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| 08:07:49 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3645]: -- openmrs report_api_refactoring * made code more readable * fixed ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3645> |
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| 08:43:46 | <bwolfe> welcome, pjovanovic |
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| 08:44:31 | <pjovanovi1> Hi, thanks |
| 08:45:03 | <bwolfe> I'm assuming gsoc brings you to our humble corner of freenode? :-) |
| 08:45:21 | <pjovanovi1> but of course :) |
| 08:45:31 | <pjovanovi1> i'm looking around your project |
| 08:45:35 | <bwolfe> have you scanned all projects up through the "o"s already?? I'm impressed |
| 08:46:01 | <pjovanovi1> I'm scanning them based on their topics |
| 08:46:26 | <pjovanovi1> very nice ideas page btw. |
| 08:47:52 | <bwolfe> ah thanks |
| 08:48:17 | <bwolfe> I feel like it needs some reorganization...does it not feel too overwhelming? |
| 08:48:40 | <bwolfe> although I suppose if its just better than the pages other projects have up, then we're fine. :-) |
| 08:49:55 | <pjovanovi1> it's fine, the more info provided the better |
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| 08:50:25 | <pjovanovi1> although i think it might give rise to some copy n paste applications |
| 08:51:47 | <bwolfe> yeah, we had a few of those last year. and personally I think thats fine for the abstract part of the app as long as the student shows that they understand what is going on in the longer text portion |
| 08:52:25 | <bwolfe> the abstract for the selected students is used on the google pages...so it should make sense and be complete |
| 08:53:41 | <kenny_> hello all...i'm a student who found you guys through the summer of code page. Some fun looking ideas you have going. |
| 08:54:46 | <bmckown> Hi and welcome, kenny_ |
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| 08:56:36 | <bwolfe> fun looking, eh kenny_ ? |
| 08:57:58 | <kenny_> both the image manipulation and drug resistance prediction caught my eye. |
| 09:00:36 | <kenny_> i also noticed mention of cohorts. Are there stats and data mining modules in the project? |
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| 09:03:08 | <bwolfe> kenny_: there are some stats stuff built in that is done on parts of data stored |
| 09:03:30 | <bwolfe> we use the word "cohort" to mean a cohort of Patients, usually |
| 09:03:53 | <bwolfe> and I don't think there is much in the way of showing stats for patients |
| 09:04:08 | <kenny_> gotcha |
| 09:06:13 | <bwolfe> kenny_: just as an fyi, the projects page lists off some projects that have been assigned already to other developers |
| 09:06:20 | <bwolfe> (the drug resistance is one of those) |
| 09:06:41 | <kenny_> i see |
| 09:08:03 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3648]: * added an example rule that queries a set of concepts <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3648> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3647]: -- atd * cleaned up some code <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3647> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3646]: api_refactoring: Location and Encounter changes <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3646> |
| 09:13:59 | <bwolfe> kenny_ / pjovanovi1 : answer me this, if you will...it has always intrigued me. with so many projects on that gsoc page, how does one tackle it? Do you go through each project and read about each page?? Do you just read the abstracts? Do you only click on names that look interesting/familiar? |
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| 09:14:55 | <kenny_> i'm working on a phd in neuroscience, so i'm specifically targeting projects in the medical/sciences field |
| 09:16:22 | <pjovanovi1> I read the list where projects were sorted by topics, and though i don't have much bio/medical background, i found bioinformatics projects interesting to check out |
| 09:16:35 | <bwolfe_openmrs> neuroscience? very cool. thats actually one of my interests as well! where are you studying? |
| 09:17:08 | <kenny_> i do drug addiction, looking at changes in neuronal activity due to chronic alcohol |
| 09:18:42 | <bwolfe_openmrs> pjovanovi1: category? makes sense, but I'm not seeing a page sorted that way. where'd you find that? |
| 09:19:02 | <bwolfe_openmrs> kenny_: and you happen to be a programmer as well? |
| 09:19:03 | <pjovanovi1> it's on genmapp, just a sec |
| 09:19:23 | <pjovanovi1> yes, i'm CS student |
| 09:19:34 | <kenny_> yep. i have a bs in cs and worked in telecommunications for a bit before going back to school |
| 09:19:45 | <pjovanovi1> this is the list: http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm |
| 09:25:53 | <bwolfe_openmrs> looks like we don't have much competition in the way of other health-care/save-the-world projects :-) |
| 09:26:45 | <pjovanovi1> guess so :) |
| 09:26:50 | <kenny_> nope, just lots of pesky python people |
| 09:27:54 | <kenny_> is this a mysql-based operation? |
| 09:28:24 | <bwolfe_openmrs> we use mysql primarily, yes |
| 09:28:44 | <bwolfe_openmrs> we use hibernate as a object-relational mapper, so we're /mostly/ database agnostic |
| 09:29:18 | <bwolfe_openmrs> unfortunately some mysql specific stuff has snuck into our database diff scripts and in one or two very specialized methods |
| 09:35:37 | <kenny_> have to go do some research. i'll be back on soon after i've perused through the list some more. There are a couple of ideas I'd like to discuss more with you all. |
| 09:36:41 | <bwolfe_openmrs> sure thing |
| 09:36:47 | <bwolfe_openmrs> I'm here all day :-) |
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| 09:36:58 | <bwolfe_openmrs> ...and half the night |
| 09:37:03 | <bwolfe_openmrs> ...and all day tomorrow... |
| 09:37:14 | <bwolfe_openmrs> heh |
| 09:38:08 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3651]: -- chica * moved files that were inadvertently deleted <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3651> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3650]: -- chica * updated atd jar <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3650> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3649]: -- atd * fixed an error merging to a table <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3649> |
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| 09:42:05 | <bwolfe_openmrs> hey there AndersG |
| 09:42:09 | <bwolfe_openmrs> welcome back :-) |
| 09:42:14 | <AndersG> hi :) |
| 09:42:32 | <AndersG> been off most instant messaging tools for months.. thought I should pop back in and have a look |
| 09:43:13 | <bwolfe_openmrs> why'd you give them up? |
| 09:43:35 | <bwolfe_openmrs> are you eligible for gsoc again this year? |
| 09:43:52 | <AndersG> i'm trying to do my school work.. writing that thesis :/ |
| 09:44:15 | <AndersG> I probably am, but I'm not going to apply, still feel I've got work to do on last years project really |
| 09:44:40 | <bwolfe_openmrs> haha, they haven't "released" you yet?? |
| 09:44:48 | <bwolfe_openmrs> I'm pretty sure your part is done |
| 09:44:54 | <bwolfe_openmrs> you did /way/ above and beyond |
| 09:45:01 | <AndersG> hehe, they have, haven't talked with Christian and Maros for a long time actually |
| 09:45:19 | <bwolfe_openmrs> the sync stuff is /very/ close to be being done |
| 09:45:26 | <AndersG> I do hope however that I'll be back sometime to do something without any pressure |
| 09:45:30 | <bwolfe_openmrs> they are using it in rwanda as a test bed right now |
| 09:45:43 | <AndersG> yeah, I saw some write-up of it from Christian a few days ago, it sounded good |
| 09:45:48 | <bwolfe_openmrs> AndersG: you're welcome anytime to help out :-) |
| 09:46:33 | <AndersG> good experience participating though, but I'd probably do things a little bit different next time |
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| 09:46:43 | <AndersG> too many things going on at the same time when I started up |
| 09:47:15 | <AndersG> wasted too much time reading articles on stuff that didn't work out, should ask questions earlier etc. |
| 09:48:19 | <AndersG> right now I'm just trying to finish up school.. but I've been trying that for some time already ;) |
| 09:48:40 | <AndersG> I'll start working in August probably, that's what my contract says at least |
| 09:49:00 | <bwolfe_openmrs> AndersG: it would be /awesome/ if you could write either a blog post on that or a wiki page on your thoughts and what you would do differently if (when) you were to do it again |
| 09:49:22 | <bwolfe_openmrs> heh, so a job is lined up? awesome! where about? |
| 09:49:52 | <AndersG> yeah, easy to get a job these days over here - though that's probably changing over the next couple of years |
| 09:50:24 | <AndersG> everything happened extremely fast.. actually I got two similar jobs, took me a week each of them, including everything. |
| 09:50:56 | <AndersG> ended up signing for Capgemini, a French-based company |
| 09:51:36 | <AndersG> consulting business, java development |
| 09:51:45 | <bwolfe_openmrs> travel involved? |
| 09:52:05 | <AndersG> nah, just for some courses initially I believe |
| 09:52:12 | <AndersG> got friends working there, and it's pretty stable |
| 09:52:35 | <AndersG> mostly work in the 10-20 biggest private companies in the country + public sector |
| 09:52:52 | <AndersG> several big projects going on, often over several years |
| 09:54:17 | <AndersG> hard choice though, have friends working for both of those companies and they're looking almost the same to me.. |
| 09:54:18 | <bwolfe_openmrs> different kind of consulting than I'm used to |
| 09:54:30 | <AndersG> the other company was Accenture btw, you probably now them.. |
| 09:54:46 | <bwolfe_openmrs> yeah, I've heard of them |
| 09:56:23 | <AndersG> all of the big companies focus on the public sector because of the fairly huge long term contracts, especially as people are expecting that the market will go down over the next couple of years.. talking about a 5 year cycle or so.. |
| 09:56:33 | <AndersG> huge -> large |
| 09:56:48 | <bwolfe_openmrs> interesting |
| 09:57:07 | <bwolfe_openmrs> so will you be staying in norway, or moving somewhere else? |
| 09:57:34 | <AndersG> I'm staying here for now at least |
| 09:57:55 | <AndersG> still hope I'll have time to take a trip over to the US during the summer though, but just for a short vacation |
| 10:01:08 | <bwolfe_openmrs> hopefully near Indy or Boston? :-) |
| 10:03:07 | <AndersG> yes, I hope I'll be able to pop by sometime in the future |
| 10:07:54 | <bwolfe_openmrs> or you could fly down to rwanda and see your handiwork there as well :-) |
| 10:10:47 | <AndersG> could've been interesting, I really need to get up to speed on the sync project again when I have time.. I'm just skimming the commit/rss-feed these days |
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| 12:38:55 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #653 (defect created): Concept sets don't work with sync <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/653> |
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| 13:37:18 | <bwolfe_openmrs> hey there Feez |
| 13:37:25 | <Feez> Hello :D |
| 13:37:45 | <bwolfe_openmrs> do you have any questions about openmrs? |
| 13:38:42 | <Feez> I am acctually doing some research about it and I'm amazed about the all the possible project outputs :) |
| 13:39:06 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #653 (defect closed): Concept sets don't work with sync <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/653#comment:1> |
| 13:39:11 | <bwolfe_openmrs> we try to keep that list pretty varied :-) |
| 13:40:24 | <Feez> I've never been able to find a way to join my computer science skills with my interest in the medical area so I think it would be a great start :-) |
| 13:41:49 | <bwolfe_openmrs> this would be one way, yes. :-) |
| 13:42:05 | <bwolfe_openmrs> what kind of interest do you have in the medical arena? |
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| 13:45:42 | <Feez> well at a time I was thinking of developing a wiki-like application or website so people could freely have a go and type their symptoms and find the possible disease they have and possible cures. Would never be able to replace a doctor (which was not the goal) but could help people to easily find solutions to their problems. I realized this when I saw the large amount of people trying to get a diagnosis on medical forums just by telling their symptoms. |
| 13:46:44 | <Keelhaul> the pharm industry would hate you for that! |
| 13:50:14 | <bwolfe_openmrs> doesn't webmd have something similar? |
| 13:50:28 | <bwolfe_openmrs> except not a wiki...more of a doctor focused content creation? |
| 13:51:17 | <Feez> Keelhaul: oopsy (a), but well it is for the sake of people not industries ;). However the application could also have had a link on possible medicines and different pharm industries . However The doctor would still be in charge of that (Self medication isn't so much the answer) |
| 13:52:00 | <Keelhaul> so it wouldnt be a wiki where anyone can write? |
| 13:53:10 | <Feez> well as seen with wikipedia some articles needs to be restricted to "trusted" users |
| 13:53:24 | <Feez> but It was an idea I had at a time |
| 13:53:59 | <Keelhaul> well i guess it would save some poeple money |
| 13:54:16 | <Keelhaul> because going to see a doctor to tell you the same stuff will cost you what, a few hundred bucks? |
| 13:55:51 | <Feez> depends of the health care system you have but yes. It could be a benefit for many people, at least not too worry too much while waiting to get an appointment with a doctor |
| 13:57:00 | <Keelhaul> we're pretty spoiled here when it comes to that |
| 13:57:08 | <Keelhaul> go see a doctor, give thme your insurance card |
| 13:57:18 | <Keelhaul> and you dont even get to see the bill |
| 13:58:14 | <Feez> Keelhaul: where do you come from? |
| 13:58:25 | <Keelhaul> germany |
| 14:00:40 | <Feez> Yes the health care system is quite straight forward in Europe :-) |
| 14:03:06 | <Keelhaul> where are you from |
| 14:03:15 | <Keelhaul> yea it is expensive though |
| 14:03:19 | <Feez> From france but I do my studies in the UK |
| 14:03:28 | <Keelhaul> they had to reform it a bit a few years ago |
| 14:03:29 | <Keelhaul> ah |
| 14:04:57 | <Feez> even in the UK i find it really good :) |
| 14:08:51 | <Feez> bwolfe_openmrs: yes realised while getting some information and reading about the subject I realised that Webmd had already done something similar. |
| 14:14:19 | <bwolfe_openmrs> Feez: if only you had been a few years earlier...you could have started webmd! :-) |
| 14:14:39 | <Feez> bwolfe_openmrs: I would have loved to :D |
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| 16:24:01 | <OpenMRSBot> Hey there Ben! |
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| 20:13:35 | <bwolfe> hey there masonf |
| 20:13:39 | <bwolfe> welcome |
| 20:14:50 | <masonf> thankyou. You must be ben wolfe a mentor for SoC? |
| 20:16:00 | <bwolfe> excellent deduction there watson! :-) |
| 20:16:07 | <bwolfe> I am |
| 20:16:28 | <bwolfe> and I'm guessing you're moocowmason? |
| 20:16:58 | <masonf> I am interested but still waivering whether it is what I would like to do with my summer. |
| 20:17:48 | <bwolfe> hmm...what are you other options? |
| 20:20:04 | <masonf> I have worked for a small ISP for the past four years aswell as for my fathers landscaping company. Its nice to balance the office work with working outside and if I did SoC I would be working on the project to much to landscape much. |
| 20:20:36 | <bwolfe> there would probably be weekend stuff |
| 20:20:49 | <masonf> Your looking for 40 hrs/week or more correct? |
| 20:20:53 | <bwolfe> err weekend stuff you could do |
| 20:21:17 | <bwolfe> 40 hrs a week is whats expected, yeah |
| 20:21:36 | <bwolfe> its meant to be a full time job |
| 20:22:38 | <masonf> Its sounding like to good of a situation to pass up. Google a great company. Helping people across the world AND a paycheck! |
| 20:23:06 | <bwolfe> I get what you're saying though. I enjoy doing projects around the house in the "real world"...its nice not being virtual all the time |
| 20:24:11 | <bwolfe> well, if you're wanting something rewarding, this is it! :-) |
| 20:25:00 | <masonf> Oh I know. Absolutly torn. |
| 20:25:51 | <masonf> I building eclipse now and I am definitly gonna poke around the code a bit in the next couple of days. |
| 20:28:56 | <masonf> This is in the top three projects if I do decide to do it. All my courses at school have been taught in java and I feel like I have a good background in database backed webapps. |
| 20:29:48 | <masonf> have you had many student applications/interest yet? |
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| 20:34:47 | <bwolfe> masonf: we've had about as much interest as I expected |
| 20:35:04 | <bwolfe> some people have stopped by here...some are still lurking |
| 20:35:20 | <bwolfe> applications don't "open" until next week...which is probably when most students will start applying |
| 20:35:31 | <bwolfe> because we programmers are inherently lazy... |
| 20:36:32 | <masonf> heh, any people taken interest in specific projects? |
| 20:38:48 | <masonf> I am most intersted in adding LDAP auth and "Move Tribe to a Person Attribute" |
| 20:38:49 | <bwolfe> not really yet |
| 20:40:16 | <bwolfe> I'm partial to those myself |
| 20:43:24 | <masonf> they seem very doable. In almost every programming project I have ever undertaken things take so much longer than I plan because something or another gets in the way. |
| 20:48:20 | <bwolfe> life tends to do that |
| 20:50:14 | <masonf> and the move to tribe looks like it has lots of little pieces which would help with planning |
| 20:53:47 | <bwolfe> it has a few different pieces, yes |
| 20:53:52 | <bwolfe> but they all do really :-) |
| 20:54:03 | <bwolfe> they just aren't all listed out like that project has them already... :-P |
| 20:54:50 | <bwolfe> I'm heading out |
| 20:54:59 | <masonf> nice to talk to you |
| 20:55:36 | <bwolfe> I'll be on tomorrow. let me know if you have any questions |
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| 21:02:09 | <docpaul> hi all! |
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| 21:24:02 | <docpaul> so what's up? btw, what's your first name? |
| 21:24:23 | <cancer> my name is Sri Prasanna |
| 21:24:53 | <docpaul> hi sri |
| 21:24:58 | <cancer> i would like to discuss about this proj Digital Image Acquisition, Manipulation, and Viewing Tools |
| 21:25:12 | <docpaul> ok... where are you going to school sri? |
| 21:25:24 | <cancer> i just wanna know what type of image files u view |
| 21:25:48 | <docpaul> like what file type? |
| 21:26:11 | <cancer> im doing my undergrad in College of Engineering, Anna University, chennai, india |
| 21:26:19 | <docpaul> gotcha |
| 21:26:21 | <cancer> like bmp jpeg png etc |
| 21:26:38 | <cancer> or do u ve any separate file format for ur company? |
| 21:26:46 | <docpaul> ideally we would be able to handle multiple types, but we'd start off with png most likely |
| 21:26:51 | <docpaul> we're not a company |
| 21:27:16 | <cancer> oh... then its cool... |
| 21:27:17 | <docpaul> we're a community of people who want to help others.. :) |
| 21:27:47 | <cancer> thats awesome |
| 21:28:08 | <cancer> would you like to hear my ideas on that proj? |
| 21:28:13 | <docpaul> absolutely! |
| 21:28:45 | <cancer> do doctors share patients xrays scans online??? |
| 21:29:00 | <cancer> like realtime collaboration and discussion |
| 21:29:20 | <docpaul> they would store them in an openmrs installation... and yes, they'd use a web browser to view them for collab and discussion |
| 21:30:26 | <cancer> ok i wanna put up my idea this way... if u and me are doctors then we are discussing about a patient |
| 21:31:26 | <cancer> we r looking at his x ray with some tool im gonna create (if offered :))... then i want u to point out something like "where is the hole " |
| 21:32:05 | <cancer> then u can just mark on the photo whic is being viwed and it displays in my system |
| 21:32:18 | <docpaul> i see |
| 21:33:37 | <cancer> so this would be useful when doctors are discussing about some complicated issues... like an american doc wants to talk with a doc in india so they both just sit in front of computer and discuss |
| 21:33:46 | <cancer> this will save time |
| 21:34:46 | <cancer> would u like this implementation on ur proj Digital Image Acquisition, Manipulation, and Viewing Tools? |
| 21:35:33 | <cancer> simply addition of collaborative tool that allows two doctors in different parts to the world to do analysis, interpretation and diagnosis - realtime - of medical images |
| 21:36:11 | <cancer> what is your opinion docpaul? |
| 21:36:17 | <docpaul> welp, most places that use openmrs have resource constraints |
| 21:36:23 | <docpaul> ie, most dont have high speed internet, etc. |
| 21:36:40 | <docpaul> so, i'm not certain that your proposal is of the highest priority |
| 21:36:55 | <docpaul> most are lucky to have computers. :) |
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| 21:37:36 | <cancer> oh thats ok |
| 21:37:54 | <docpaul> heya bud |
| 21:38:48 | <cancer> ok what would be your expectations for that proj(collaborative tool that allows two doctors in different parts to the world to do analysis, interpretation and diagnosis - realtime - of medical images.)? |
| 21:39:03 | <cancer> sorry Digital Image Acquisition, Manipulation, and Viewing Tools |
| 21:39:29 | <burke> docpaul: you talkin' to me? |
| 21:39:38 | <docpaul> no, i think the workflow is simpler than what you're imagining |
| 21:39:44 | <docpaul> burke: of course! |
| 21:40:34 | <docpaul> cancer: we simply need software that allows one to capture images, store them in openmrs, and then annotate them with extra information that represents the radiologist's interpretation |
| 21:54:51 | <cancer> oh that can be done easily docpaul... |
| 21:57:32 | <docpaul> cool, just talked with karl fogel burke |
| 21:57:41 | <docpaul> i've got a phone call set with him on friday |
| 21:57:54 | <burke> cule. |
| 21:58:02 | <burke> thinking durban? |
| 21:58:16 | <docpaul> of course... but also thinking of just general community involvement |
| 22:00:51 | <cancer> docpaul: what do u mean by capture images?? like capturing from a scanner |
| 22:01:35 | <docpaul> or a camera... |
| 22:02:21 | <cancer> oh thats fine |
| 22:02:45 | <cancer> and uploads to openmrs server??? right |
| 22:10:57 | <burke> cancer: there are a couple parts to the visual data acquisition that we could use... |
| 22:11:47 | <burke> we store the majority of data in the system (height, blood pressure, weight, etc.) as discrete, coded data call "obs" (for observations) |
| 22:12:36 | <burke> we have a table for what we call "complex obs" (complex observations) designed to handle references to documents, images, binary files, etc. |
| 22:12:37 | <cancer> ok then that can be sorted out and can be listed appropriately in the viewer for some extra info |
| 22:13:56 | <burke> we could make one student project be implementing the complex observations within the API (needs some coding to be realized) |
| 22:14:40 | <burke> then there are other projects that could feed those complex observations (like documents, images, etc) into the complex_obs table once it's ready to receive data |
| 22:15:37 | <cancer> im confused a little... |
| 22:15:49 | <cancer> could u please make it clear |
| 22:15:55 | <burke> there are also potential projects in rendering, manipulating, or otherwise viewing those data (like x-ray viewers, document viewers, etc.) that could likely take the form of a mashup of other open-source toolings fit to work with OpenMRS |
| 22:16:25 | <burke> cancer: sure. sorry. i'll stop. ask your questions. :) |
| 22:17:58 | <cancer> i was talking to docpaul abt the proj in image rendereing and manipulation... i will put it in my words and u correct if anything is wrong |
| 22:19:30 | <cancer> capturing images from some media like cameras... uploading to ur servers... fetching image from servers.. viewing it.. |
| 22:21:14 | <burke> back in just a minute... |
| 22:21:34 | <cancer> enhancements are zooming, edge detection, multiple images viewing side by side changing the window size with option like altering image acc to window size or leaving the image resizing |
| 22:23:23 | <cancer> ok i will wait |
| 22:26:13 | <burke> ok. thanks. so, you're interested more in the image rendering aspect? that is -- for example -- showing an x-ray image to a doctor and letting them manipulate the image? |
| 22:27:02 | <cancer> yeah absolutely... and a tool that allows two doctors in different parts to the world to do analysis, interpretation and diagnosis - realtime - of medical images |
| 22:27:36 | <cancer> but docpaul said the connection would be bit slow among people using openmrs |
| 22:28:08 | <burke> well, the realtime telemedicine stuff sounds awfully cool, but paul is correct, it doesn't work so well with the internet connections we have to work with |
| 22:28:44 | <burke> the truth is that often people are sleeping in the US while people are working in Africa and vice versa |
| 22:29:09 | <burke> so, an asynchronous system can work just as well |
| 22:29:50 | <burke> plus, we want to get these data into OpenMRS so they can be related to all of the other patient information |
| 22:30:05 | <cancer> wat about this if one person wants to share a pics and selects a pic from server the other person downloads the same from server not from the other person... this could be done and doesnt need any extra speed |
| 22:30:39 | <cancer> oh thats a true fact time sync |
| 22:32:08 | <burke> yes. that's closer to what we'd like. that way, when the data are uploaded to the OpenMRS server, they can be linked to the existing patient information (not just name, birthdate, and the like...but last CD4 count or last blood pressure)...giving the doctor looking at the image a much more complete "picture" |
| 22:33:38 | <cancer> oh if doc wants to see a image of a patient his records can be viewed if doc wishes |
| 22:34:07 | <burke> another common scenario would be (1) clinic takes a picture of something and uploads it to a server, (2) a doctor somewhere else pulls the image off a queue, interprets it, and enters a brief text comment, then (3) the original clinic receives the text comment -- for example: "This patient has tuberculosis!" |
| 22:34:45 | <cancer> oh thats fine thats fine |
| 22:35:06 | <cancer> ok will collect some more infos and come back with more ideas |
| 22:35:13 | <cancer> i will be back |
| 22:35:15 | <burke> right now, all OpenMRS data are numbers, dates, codes, and brief text. No images stored. We hope to change that this summer. |
| 22:35:36 | <burke> We will need both the ability to store the images and the ability to view images. Easily at least two GSoC projects. |
| 22:35:57 | <burke> cancer, thanks for your interest. |
| 22:36:22 | <burke> i've got to get some sleep. I'll be around later ... as will other OpenMRS geeks. Cheers! |
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