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| 00:07:50 | <jjzeidner> are you guys aware that the demo link on your site returns Internal Server Error? |
| 00:09:01 | <docpaul> jj: check in about 30 secs |
| 00:09:15 | <docpaul> i'm out... happy easter everyone. :) |
| 00:09:49 | <jjzeidner> docpaul: sent an email to ben |
| 00:11:03 | <r0bby> docpaul |
| 00:11:05 | <r0bby> you afraid |
| 00:11:17 | <r0bby> er around |
| 00:11:18 | <r0bby> :| |
| 00:11:23 | <docpaul> yep |
| 00:11:28 | <r0bby> oh |
| 00:11:29 | <r0bby> ok |
| 00:11:35 | <docpaul> but i'm zzz'ing away |
| 00:11:36 | <r0bby> where is the modules config option |
| 00:11:45 | <docpaul> hmm |
| 00:11:59 | <r0bby> Uploads are not allowed from the website at this time. The runtime property module.allow_web_admin must be set to true. |
| 00:12:01 | <r0bby> that's what i see |
| 00:12:07 | <docpaul> oh... |
| 00:12:29 | <docpaul> sorry, for security reasons we don't allow the demo site to take modules |
| 00:12:42 | <docpaul> is this your localhost? |
| 00:12:43 | <r0bby> uhm that's _MY_ page :P |
| 00:12:47 | <r0bby> localhost :P |
| 00:12:58 | <jjzeidner> demo.openmrs.org is now working... |
| 00:13:35 | <docpaul> there should be a global properties editor on the admin screen |
| 00:14:07 | <docpaul> under the maitenenace tab |
| 00:14:07 | <r0bby> holy crap |
| 00:14:30 | <r0bby> this needs to be broken up |
| 00:15:01 | <docpaul> find it? |
| 00:15:27 | <docpaul> my wife just stared down at me from the 2nd floor with a dirty look.. hehe |
| 00:15:31 | <docpaul> time to go |
| 00:15:39 | <r0bby> it's not listed at it |
| 00:15:41 | <r0bby> LOL |
| 00:15:46 | <r0bby> LOL |
| 00:15:49 | <docpaul> it should be |
| 00:15:51 | <r0bby> docpaul is in the dog house! |
| 00:16:03 | <r0bby> s nigger |
| 00:16:06 | <docpaul> oh unless it's runtime property |
| 00:16:07 | <r0bby> snigger |
| 00:16:11 | <r0bby> runtime! |
| 00:16:12 | <r0bby> LOL |
| 00:16:13 | <docpaul> which is a file |
| 00:16:16 | <docpaul> hahah |
| 00:16:17 | <r0bby> where... |
| 00:16:46 | <r0bby> tell your wife, you're helping somebody |
| 00:16:50 | <r0bby> :P |
| 00:17:06 | <docpaul> man, she is so tired of hearing that |
| 00:17:08 | <docpaul> hehe |
| 00:17:17 | <docpaul> she wonders when i'm going to help her... hah |
| 00:17:57 | <docpaul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Overriding_OpenMRS_Default_Properties |
| 00:17:59 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1iOw> (at openmrs.org) |
| 00:18:00 | <docpaul> seeya |
| 00:18:10 | <r0bby> we need a karma bot in here |
| 00:25:19 | <jjzeidner> docpaul: thanks! |
| 01:40:20 | <r0bby> hrm |
| 01:40:37 | <r0bby> I just saw a place where we need to validate before gladly accepting it |
| 01:40:46 | <r0bby> I just got a NFE |
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| 12:25:37 | <chelala> Hi where can I see the demo now?? it shows 500 internal error?? |
| 12:26:23 | <chelala> does openmrs can hold pathology exams like biopsy, autopsy out of the box?? |
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| 14:44:57 | <r0bby> /jj |
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| 15:18:42 | <r0bby> hai |
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| 15:22:27 | <r0bby> ben :> |
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| 15:22:48 | <bwolfe> hey there r0bby |
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| 15:33:18 | <napi> hello all |
| 15:35:56 | <napi> Just stumbled upon OpenMRS through GSoC- very interested in getting involved! Just wish my dissertation deadline wasn't in 3 weeks.. not much time to familiarize myself with the whole thing before applications are due in |
| 15:36:51 | <bwolfe> hey napi, welcome |
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| 15:37:15 | <bwolfe> eh, just forget about the dissertation...its not as imporatant as gsoc ;-) |
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| 15:39:03 | <napi> I'll forget it if you guarantee me a job for rest of my life :p |
| 15:39:29 | <bwolfe> hmm, tricky |
| 15:40:08 | <bwolfe> whats your dissertation topic? |
| 15:40:14 | <napi> remote awareness |
| 15:40:48 | <bwolfe> interesting |
| 15:41:04 | <bwolfe> define "remote" |
| 15:41:27 | <napi> Aimed at large organisations (specfically those based in multiple phyiscal sites) - software provides "availability" rating for collegues, suggesting when is good/bad time to make contact |
| 15:41:45 | <bwolfe> burke: sent the invite to your rg email address |
| 15:44:49 | <sunbiz> so..howz the sunday going... not much talk on the IRC today |
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| 15:46:02 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: nah, pretty slow today |
| 15:46:44 | <r0bby> burke: I'm going to need your help... A LOT of help here; i'm completely overwhelmed, i've never taken on a project this big :/ |
| 15:46:46 | <sunbiz> Ben: wanted to ask you something... does it mean that it takes 3 months to complete each of those from the projects page ?? |
| 15:47:30 | <r0bby> sunbiz: it's probably a lot of work |
| 15:47:37 | <r0bby> s/probably/is/ |
| 15:47:47 | <sunbiz> can the same person work on more than 1 project?? |
| 15:47:50 | <burke> r0bby: what project are you looking at? |
| 15:48:09 | <burke> sunbiz: probably not a good idea |
| 15:48:16 | <r0bby> Groovy integration :> |
| 15:48:22 | <sunbiz> I mean after he/she finishes one ?? |
| 15:48:25 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: if a gsoc student gets a project done early, the will be given another project |
| 15:48:26 | <burke> tho, there are some projects that have some natural overlap |
| 15:48:45 | <burke> r0bby: cule. I have some ideas for that. |
| 15:48:46 | <bwolfe> but the projects listed are supposed to be one per student for the length of gsoc |
| 15:49:03 | <r0bby> I read -- burke do you have IM or something; pm on irc is a crapshoot at times |
| 15:49:27 | <r0bby> bwolfe is gonna kill me at some point |
| 15:49:33 | <burke> hehe |
| 15:49:40 | <r0bby> bwolfe: do you need my address so you know where to send the hitman? |
| 15:49:42 | <r0bby> :P |
| 15:50:14 | <burke> the hitman is going to napi's house so our GSoC will effectively give him a job "for life" |
| 15:50:26 | <bwolfe> nah, I'm sure I can just trace one of your multiple IPs :-) |
| 15:50:27 | <burke> but the hitman has to wait until end of summer |
| 15:50:46 | <napi> lol |
| 15:51:09 | <burke> so, that means napi can do a GSoC project! |
| 15:51:11 | <r0bby> multiple? |
| 15:51:12 | <burke> :D |
| 15:51:18 | <r0bby> I have one fucking ip :P |
| 15:51:19 | <napi> only if you expect me to ditch my dissertation |
| 15:51:27 | <napi> handing it in 3 weeks tomorrow! |
| 15:51:32 | <r0bby> Oh and if you look up the whois on my domain name :P |
| 15:51:40 | * r0bby whistles |
| 15:51:44 | <burke> napi: then what's the big deal about missing gsoc? |
| 15:52:04 | <r0bby> napi: just show you're worthy for the internship |
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| 15:53:22 | <napi> burke; invaluable experience that I can focus on, rather than having to find the time while also looking for a job |
| 15:53:55 | <bwolfe> r0bby: 504 <<ADDRESS REDACTED>> ? |
| 15:54:57 | <r0bby> FUCKER |
| 15:55:02 | <r0bby> thanks for publishing it :P |
| 15:55:08 | <r0bby> on a fucking channel that's logged |
| 15:55:28 | <r0bby> but then again it IS a matter of public record |
| 15:55:42 | <burke> the real bummer is that our hitman just took out the person at 405 Balmoral. Oops. |
| 15:55:44 | * napi gets the map ready for the hitman |
| 15:55:47 | <bwolfe> want me to paste in your phone number too? :-) |
| 15:56:07 | <r0bby> LOL |
| 15:56:13 | <r0bby> NO! |
| 15:56:24 | <r0bby> I already dealt with one retard calling me |
| 15:56:33 | <burke> r0bby: I hope you didn't care for that neighbor. |
| 15:56:43 | <r0bby> That address doesn't exist :P |
| 15:56:45 | <r0bby> so i dont care. |
| 15:57:01 | <burke> wow. I didn't realize our hitman was that good. He took out the entire house? |
| 15:57:09 | <bwolfe> haha |
| 15:57:17 | <bwolfe> we're overpaying him methinks |
| 15:58:12 | <r0bby> LOL |
| 15:58:17 | <burke> Actually, if we video conference, I should be able to drag your video to the trash can on my Mac to do the job. |
| 15:58:27 | <burke> these new macbooks are getting pretty fancy |
| 15:58:34 | <r0bby> DAMN YOU |
| 15:58:42 | <r0bby> i have a dell inspiron which i can't close the lid on. |
| 15:58:55 | <burke> dude...you got a dell. :p |
| 15:58:59 | <r0bby> yeh |
| 15:59:09 | <napi> my toshiba has just packed up... after 10 years without reformatting once! |
| 15:59:10 | <r0bby> if i close the lid i potentially wont get video back until a reboot |
| 15:59:25 | <r0bby> I have a sneaky feeling it's my wifi driver |
| 15:59:46 | <bwolfe> madwifi r0bby ? |
| 15:59:49 | <napi> loads of laptops seem to have problem with wifi stopping working when they close/re-open |
| 16:00:15 | <r0bby> bwolfe: si. |
| 16:00:21 | <r0bby> is that a known problem? |
| 16:00:57 | <bwolfe> I know Brian (bmckown) had a lot of trouble with that driver |
| 16:01:07 | <bwolfe> freezing/restarting type of problems |
| 16:01:13 | <bwolfe> clean shutdown problems too |
| 16:01:25 | <r0bby> it works fine for that |
| 16:01:29 | <bwolfe> he's using the ndiswrapper now iirc |
| 16:01:45 | <r0bby> I can't be bothered |
| 16:02:11 | <r0bby> I just leave my lid open 24/7 |
| 16:02:47 | <r0bby> there needs to be like a book for devs to read |
| 16:02:50 | <r0bby> I'm overwhelmed |
| 16:03:08 | <r0bby> not "click here" "click this next" |
| 16:03:18 | <r0bby> "Okay, now sell your soul to docpaul and burke" |
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| 16:03:37 | <r0bby> "Okay, now wait for our hitman to take you out" |
| 16:04:11 | <r0bby> should I be developing against trunk or what? |
| 16:04:11 | <r0bby> OH mnevermind |
| 16:04:18 | * r0bby needs to rtfm |
| 16:05:43 | * bwolfe needs to wtfm |
| 16:05:53 | <bwolfe> w=write :-) |
| 16:05:55 | <burke> r0bby: there is definitely a learning curve. we're working to improve it (we've hired a technical writer & are working on refactoring the api)... |
| 16:06:24 | <burke> now take off the m at the end :p |
| 16:08:14 | <napi> all api's have learning curves |
| 16:08:24 | <r0bby> I'll learn it quick |
| 16:10:12 | <r0bby> paul is seriously gonna have to walk me through the data-model |
| 16:10:19 | <bwolfe> napi: so getting to know the code isn't 100% needed by the time students start |
| 16:10:28 | <bwolfe> its just 100% recommended :-) |
| 16:10:35 | <r0bby> I wanna know the codebase |
| 16:10:42 | <r0bby> I *REALLY* wanna do this -- but right now |
| 16:10:47 | <napi> well knowing it by the time I start wouldn't be the issue. It's knowing it by the deadline for applications |
| 16:10:47 | <r0bby> kinda overwhelmed |
| 16:10:58 | <r0bby> and well uhm never worked on something this huge :P |
| 16:11:00 | <napi> Want to do the pateint portrait |
| 16:11:10 | <r0bby> napi: somebody else is gonna do that iirc |
| 16:11:14 | * r0bby points to jjzeidner |
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| 16:11:27 | <napi> oh goody lol |
| 16:11:47 | <r0bby> napi: i'm gonna work on groovy integration w/ burke |
| 16:12:07 | <bwolfe> jjzeidner: is going to work on complex_obs I think |
| 16:12:08 | <r0bby> I'm seriously gonna make use of my whiteboard here to keep shit straight |
| 16:12:20 | <bwolfe> and there have been more than a few people showing interest in the patient image support project |
| 16:12:24 | <r0bby> bwolfe: which includes images :P |
| 16:12:32 | <r0bby> I have no interest unfortunately |
| 16:12:39 | <r0bby> I have a niche in groovy |
| 16:12:40 | <r0bby> :x |
| 16:12:44 | <r0bby> drove people NUTS |
| 16:12:49 | <r0bby> oh burke |
| 16:12:57 | <r0bby> update your blog post to not import java.io.* |
| 16:13:00 | <bwolfe> r0bby: probably not...burke will tell you that patient images will probably end up getting stored in person_attributes :-) |
| 16:13:02 | <r0bby> it's not needed :P |
| 16:13:32 | <r0bby> bwolfe: that was not to you; that was to burke |
| 16:13:48 | <r0bby> groovy imports most of the commonly used packages for you |
| 16:13:51 | <burke> yeah...I realized that later. I'll fixed it. I copied that from a Groovy example somewhere. |
| 16:14:03 | <r0bby> whoever wrote that is a moron |
| 16:14:12 | <r0bby> or didn't bother reading |
| 16:14:57 | <burke> i want to be a moron too. |
| 16:15:04 | <sunbiz> is anyone already doing the image acquisition and viewing thing ?? |
| 16:15:24 | <burke> sunbiz: not yet. it's popular, though. |
| 16:15:38 | <r0bby> def sb = new StringBulder(); def list = ['musa',30,m].each { sb.append(it).append(" "); } sb.toString(); |
| 16:15:50 | <r0bby> random |
| 16:15:51 | <r0bby> :> |
| 16:16:02 | <r0bby> def sb = new StringBulder(); def list = ['musa',30,'m'].each { sb.append(it).append(" "); } sb.toString(); |
| 16:16:06 | <r0bby> now it works. |
| 16:16:07 | <r0bby> :> |
| 16:16:20 | <r0bby> native language support for lists/maps ftw! |
| 16:16:29 | <sunbiz> wasnt the license patch tried ?? |
| 16:16:30 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: no one is doing any of the projects in the "new and assigned projects" section. several students have written emails or talked in here about that particular one though |
| 16:16:50 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: not yet. let me fire up eclipse |
| 16:16:51 | <burke> ['musa',30,'m'].join(' ') |
| 16:16:56 | <r0bby> OH! |
| 16:16:58 | <r0bby> :) |
| 16:17:04 | <r0bby> burke: thanks |
| 16:17:06 | <r0bby> good :) |
| 16:17:12 | <r0bby> that's one way |
| 16:17:15 | <r0bby> :D |
| 16:17:22 | <r0bby> burke++ |
| 16:17:22 | <burke> r0bby: have you every programmed in python? |
| 16:17:30 | <r0bby> burke: no, but i looked at it |
| 16:17:33 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: can you attach the java file (or script) you wrote to generate it? |
| 16:17:42 | <r0bby> and python uses levels of indentation for blocks iirc |
| 16:17:57 | <sunbiz> yea.. I'll do that |
| 16:18:04 | <burke> python rocks. and python does with lists what perl does with text -- i.e., eats it up & makes it insanely easy |
| 16:18:05 | <r0bby> it's not that bad |
| 16:18:15 | <sunbiz> I think I changed the folder parser at the end moment |
| 16:18:16 | <burke> groovy seems to take the goodness of python re: lists |
| 16:18:21 | <r0bby> groovy is based off of python yeh |
| 16:18:24 | <r0bby> and ruby |
| 16:18:28 | <r0bby> and a few languages |
| 16:18:33 | <burke> i dunno the specifics of the history |
| 16:18:36 | <burke> but it feels like it |
| 16:18:38 | <r0bby> the closures in groovy are what made it insanely nice. |
| 16:18:44 | <sunbiz> more like Ruby+Python |
| 16:18:58 | <r0bby> wikipedia has a good bit on the language history |
| 16:19:05 | <burke> i *love* the operator overloading and the support for """multiple line |
| 16:19:07 | <sunbiz> actually... groovy rhymes with ruby!! |
| 16:19:07 | <burke> strings""" |
| 16:19:18 | <burke> slant rhyme |
| 16:19:24 | <sunbiz> yea |
| 16:19:26 | <r0bby> burke: do you have IM or something that'd make communication easier |
| 16:19:49 | <r0bby> or is it better to discuss in the open channel |
| 16:20:15 | <burke> we're all about transparency |
| 16:20:20 | <burke> we learn more that way |
| 16:20:32 | <burke> gsoc students will be pushed to discuss projects on the dev list |
| 16:20:42 | <burke> and blog at least weekly |
| 16:20:49 | <r0bby> I'm not doing gsoc |
| 16:20:54 | <burke> y not? |
| 16:21:03 | <burke> do you not like google t-shirts? |
| 16:21:06 | <r0bby> 1) not an active student |
| 16:21:10 | <r0bby> Broke matriculation |
| 16:21:24 | <r0bby> by taking the semester off b/c my schedule didnt allow for school |
| 16:21:35 | <burke> hmmm. any chance that you'll be going to any school in the near/distant future? |
| 16:22:03 | <r0bby> in a study about parathyroidism hormone replacement in people w/ hypoparathyrodism and the effects on the skeletal system |
| 16:22:14 | <r0bby> (At columbia university (new york presbyterian) |
| 16:22:36 | <burke> so, you're at a university? that's getting warmer. :-) |
| 16:22:40 | <r0bby> and the visits are scheduled close together atm i'd miss SO much class |
| 16:22:45 | <r0bby> burke: no |
| 16:22:46 | <r0bby> LOL |
| 16:22:55 | <r0bby> im a study SUBJECT |
| 16:22:56 | <r0bby> lOL |
| 16:22:59 | <r0bby> not a student :P |
| 16:23:02 | <burke> so no plan to return to school? |
| 16:23:06 | <burke> subjects can learn too. |
| 16:23:06 | <r0bby> yes |
| 16:23:09 | <r0bby> next semester |
| 16:23:14 | <r0bby> hopefully |
| 16:23:17 | <burke> so, you're a student on a break, then. |
| 16:23:21 | <r0bby> depending on how things are going |
| 16:23:31 | <r0bby> but currently im not considered a student :P |
| 16:23:49 | <burke> that's a technicality. |
| 16:23:58 | <r0bby> and it's a community college (A.S. in computer science) |
| 16:24:27 | <burke> if you're taking time off from school while participating in this study and planning to return, then you're a student. |
| 16:24:31 | <sunbiz> robby: sorry for my noobness, but whats A.S stand for?? |
| 16:24:42 | <r0bby> Associates of Science |
| 16:24:45 | <burke> if you're studying Java specs to learn about them, you're a student |
| 16:24:52 | <burke> you're more student than not, r0bby |
| 16:25:04 | <r0bby> this is for _ME_ not for college credit |
| 16:25:29 | <sunbiz> I agree with burke on that one from whatever I've heard from you |
| 16:25:54 | <burke> r0bby: do you want to participate in GSoC? that is, if you were actively in school, would you? |
| 16:25:57 | <r0bby> sunbiz: yeh -- just the new java features that may or may not be integrated into the official sun jdk |
| 16:26:05 | <r0bby> burke: pm? |
| 16:26:12 | <burke> sure. |
| 16:27:55 | <sunbiz> burke: u wanted the java file right ?? |
| 16:28:48 | <sunbiz> do...I attach it to the same ticket ?? |
| 16:29:38 | <sunbiz> I removed the folder parsing part in the end coz it was taking lot of time and I thought the process was hanging |
| 16:29:57 | <sunbiz> I'll attach the manual folder selection one |
| 16:32:47 | * bwolfe absolutely loves leftover ham sandwiches |
| 16:33:09 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: yeah, same ticket |
| 16:34:30 | <sunbiz> ben: done |
| 16:35:53 | <sunbiz> Before SoC starts I also want to do a few other tickets... like #152, #175 with Firefox |
| 16:36:13 | <sunbiz> those are pretty old ones |
| 16:38:12 | <bwolfe> 175 is a project on the project page as well.... |
| 16:38:20 | <bwolfe> 152 drives me bonkers |
| 16:40:42 | <sunbiz> 152 should be fun... I once made a extension for our internal student monitoring through the browser |
| 16:42:11 | <sunbiz> it should be on how I made on my blog: http://sunnytalkstech.blogspot.com |
| 16:43:47 | <bwolfe> for solving 152? or do you mean 175? |
| 16:45:38 | <sunbiz> #175 is the firefox addon... right?? So I had made a firefox addon for student monitoring |
| 16:46:13 | <sunbiz> its not like #175, but just an addon, a little more complex than #175 |
| 16:46:30 | <sunbiz> I guess... #175 shouldn't take much time |
| 16:47:04 | <bwolfe> right, it should be fairly easy. more a matter of figuring out the firefox plugin setup than anything |
| 16:47:58 | <sunbiz> I guess when we start the webapp for the first time we can ask for the addon install |
| 16:48:29 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: nah, we'd probably just make it totally optional and only link to it in the documentation |
| 16:48:53 | <sunbiz> i..i..sir |
| 16:49:21 | <bwolfe> the plugin just fixes the annoying popup and makes the infopath form from openmrs a lot more seamless...its not necessary for things to work perse |
| 16:49:49 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: besides, we don't want to force people to use firefox |
| 16:50:26 | <sunbiz> yea... but when infopath is installed it may directly open there na?? |
| 16:50:51 | <sunbiz> and it'll only ask to install when we can detect firefox ... |
| 16:51:03 | <sunbiz> anyways...I agree with ur points... better to have it in the doc |
| 16:52:54 | <bwolfe> yeah, I suppose we could put a check in the formentry module (the one that uses infopath) that checks for firefox...but then is there a js call in firefox for "does this plugin exist" ? |
| 16:54:01 | <sunbiz> Firefox manages the install of the XPI... we dont need to worry about that |
| 16:56:31 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: yeah, I get that...but I'm talking about possibly doing your little note to the user |
| 16:56:51 | <bwolfe> in our jsp pages we could put a small js call to see what hte current user's browser is |
| 16:57:03 | <sunbiz> Ben: why did we change the image acquisition separate... and the viewing+annotation separate ?? |
| 16:57:10 | <sunbiz> Are they pretty big ones ?? |
| 16:57:32 | <sunbiz> yes... we can do that using the normal agent test!! |
| 16:58:11 | <bwolfe> if the browser is firefox, we then do another call to see if the user already has that special plugin? if they don't have it, we show then a note saying "you can improve your experience if you install ___". if they do have the plugin already, just continue as normal |
| 16:58:30 | <sunbiz> yes...exactly |
| 16:58:57 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: not sure on the project separation. burke and paul did that on friday. I think the way its laid out with writing a java applet its a pretty big project |
| 16:59:12 | <bwolfe> if its written as a javascript tool, it would be a lot smaller I think |
| 16:59:27 | <bwolfe> sunbiz: do you know of the js call in firefox for "does the user have plugin X" ? |
| 17:01:24 | <sunbiz> when u open the XPI |
| 17:01:29 | <sunbiz> it'll tell its already installed |
| 17:02:09 | <bwolfe> but before that |
| 17:02:11 | <sunbiz> I dont think Im geting you correctly then?? |
| 17:02:50 | <burke> sunbiz: we separated the projects b/c there's plenty to do on each side (lots of workflow and details on image acquisition -- e.g., crop/fix/add metadata prior to uploading). image viewing has its own details to worry about (different image manipulation needs, zoom/pan/image adjustments and annotations) |
| 17:03:00 | <bwolfe> so that we can just show a note to the user suggestion that they install the plugin. |
| 17:03:12 | <bwolfe> why show a note saying that they should install it if they already have it? |
| 17:04:07 | <sunbiz> yea... we wont if its already installed |
| 17:10:17 | <sunbiz> ok...guys gotta get back... 4:40am and I've tanenbaum's DS calling!! |
| 17:10:44 | <bwolfe> ha, ok |
| 17:10:46 | <bwolfe> cya |
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| 18:05:34 | <docpaul> hi. :) |
| 18:06:07 | <docpaul> we've got a rockstar candidate for the "advanced image manipulation" project |
| 18:06:55 | <r0bby> docpaul: =) |
| 18:07:08 | <r0bby> I just got a sample read-only property example written! |
| 18:07:10 | <docpaul> heya roberto. :) |
| 18:07:25 | <r0bby> me and burke were hammering out a way that i could do soc |
| 18:07:27 | <Keelhaul> hi |
| 18:18:27 | <r0bby> hey Keelhaul |
| 18:19:01 | <napi> r0bby, got it sorted? |
| 18:19:14 | <r0bby> napi: sort of |
| 18:19:24 | <r0bby> but not sure yet |
| 18:32:21 | <r0bby> WOW properties are kickass |
| 18:32:34 | <napi> :) |
| 18:32:40 | <r0bby> http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=14386 |
| 18:32:41 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1iUG> (at eugeneciurana.com) |
| 18:32:41 | <r0bby> :) |
| 18:32:55 | <r0bby> :D |
| 18:33:42 | <r0bby> getting me motivated isn't hard |
| 18:33:58 | <napi> mm so glad I got a piece of coursework to do in java in a couple of weeks - will refresh my memory of the language. not used it for over a year now :/ |
| 18:34:08 | <r0bby> napi: Oh |
| 18:34:12 | <r0bby> Iw arn you |
| 18:34:16 | <r0bby> that's not in java yet :P |
| 18:34:23 | <r0bby> it's a proposed topic |
| 18:34:24 | <napi> lol i know |
| 18:34:44 | <napi> But just looking at it reminded me |
| 18:37:05 | <napi> righty. shoving dissertation schedule back a day so I can work out openmrs so I can actually make a decent application |
| 18:37:25 | * napi sends grovelling email to tutor |
| 18:38:52 | <burke> r0bby: http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=14387 |
| 18:38:53 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1iUL> (at eugeneciurana.com) |
| 18:39:02 | <burke> and it works today. :p |
| 18:39:15 | <r0bby> burke: duh |
| 18:39:19 | <r0bby> groovy |
| 18:39:21 | <r0bby> I know that. |
| 18:39:29 | <burke> hehe |
| 18:39:41 | <r0bby> I spent days JUST reading groovy in action |
| 18:39:59 | <Keelhaul> =o |
| 18:40:13 | <napi> I can't afford more than a day though |
| 18:40:29 | <napi> I don't need to know the api inside out - just enough that I can write an informed application |
| 18:40:48 | <napi> ".. inside out" + "at this stage" |
| 18:43:04 | <r0bby> I need to know a good bit |
| 18:43:23 | <r0bby> the rest I can use javadocs |
| 18:43:36 | <r0bby> nobody COMPLETELY memorized the java API |
| 18:43:44 | <r0bby> but you're familiar w/ it |
| 18:44:03 | <r0bby> like knowing what methods what params etc |
| 18:45:10 | <napi> refreshing java will be cake. it's becoming familiar with openmrs structure that will take time |
| 18:46:11 | <r0bby> heh yeh |
| 18:46:16 | <r0bby> yeh |
| 18:46:44 | <r0bby> i'll prolly wind up doing it for nothing so motivation will really be that it'll be helping others |
| 18:47:39 | <Keelhaul> you dont have to KNOW the params |
| 18:47:44 | <Keelhaul> or methods |
| 18:47:46 | <Keelhaul> just have a good IDE =P |
| 18:48:36 | <napi> r0bby; I graduate in july, so being able to do this through gsoc would be awesome as I wouldn't have to worry about getting a job while I can focus on coding projects |
| 18:48:51 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: yeh |
| 18:48:56 | <r0bby> lately i'm ruined |
| 18:49:05 | <r0bby> but for example I know String.split() takes a regex |
| 18:49:12 | <r0bby> and String.matches() a regex too. |
| 18:49:50 | <r0bby> but it's quicker knows then scrolling through a list of options EVERY time |
| 18:51:47 | <Keelhaul> i was referring to the openmrs api mostly |
| 18:52:00 | <Keelhaul> but a good ide helps with standard java as well i guess |
| 18:52:44 | <napi> We currently have a commonly used plugin, which utilizes Microsoft's InfoPath program for data entry <-- was no way round that? :/ |
| 18:54:02 | <elad> what ide do you guys use? I mainly use eclipse, but im looking at intellij idea |
| 18:54:12 | <bwolfe> infopath had (and has) the best gui form creation process |
| 18:54:27 | <bwolfe> r0bby here uses idea...and he'll sing its praises for you |
| 18:54:40 | <bwolfe> all of the cool kids use eclipse though |
| 18:54:44 | <Keelhaul> lol |
| 18:54:45 | <elad> o/ |
| 18:54:57 | <napi> Jcreator here |
| 18:55:01 | <Keelhaul> eclipse can be a bitch |
| 18:55:06 | <Keelhaul> but it's good enough i gues |
| 18:55:06 | <Keelhaul> s |
| 18:58:16 | <napi> hmm. openmrs demo is slooooow atm |
| 19:00:37 | <docpaul> we went with a hosted solution for the demo site, and i'm beginning to think it was a big mistake |
| 19:00:48 | <docpaul> we had our own dedicated machine, and it ran awesome |
| 19:01:04 | <docpaul> hi guys |
| 19:01:32 | <napi> changed cause of the cost? |
| 19:01:45 | <docpaul> no, changed b/c we thought it'd be easier and less maitenance |
| 19:01:47 | <docpaul> pshaw |
| 19:02:43 | <napi> fair enough |
| 19:03:01 | <bwolfe> I don't think its running any worse than it would have on our machine paul |
| 19:03:17 | <bwolfe> besides, we would have had to manage two tomcat installs anyway |
| 19:03:34 | <bwolfe> because its a necessity to separate modules/occ/update with demo |
| 19:04:43 | * r0bby dances |
| 19:04:50 | <r0bby> Okay I've got properties examples set up |
| 19:04:50 | <r0bby> :) |
| 19:04:59 | <r0bby> not sure _WHY_ i'd use a write-only property |
| 19:05:22 | <r0bby> perhaps for maybe instantiating something |
| 19:05:39 | <r0bby> like a reference variable perhaps |
| 19:05:54 | <r0bby> but even then... |
| 19:07:23 | <r0bby> bwolfe: =D |
| 19:07:29 | * r0bby dances |
| 19:07:55 | <bwolfe> ? |
| 19:08:00 | <r0bby> nothing |
| 19:08:10 | <bwolfe> r0bby-- |
| 19:08:12 | <r0bby> I think I a java 7 fetish |
| 19:08:20 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 19:09:20 | <r0bby> I've just written code in my IDE completely ignoring the syntax errors it yells at me for |
| 19:09:29 | <r0bby> it |
| 19:09:40 | <r0bby> s/it// |
| 19:18:53 | * r0bby adding ANOTHER post |
| 19:23:04 | <elad> robby, have you used the gui editor in idea? |
| 19:23:14 | <r0bby> elad: I don't use gui editors. |
| 19:23:20 | <r0bby> I despise them too much |
| 19:23:31 | <r0bby> find me one that generates elegant code |
| 19:23:41 | <elad> ive only used netbeans and well the generated code is nasty |
| 19:24:02 | <r0bby> you dont have to tell me. |
| 19:26:24 | <r0bby> HAHAHHAHA |
| 19:27:31 | <r0bby> read-only properties aren't really read-only |
| 19:28:20 | <Keelhaul> hm |
| 19:28:27 | <Keelhaul> theres something i wanted to ask |
| 19:28:33 | <Keelhaul> oh yea |
| 19:28:44 | <Keelhaul> the openmrs constants class |
| 19:28:47 | <Keelhaul> if i add new privs |
| 19:29:00 | <Keelhaul> am i supposed to extend it? |
| 19:29:45 | <r0bby> according to tthe spec it SHOULD be a compile-time error... |
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| 19:42:01 | <docpaul> ben is a total tool bucket... and his momma is so ugly that... |
| 19:42:05 | <docpaul> whoops |
| 19:42:09 | <bwolfe> haha |
| 19:42:15 | <bwolfe> !karma docpaul -- |
| 19:42:15 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "karma" is not a valid command. |
| 19:44:24 | <napi> !list |
| 19:44:24 | <OpenMRSBot> napi: Admin, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Herald, Misc, NickCapture, Note, Owner, RSS, Reply, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Status, Todo, and User |
| 19:44:38 | <bwolfe> hmm, I turned on karma for our bot, but I don't know how to use it! |
| 19:44:43 | <bwolfe> ~docpaul-- |
| 19:44:50 | <bwolfe> nothin' |
| 19:45:13 | <bwolfe> oh well |
| 19:45:39 | <bwolfe> heading out |
| 19:45:42 | <bwolfe> cya guys |
| 19:45:47 | <napi> night |
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| 19:48:47 | <nribeka> hi all |
| 19:49:04 | <nribeka> i need to ask question about openmrs |
| 19:49:28 | <nribeka> docpaul, i have a question |
| 19:49:32 | <nribeka> are you busy now? |
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| 19:52:25 | <r0bby> you're kidding right |
| 19:52:27 | <r0bby> ... |
| 19:53:03 | <nribeka> hei robby, how are you? |
| 19:53:21 | <nribeka> i'm sure you are familiar with openmrs code right haha ... |
| 19:53:37 | <nribeka> i'll ask you then ... :D |
| 19:54:26 | <sunbiz> hey..guys !! |
| 19:55:37 | <Keelhaul> hi |
| 19:56:04 | <sunbiz> robby: was reading about u hating GUI editors!! :)) |
| 19:56:15 | <sunbiz> u really dont believe much in RAD I guess... |
| 19:58:09 | <r0bby> nribeka: i'm not actually |
| 20:00:11 | <sunbiz> have u tried netBeans Database application GUI template!! try building something like that with beans binding in Emacs :P |
| 20:00:12 | <nribeka> hehe ... i need to wait for the others then :P |
| 20:03:05 | <r0bby> sunbiz: no |
| 20:03:09 | <r0bby> i dont use netbeans |
| 20:03:11 | <r0bby> ever. |
| 20:03:38 | <sunbiz> it really helps when u have a deadline... |
| 20:05:08 | <sunbiz> and J2ME development!!?? Obviously netBeans beats all the other IDEs out there!! |
| 20:05:26 | <nribeka> i use eclipse most of the time |
| 20:06:12 | <nribeka> netbeans is kinda sucks most of the time, just personal opinion though ... :-P |
| 20:06:12 | <sunbiz> nribeka: for J2ME dev as well ?? |
| 20:06:32 | <nribeka> haven't gone to J2ME side ... |
| 20:06:43 | <sunbiz> which was the last version of netbeans that u've used ?? |
| 20:07:00 | <nribeka> just recently |
| 20:07:11 | <nribeka> 6.x i think |
| 20:07:25 | <sunbiz> ok... |
| 20:07:38 | <nribeka> there were some minor glitches that i find annoying ... |
| 20:07:43 | <sunbiz> r u working on the auto-update on MRS ?? |
| 20:07:48 | <sunbiz> like ?? |
| 20:08:16 | <nribeka> yeah, i want to work on that but right now i'm working on the internationalization part |
| 20:08:51 | <nribeka> most of the value are hard coded in the OpenMRSConstants class and inside the database :-P |
| 20:09:06 | <nribeka> not most of them |
| 20:09:10 | <nribeka> some of them ... |
| 20:09:39 | <nribeka> sorry, i'm not a my native language is not english :-P |
| 20:10:12 | <nribeka> hahaha ... i screw up, my native language is not english |
| 20:11:33 | <nribeka> robby: wow, you are talking about futurama now |
| 20:11:35 | <sunbiz> I brought up the topic of auto-update when talking about netBeans...because they updates modules in a good way |
| 20:11:56 | <sunbiz> *update |
| 20:12:14 | <nribeka> how did they do the update? |
| 20:12:47 | <nribeka> do you have any references? |
| 20:12:53 | <sunbiz> With an update descriptor... marking the changes in modules |
| 20:13:08 | <r0bby> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com/2008/03/java-gets-some-properties.html |
| 20:13:10 | <r0bby> latest |
| 20:13:11 | <sunbiz> and then download the modules |
| 20:13:11 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1iVW> (at robbyoconnor.blogspot.com) |
| 20:13:40 | <sunbiz> and then after the modules asks if you want to restart the IDE |
| 20:13:59 | <nribeka> robby: haha ... suddenly it's a new one there |
| 20:16:22 | <nribeka> sunbiz: where is this "marking the changes in modules" occur? in local machine? so you mean netbeans contact the update site everytime we start netbeans? |
| 20:16:38 | <r0bby> it's HORRIBLE this prototype |
| 20:16:52 | <r0bby> it totally ignores an IMPORTANT aspect of the spec. |
| 20:17:20 | <docpaul> sorry |
| 20:17:22 | <docpaul> i'm back |
| 20:17:48 | <docpaul> whatcha need nri? |
| 20:18:08 | <r0bby> gawd that example actually makes me sick |
| 20:18:10 | <sunbiz> yea |
| 20:18:27 | <nribeka> just wanna update about the intl stuff |
| 20:18:51 | <sunbiz> robby: Properties aren't a very good idea...atleast the way they affect the language in C# |
| 20:19:14 | <nribeka> seems that some value come from the database and OpenmrsConstants class |
| 20:19:25 | <nribeka> this value will always be in english :-P |
| 20:19:37 | <nribeka> so, is it ok to change the database? |
| 20:20:00 | <nribeka> change it to key of the spring properties? |
| 20:20:11 | <nribeka> message.properties i mean |
| 20:20:31 | <docpaul> there are different message.properties files for different localizations |
| 20:20:52 | <docpaul> we have french and portugese and something else i think as well as english |
| 20:20:59 | <docpaul> i havent kept up with that all that much |
| 20:22:03 | <r0bby> sunbiz: how so? |
| 20:22:52 | <sunbiz> I'm trying to find an example to show you the thing... |
| 20:23:04 | <r0bby> write up one. |
| 20:23:08 | <nribeka> yup i see that, but some of the message displayed are not coming from the props file |
| 20:23:17 | <r0bby> but regardless it's handy to have |
| 20:23:44 | <r0bby> sunbiz, and i'm sure whoever designed the spec has taken that into account |
| 20:23:54 | <sunbiz> http://cephas.net/blog/2004/02/16/c-public-properties-vs-java-getx-and-setx/ |
| 20:23:56 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1iVk> (at cephas.net) |
| 20:24:10 | <sunbiz> this is one accessor problem...but there are many more |
| 20:25:12 | <sunbiz> Ruby has the one of the best ideas closer to the properties that is ideal |
| 20:25:59 | <r0bby> sunbiz: class Foo { private String name; } def f = new Foo(); f.name = "rob"; println f.name; |
| 20:27:24 | <sunbiz> thats good |
| 20:27:37 | <r0bby> sunbiz: getters are indeed generated there. |
| 20:27:58 | <r0bby> i forgot the operator to access fields directly |
| 20:29:26 | <sunbiz> yes... u aint making it clean with the current JCP on properties |
| 20:30:55 | <nribeka> docpaul, go to logoff for a moment |
| 20:30:58 | <nribeka> brb |
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| 20:31:13 | <r0bby> heh |
| 20:31:31 | <sunbiz> me signing off as well |
| 20:31:46 | <sunbiz> bye! |
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| 20:42:12 | <r0bby> interesting |
| 20:42:16 | <r0bby> reflection doesn't work. |
| 20:44:18 | <r0bby> (using the prototype |
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| 20:50:41 | <r0bby> interesting im the first bug report ;x |
| 20:57:15 | <Keelhaul> lol |
| 20:57:29 | <Keelhaul> why did sunbiz request a disclaimer in all files? |
| 21:01:55 | <r0bby> ... |
| 21:02:36 | <r0bby> Now i put a lot of clout to things Fowler says (he's a brilliant man; as well as an amazing teacher) |
| 21:02:44 | <r0bby> he can program _AND_ teach. |
| 21:03:12 | <r0bby> but properties could improve the language; not having worked w/ C# much i can't comment |
| 21:24:30 | <nribeka> docpaul: are u still there? |
| 21:27:02 | <docpaul> nri: yes |
| 21:28:52 | <nribeka> as i said before, some of the string literal used in openmrs are hard coded inside openmrsconstants and database |
| 21:29:13 | <nribeka> you can see the example of them in the Privilege Management page |
| 21:29:22 | <docpaul> yes |
| 21:29:56 | <docpaul> is that a question or a prep for a comment |
| 21:30:49 | <nribeka> prep for comment :D |
| 21:35:13 | <nribeka> is it ok to change the database? |
| 21:35:26 | <docpaul> how do you want to change it? |
| 21:35:51 | <nribeka> just changing the value |
| 21:36:03 | <docpaul> of what, a privilege? |
| 21:36:29 | <nribeka> no |
| 21:37:06 | <nribeka> the privilege string is in the OpenmrsConstants class |
| 21:37:26 | <nribeka> the one in the database is the location stuff in the create new patient page |
| 21:37:35 | <nribeka> just changing the string value to key |
| 21:38:01 | <nribeka> so when we display it, instead of taking the string directly from database |
| 21:38:14 | <nribeka> we get the key of props from the database |
| 21:38:25 | <nribeka> and let spring fetch the value from the props |
| 21:38:34 | <docpaul> i'm having a hard time following... perhaps a language thing |
| 21:38:44 | <nribeka> haha ... i'm sorry :( |
| 21:38:56 | <docpaul> no, not your fault |
| 21:40:42 | <docpaul> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs/branches/api_refactoring/src/api/org/openmrs/util/OpenmrsConstants.java?rev=3608 |
| 21:40:51 | <docpaul> here's the openmrsconstants file |
| 21:41:00 | <docpaul> you want to change something in it, or? |
| 21:41:00 | <Keelhaul> docpaul |
| 21:41:05 | <Keelhaul> if i wanna define my own privs |
| 21:41:08 | <Keelhaul> which i do in a module |
| 21:41:22 | <Keelhaul> i cant use the constants file to check for them |
| 21:41:28 | <Keelhaul> should i just use hard coded strings instead |
| 21:41:40 | <docpaul> is this the same thing that nri is talking about? |
| 21:41:41 | <Keelhaul> or extend OpenmrsConstants |
| 21:41:46 | <Keelhaul> i dunno |
| 21:41:52 | <docpaul> i think it might be |
| 21:42:03 | <Keelhaul> this is related to my own stuff heh |
| 21:42:08 | <nribeka> :-) |
| 21:42:11 | <Keelhaul> i think nri proposes a change to trunk |
| 21:42:17 | <nribeka> for example this one: public static final String PRIV_VIEW_OBS = "View Observations"; |
| 21:43:03 | <nribeka> if we use this, then if we select other language, then it will still be displayed as "View Observations" |
| 21:43:09 | <docpaul> ah, i see |
| 21:43:18 | <docpaul> you want localization for constants |
| 21:43:26 | <docpaul> this is a good suggestion |
| 21:43:42 | <docpaul> please bring this up to bwolfe |
| 21:43:43 | <nribeka> i'm sorry for making you confuse hahaha ... :-) |
| 21:43:49 | <nribeka> :-P |
| 21:43:58 | <docpaul> not your fault... i am dense |
| 21:44:13 | <docpaul> keel: certain there's a way to have new privs in a module |
| 21:44:20 | <Keelhaul> yes |
| 21:44:25 | <Keelhaul> it auto creates the ones you define |
| 21:44:29 | <docpaul> hard for me to imagine that you'd have to have them registered in constants |
| 21:44:39 | <Keelhaul> but i dont have constants for those, obviously |
| 21:44:44 | <docpaul> right |
| 21:45:10 | <Keelhaul> oh well for now, i'll just hard code them i guess |
| 21:45:21 | <docpaul> i think that makes the most sense given the circumstance |
| 21:45:25 | <docpaul> but i dont like that design |
| 21:45:51 | <Keelhaul> well |
| 21:45:51 | <Keelhaul> then you'll need to define symbols for every priv i guess |
| 21:45:51 | <docpaul> on our side, of course |
| 21:46:31 | <nribeka> there are many of kind of string inside openmrs :-) |
| 21:47:31 | <nribeka> and also, when i try to create a patient with a blank location i get NPE :-P |
| 21:47:58 | <Keelhaul> yea, exceptions are really annoying |
| 21:48:09 | <Keelhaul> wont even tell you which value is null |
| 21:48:25 | <Keelhaul> as an end user, i'd get pretty upset =P |
| 21:48:32 | <nribeka> haha ... that's so true |
| 21:51:32 | <docpaul> we're a work in progress... with warts. :) |
| 21:51:37 | <Keelhaul> ok sleep time for me |
| 21:51:38 | <Keelhaul> gn |
| 21:51:46 | <docpaul> so, you can either bitch... or you can bug fix. :) |
| 21:53:13 | <nribeka> haha ... i choose bug fix coz i'm not a bitch :-) |
| 21:53:20 | <docpaul> hehe |
| 21:53:56 | <nribeka> docpaul: silly question from me |
| 21:55:00 | <docpaul> nri: no such thing as a silly question. :) i welcome them... |
| 21:55:07 | <nribeka> there's ${privilegeList} -> what does this means? |
| 21:55:28 | <nribeka> i never seen this one before :( |
| 21:57:12 | <docpaul> what's unusual about it? |
| 21:57:44 | <nribeka> just never seen it before :P |
| 21:58:03 | <nribeka> eh seen it inside ant build.xml |
| 21:58:22 | <docpaul> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/branches/scheduler/web/WEB-INF/view/admin/users/privilegeList.jsp?rev=1633 |
| 21:58:24 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1iX+> (at dev.openmrs.org) |
| 21:58:33 | <nribeka> yups inside that file |
| 22:00:33 | <nribeka> i think i can learn a lot from openmrs |
| 22:00:34 | <docpaul> oh wait, are you referring to the velocity notation? |
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| 22:01:03 | <nribeka> yups ... |
| 22:01:31 | <nribeka> ah ic |
| 22:01:45 | <nribeka> is it coming from velocity? |
| 22:01:51 | <docpaul> think so |
| 22:02:13 | <nribeka> ic ... |
| 22:02:59 | <nribeka> the only thing that i've seen and work with is struts + spring + hibernate |
| 22:03:21 | <nribeka> and it's a year ago before i come here haha ... |
| 22:03:46 | <docpaul> yeah, velocity is a templating tool that allows you to refer to java objects |
| 22:03:59 | <nribeka> and interestingly, it was the same type of project with openmrs |
| 22:04:27 | <nribeka> oo ic ... sorry for the silly question :P |
| 22:04:32 | <docpaul> not silly |
| 22:07:17 | <nribeka> i think that's all the question for now ... |
| 22:07:28 | <nribeka> i will ask more question |
| 22:07:50 | <nribeka> but later :D |
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| 23:10:43 | <catullus> w00t build successful |
| 23:13:15 | <r0bby> catullus: cool what ya doin? |
| 23:13:25 | <catullus> just built openmrs for the first time =) |
| 23:16:46 | <r0bby> bah :P |
| 23:16:51 | <r0bby> building is easy. |
| 23:18:17 | <nribeka> catullus: don't listen to robby. great job catullus :) |
| 23:18:37 | <nribeka> robby: haha ... |
| 23:18:44 | <catullus> haha it actually was easier than i thought it would be |
| 23:18:53 | <catullus> only had to change a couple settings |
| 23:19:02 | <catullus> christian made it sound like it would take me weeks |
| 23:19:04 | <catullus> haha |
| 23:25:26 | <nribeka> christian? |
| 23:27:17 | <catullus> christian allen, at pih |
| 23:29:10 | <nribeka> what is pih? i'm sorry i'm lost here :) |
| 23:29:36 | <catullus> partners in health |
| 23:29:41 | <r0bby> catullus: ah |
| 23:29:42 | <r0bby> :) |
| 23:29:51 | <r0bby> catullus: just pulling your chain |
| 23:30:20 | <catullus> =) |
| 23:40:36 | <r0bby> gg |
| 23:40:37 | <r0bby> er |