then
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<r0bby> docpaul: http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com/2008/03/summer-of-code-2008-what-will-you-be.html
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jBz> (at robbyoconnor.blogspot.com)
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<r0bby> figured id post again
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<r0bby> since applications for students opened :)
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<docpaul> thanks robby
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<l3prador> the doc Google put up on the application seemed to suggest that the abstract was basically just a short description of the project
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<l3prador> gave this as an example: http://code.google.com/soc/2006/google/appinfo.html?csaid=B120AC8B857DA68F
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jCh> (at code.google.com)
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<docpaul> but it's your description of how you'd do the project
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<docpaul> not a simple rehash of what we've provided
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<l3prador> ok cool, understood
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<docpaul> show us that you have a good understanding of it, and that you've done some research to determine whether it's feasible or not
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<docpaul> given your expertise and experiences
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<l3prador> sure
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<l3prador> and i asked bwolfe earlier about the detailed description of how we would be implementing this project
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<l3prador> and he said that a bulleted list or outline would be better than a paragraph based description
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<docpaul> oh, wait a sec
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<docpaul> have you seen this: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Summer_Of_Code_2008_Application
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jCl> (at openmrs.org)
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<l3prador> yep :)
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<docpaul> k, good... i guess i dont know what goes where... but here's what we want to see (it likely doesn't matter where it goes):
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<docpaul> answers to those questions
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<docpaul> a project plan that describes how you'd implement what you're applying for
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<docpaul> some sense that you're a self-motivated persion
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<docpaul> passion for our mission
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<docpaul> fair enough? :)
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<l3prador> sounds great
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<l3prador> i'm almost finished
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<l3prador> very excited
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<r0bby> I shall be the proud new owner of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009108 soonish :)
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jCb> (at www.newegg.com)
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<docpaul> great l3prador
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<r0bby> ugh i need to cancel
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<r0bby> docpaul: how goes
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<docpaul> good
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<docpaul> i'm doing some writing
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<docpaul> how about you?
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<r0bby> waiting on tigerdirect
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<r0bby> newegg's return policy rubbed me the wrong way
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<docpaul> i see
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<r0bby> Gonna get a widescreen so i can work on dual monitors
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<r0bby> wow
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3716]: xformsorbeon module: cleanup <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3716> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3715]: xformsorbeon module: also supporting all meta-data for all fields. This is ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3715> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3714]: xformsorbeon module: completed javadoc like a good programmer for all ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3714> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3713]: xformsorbeon module: got basic xforms model recursive xml generation ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3713>
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<l3prador> oh no, i'm way over the character limit
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<docpaul> dont worry, you can send it to us
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<l3prador> how should i do that?
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<r0bby> l3prador: type in what you can; email them the remaining
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<l3prador> to where should i email it
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<docpaul> whoops... paul@openmrs.org works
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<l3prador> docpaul: would you like me to email the whole information, or just the part that didn't fit
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<docpaul> the whole thing would be great
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<l3prador> ok, sent it in
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<l3prador> thanks so much, have a great night
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<r0bby> in other news my blog seems to be getting attention...good attention :)
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<r0bby> and argh
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<r0bby> I've bought 4 books 2 Groovy; 2 grails (both grails are books are seperate editions of the same book; second edition not yet released)
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<docpaul> cool. :)
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<docpaul> getting more excited now? :)
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<nribeka> hi all. i thought nobody is still online.
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<nribeka> robby: tomorrow this channel is going to be more crowded :P
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<nribeka> docpaul: what does this means -> Do you have any other commitments that we should know about?
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<docpaul> nri: are you doing other things with your time over the summer?
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<docpaul> that's what that question is trying to get at
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<nribeka> ooo ic.
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<HongJun_> I am still online
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<nribeka> ooo hi hong jun :-)
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<r0bby> nribeka: soc equates to a full time job
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<r0bby> with a very very strict timeline
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<r0bby> somehow you guys are gonna have to keep me focused
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<r0bby> but I'll do it :)
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<r0bby> I better you and burke are the ones who talked me into this
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<nribeka> hahahaha ... yeah, strict time :-)
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<r0bby> I just got the urge to write another example :X
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